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08-03-2014, 07:11 PM #1
questions about some AI's and gyno
I'm on my 3rd week of Test 300. I never had a problem with Gyno ever on any of my cycles in the past (8 cycles) 2 days ago I notice a lump above my left nipple (round and pointed at the tip but not under the nipple like i read in the threads) I don't have any AI's but SERM Clomid 50mg (Which wouldn't be effective gyno onset) I don't have access to Letrozole . below is a list of products I can get but don't know much about. Can a member with knowledge or experience with any these products explain which 1 would be best to go with.
ARIMIDEX CAPSULES
AROMADEX 100 25mg/tab
CLENBUTEROL 40mcg
PROVIRON TABS 25mg
Liothyronine sodium 50mcg
ANAVAR (Oxandrolone) 5mg
PROVIDEX 50mg
Also what would be a good dosage?
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08-03-2014, 08:25 PM #2RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
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You should have a sensitive E2 analysis and make an appointment with a doctor in order to be properly diagnosed. AIs are meant to be taken the entire cycle not when gyno symptoms appear. You should start taking 25mg of dex EOD. The only products you can use for gyno treatment are either nolvadex or raloxifene. It would be in your best interest to read the thread attached below.
Do I have Gynecomastia? If you're asking this question, read this thread.
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08-03-2014, 09:20 PM #3
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Nothing you have listed is what you want to look at. The 2 above posts are right on the money.
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08-04-2014, 05:06 PM #5
OK! I have an appointment set for next Wednesday to see the doctor and also stopped the cycle until this matter is cleared up.There are conflicts in the threads that I have been reading. In Numbere link (Thanks for providing) Do I have Gynecomastia? If you're asking this question, read this thread.. states that SERM's are good for reversal. on the other hand Bino's thread it states the opposite that SERM's will do no good for a reversal. Do I have Gynecomastia? If you're asking this question, read this thread.. What can is sure?
Also, is it best to start clomid at 25-50mg until i figure out what I need?
Thanks guys and please be patient!
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08-04-2014, 07:18 PM #6RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
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Bino's gyno thread is outdated. Follow austinite's advise, as it is spot on. The test 300 you are taking is is a blend correct? What dosage are you taking? You are going to have to take some time off before PCT to let the exogenous test clear from your system. You need both clomid and nolva for a proper PCT. You should order nolva for PCT and ralox for the gyno from are site sponsor ar-r . That way you have everything needed to do things correctly. During the first week of PCT you should front load the clomid, so your dose should be 75-100mg, then taper down to 50mg for the remaining 3 weeks.
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08-05-2014, 04:59 PM #7
Numbere I did get Nova 20mg. I'm ordering ralox and Letrozole tomorrow. However, should I wait the 14 days before starting the Nova, and if so, what dosage?
2) as far as Ralox goes at what dosage and should i continue Nova at the same time Ralox/ is it necessary to run both SERM's at the same time? Threads say no.
3) when gyno is reverse and I go back, should I run Letrozole (as an AI) with the Test E? When should I start the Letrozole and at what dosage?
As far as the test E, it is a blend.
Thanks!
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08-05-2014, 07:06 PM #8RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
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Letro is not needed for your situation. I don't know how long you should wait until beginning PCT because you never answered my question from my previous post. Austinite's gyno thread explains what dosages of ralox to use. Ralox can be used on cycle and during PCT. You should only use letro as an AI if dex will not keep E2 within range. You will only know this by using dex on cycle and having blood work pre then mid cycle.
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08-06-2014, 06:28 PM #9
yes, test 300 is a blend. 2ml every 5 days. I read Austinite thread as well as the other ones she provided. order is in raloxifene and Letz (just in case I need the AI) but I'm also going to wait to see what the doctors says first before doing any of it. i'll be seeing the Doctor Wednesday and I'' keep thread updated as the process goes on. Thanks Numbere, jimmy and kelkel
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08-07-2014, 06:38 PM #10
Numbere when you refer the word Dex are you referring to nolvadex or Arimdex? I was able to see the doctor today instead of Wednesday. she order a prescription for ultra sound what I will take early next week & she told me that it might be inflammation but wants to make sure. It's weird because the lump started to shrink about 1/3rd of its original size in the last 2 days but i'm still not satisfied.
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08-08-2014, 07:08 AM #11RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
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When I say dex I'm referring to arimidex . Thats great that you're seeing a doctor. A lot of guys spend hundreds of dollars on products but fall short on BW and doctors visits when things go wrong.
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08-08-2014, 04:27 PM #12
Thanks Numbere. just 1 more question is it really necessary to take the 3 dex, nova and the ralo?
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08-08-2014, 04:44 PM #13RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
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I'm not exactly sure what you are asking. If you're referring to treating gyno on cycle then the protocol is to begin taking either ralox or nolva and increase your AI dosage. Ralox is preferred over nolva and the AI dosage should be increased because the original dosage was not enough to control E2. If you're referring to treating gyno through PCT then the AI should discontinued when beginning administration of nolva and clomid. You can continue using ralox through PCT or stop and resume after PCT is finished, the decision is yours.
Last edited by numbere; 08-08-2014 at 07:52 PM. Reason: typo
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08-08-2014, 06:53 PM #14
Got it!....Thanks again Numbere!
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08-24-2014, 04:14 PM #15
OK have results back. doc said its nothing cancerous and that its more than likely inflammation and if I want to do a biopsy in which I said no. With nova and ralox its pretty much under control. When running test @ 500mg a week what would be the best thing to take to insure this won't happen again? at what dosage and how often?
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08-26-2014, 03:36 PM #16
bump!
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08-27-2014, 06:24 AM #18
raloxifene works good. I got a lump above my nips for the 1st time not long ago and after about 1 week of 60 mg raloxifene ED they were gone.
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08-27-2014, 06:48 PM #19
Thanks again numbere! lovbts like I said earlier , I done 8 cycles in the past and its my 1st lump as well. I think my bf is to high but now working on that before this next cycle. I'm glad things workout for you and its reversed. I been doing ralox too and it works great. Right now I want to have all the necessaries to prevent this happening again.Thanks again guys!
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