real or fake?

**fireblade84** · 11-15-2006, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

where are the boxes and inserts??? Why has your source got old stock??? These are questions I would want answered if i was you.

my source had to stop for a moment because he has a big accident.

**CYP400** · 11-15-2006, 05:07 PM

yes its green with the initials.

this is also from the labs own site:

TOPS
All *Edited* multidose vials have plastic flip-off caps. Beginning in May, 2005, most newly produced multidose vials are using a greater variety of colours. Individual products are assigned their own cap colour and have their name embossed on the cap along with the initials "**". See the example. The older, non-specifically labeled red, green and white caps are expected to remain in circulation for certain products.

RUBBER SEALS
Beginning with production in March 2005, all *Edited* multidose vials are being made with green rubber seals, instead of gray. The seals are embossed with the initials "**" at four points around the edge and have a dragon stamped in the center. See the example. Older products with gray rubber seals are expected to remain in circulation until approxiimately August, 2005.

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 11-15-2006, 05:09 PM

OK....thanks CYP.... that may explain the different top & the grey stopper.
being that his are older than that. 01 2005 mfr date

**fireblade84** · 11-15-2006, 05:16 PM

i have a big doubt for my deca

***perfectbeast2001*** · 11-15-2006, 05:18 PM

just get your money back bro. plenty of good sources out there.

**powerbodybuilder** · 11-15-2006, 05:38 PM

Deca for sure FAKE

**powerbodybuilder** · 11-15-2006, 05:39 PM

So far I think exp 2008 are out for Normas.

**fireblade84** · 11-15-2006, 05:43 PM

i m agree with u, and the shelf life is 24 month....they are fake...

**fireblade84** · 11-16-2006, 02:24 AM

hereis the mail of norma:

De : NORMA HELLAS *Edited*
Envoyé : jeudi 16 novembre 2006 06:37:42
À : " *Edited*
Objet : Re: confirmation

| | | Boîte de réception

Dear Sir,

According to our record the lot number and the expiration date that you refer in your email are not valid.

Thank you for your email

Bests Regards

Norma Hellas S.A.

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: *Edited*
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 2:22 AM
Subject: confirmation

Hello. I have bought some nandrolone and would I want to have the
informative one on the medicine and on the possible probabilities to
have bought a counterfeit medicine, as can I recognize it? the code of
little bottle is L 0502004 - E 02 2010. thanks

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**Carlos_E** · 11-16-2006, 07:17 AM

fireblade84m, Do not post email addresses on the board.

**fireblade84** · 11-16-2006, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

fireblade84m, Do not post email addresses on the board.

soory sorry

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 11-16-2006, 07:52 AM

now you KNOW they are fake....hopefully your source makes good somehow. personally, I would just get my money & go elsewhere. fake deca . Older test... not the best situation if u ask me. good luck man. hope we helped.

**powerbodybuilder** · 11-16-2006, 10:03 AM

If your source is selling these fake normas get a new one.

**Rider** · 11-16-2006, 11:34 AM

Deca is fake ,sorry for your loss buddy...

**Jon0489** · 11-17-2006, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by fireblade84

yes, u r right, there is a tiny r, but it's only for the new vials, i have the older.

Hey, I can help you to notice the minor differences in yours and mine, Yours, the Name norma has no r after it, the label only has a 3 mm size gap betem the 2 ends-yours is very large, logo -the iprinting of the numbers on the lables do not toucoh the blue square, they are on end of the label aslmost oppoite the logo, the label on yours isnt the same, the real one it is shiny, unstained fron oil, and has a hidden underlying halogram throughout it

**fireblade84** · 12-04-2006, 03:27 AM

there's new one , can u tell me if looks good?thanks.

it's not the new vials. the numbers looks good this time!

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 12-04-2006, 05:13 AM

same cap as before - I say fake AGAIN!!!!

**fireblade84** · 12-04-2006, 06:49 AM

yes, but the old vials seems to be like that.wrong?

**judge_dread** · 12-04-2006, 07:12 AM

hmmm

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 12-04-2006, 07:45 AM

i cant be 100% sure fireblade....but I'm pretty sure that cap is wrong......even on the "older" vials. michaelCC & perfectbeast may know exactly.

**fireblade84** · 12-04-2006, 07:51 AM

ok thanks bro

**fireblade84** · 12-04-2006, 10:35 AM

noboby can helps me?

***perfectbeast2001*** · 12-04-2006, 12:04 PM

the label should not go right round the bottle. is there a gap?? if so are the edges rounded? can you turn the cap easily with your fingers? Does the pharmacy sticker show any hidden marks under a UV light? do the boxes have there paper info inserts? Peel off the label on the bottle what is the stamp like beneath? does it scratch off with a fingernail or has it already come off on the label????
the printing of the lot no. ect looks very dodgy, it should be solid and clear yours is fuzzy.

**Booz** · 12-04-2006, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by fireblade84

i'll tell u that after my first shot, but i trust in my friend...thanks guys!

how can you tell us after your 1st shot??
it takes at least 4-5 weeks for you to see much in the way of gains from both theses compounds......
also whats to say that your friend aint selling you bunk gear,all they are after is a quick buck mate.....................

**powerbodybuilder** · 12-04-2006, 02:01 PM

Looks fake to me.

**fireblade84** · 12-04-2006, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

the label should not go right round the bottle. is there a gap?? if so are the edges rounded? can you turn the cap easily with your fingers? Does the pharmacy sticker show any hidden marks under a UV light? do the boxes have there paper info inserts? Peel off the label on the bottle what is the stamp like beneath? does it scratch off with a fingernail or has it already come off on the label????
the printing of the lot no. ect looks very dodgy, it should be solid and clear yours is fuzzy.

i don't unserstant all tour questions, i m french and my english is bad.
i can't turn the gap easily, it's very hard.i don't have uv light!the boxes have there paper info,but i m just see this:

the vial are not the same, the nivel is not good, i m tired of this shit

**powerbodybuilder** · 12-04-2006, 03:23 PM

Sorry for your loss.

***perfectbeast2001*** · 12-04-2006, 04:08 PM

looking at the levels in those vials I would be getting a refund. These are VERY carefully produced and regulated and do not get sent out like that. That added to the suspect looking print on the boxes = fake IMO

**fireblade84** · 12-04-2006, 04:10 PM

for two times...fu**...

**foozlernuttz** · 12-04-2006, 04:41 PM

so is the test real??

**fireblade84** · 12-04-2006, 06:11 PM

yes the test real...i can't find some deca ...

**Brian** · 12-06-2006, 10:12 PM

all stoppers should have green rubber with 4 symbols of the dragon on it...

**CYP400** · 12-06-2006, 11:29 PM

yes but still some 2005 batches are left,not very much though,it says it on their website.

**cfiler** · 12-07-2006, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by fireblade84

i don't unserstant all tour questions, i m french and my english is bad.
i can't turn the gap easily, it's very hard.i don't have uv light!the boxes have there paper info,but i m just see this:

the vial are not the same, the nivel is not good, i m tired of this shit

Those are fake.

**SnaX** · 12-07-2006, 02:43 AM

this is where you check out the LAB forum. JK

Sorry for your loss.

**cfiler** · 12-07-2006, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by SnaX

this is where you check out the LAB forum. JK

Sorry for your loss.

And stop ordering from that source. He obviously screwed you afew times. Get your money back, and kick him in the balls.

**Johner** · 12-11-2006, 10:09 AM

deca is fake....no hologram on the label and the imprint looks very cheap

**axemurderer187** · 12-13-2006, 09:53 AM

that deca looks fake bro

no hologram on label and expires in 2010????? I just got some fresh deca with new label and my exp date is in 08'

just my .02$

**snow_boy** · 12-24-2006, 02:00 PM

i'm all the way in canada and ya dude those are fake!!! no hologram and wuts with the batch and exp date??? my new ones hologram and all expire early 08.