High Rep Insanity

[DeusInvictus]

I usually keep it low in the reps 6-8 but recently I've just been going crazy with the high reps and its shocking my body-Heres the latest....

315- 30x
315-25x
315-25x
315-20x

1 min. rest + high reps = crazy pump and no walking

[*Narkissos*]

I usually keep it low in the reps 6-8 but recently I've just been going crazy with the high reps and its shocking my body-Heres the latest....

315- 30x
315-25x
315-25x
315-20x

1 min. rest + high reps = crazy pump and no walking

On what exercise?

Squats?

[boostedevo8]

[Jason865]

Very high reps ( 30+) are great once and a while. I use to do them once a month for each muscle group when I was big.

[spywizard]

if you can 30 i would suggest you should increase the weight, i do 20's and think the additional reps pose a risk of injury..

Good luck..

[Doc.Sust]

if you are a powerlifter, there is no reason to do more that 5- 10 reps ( i say tick closer to 5 reps) for a core exercise using multiple sets, reps of 30 really wont give you size or strength, just going to burn your cns out and increase your endurance

[DeusInvictus]

In reply to those who think high reps are no good...
Your partially right. They are not the best for size or strength but every once in awhile taking a break from the heavy weights and giving your joints a break isnt a bad idea. because when you can hit 500 for 6-8 it is alot harder on the body then 315.
they are not the best and I normally dont do them but....
they are not "no good" just not the best.

[quarry206]

first off what do you use that for .. squat, bench deadlift???????

second.. your joints might feel more more of a pounding from 30 than 6-8.. nomatter what you are doing to your joints the difference between 315 and 500 is not so much that adding 20 reps to a set makes it less of a stress on your joints...

315 is still alot of weight to throw up and down on your joints 30times with one min rest over and over

[Doc.Sust]

In reply to those who think high reps are no good...
Your partially right. They are not the best for size or strength but every once in awhile taking a break from the heavy weights and giving your joints a break isnt a bad idea. because when you can hit 500 for 6-8 it is alot harder on the body then 315.
they are not the best and I normally dont do them but....
they are not "no good" just not the best.

hey to each there own, but htis is not for me,when i lighen things up i do lighter weights for many multiple sets instead of one or 2 sts of 30 reps

[RJstrong]

... that's definitely not powerlifting!!! maybe he just mistakenly placed this thread in the wrong forum. if you can hit more then 3 reps... you need to put some more weight on the bar...

[IBdmfkr]

Good form of cardio, does nothing to promote new muscle growth..
Congratulations you just wasted a ton of energy.

[Columbus]

so what is your opinion IB - low reps only to promote mass and growth? 6-8 range?

[IBdmfkr]

It's about stressing the body and the nervous system, causing it to retaliate with growth, there is no set rep range. You can simply play with the rest time between sets to induce more stress on the body, it doesn't have to be the weight necessarily although the weight has to be enough to damage the muscle. It's complicated.

Building muscle is merely a reaction from the body when you impose a threat upon, it's a defense mechanism.. that's why it's funny to see people get so technical with the reps/sets etc when it's really like diet a very simple process that ppl quite simply over complicate and over-do the majority of the time. Ppl have been bodybuildering for decades, nothing has changed diet/training/or drug-wise except for the use of HGH and other peptides.

On another note, something that isn't brought up very often is genetics. I feel quite simply ppl don't want to hurt people's feelings or they want to try and support everyone that shows dedication to this sport when in reality the vast majority of people just aren't cut out to have great bodies. It doesn't matter how many drugs they take, how they train or how they eat they will never have a symmetrical/nice looking body. Not saying they shouldn't live a healthy lifestyle or stay in the gym and do the best with what God gave them but they simply will never have the body that is envisioned in their mind, and sadly they will keep taking huge amounts of drugs to achieve something that doesn't exist for them.

[Uconish]

It's about stressing the body and the nervous system, causing it to retaliate with growth, there is no set rep range. You can simply play with the rest time between sets to induce more stress on the body, it doesn't have to be the weight necessarily although the weight has to be enough to damage the muscle. It's complicated.

Building muscle is merely a reaction from the body when you impose a threat upon, it's a defense mechanism.. that's why it's funny to see people get so technical with the reps/sets etc when it's really like diet a very simple process that ppl quite simply over complicate and over-do the majority of the time. Ppl have been bodybuildering for decades, nothing has changed diet/training/or drug-wise except for the use of HGH and other peptides.

On another note, something that isn't brought up very often is genetics. I feel quite simply ppl don't want to hurt people's feelings or they want to try and support everyone that shows dedication to this sport when in reality the vast majority of people just aren't cut out to have great bodies. It doesn't matter how many drugs they take, how they train or how they eat they will never have a symmetrical/nice looking body. Not saying they shouldn't live a healthy lifestyle or stay in the gym and do the best with what God gave them but they simply will never have the body that is envisioned in their mind, and sadly they will keep taking huge amounts of drugs to achieve something that doesn't exist for them.

The last part is the truest and most honest post ive ever read on here, and i can correlate it to what goes on at my local gym.

[DeusInvictus]

genetics play a crazy part in it all.... I know people who train and get no where. even for my self I struggle sometimes with injuries in my upperbody and I am much slower to make gains there, then with my lower body. I once had to stop lifting for over 4 months; when I returned I could still hit 405 for 10 on squats, but only 225 for ten on bench which is far less impressive.

[DeusInvictus]

IB you got a point.... but it is not a waste of energy. there are a host of benfits to high rep workouts and when your body hits a wall changing things up for a week or so isnt such a horrible waste of time.

[Doc.Sust]

Good form of cardio, does nothing to promote new muscle growth..
Congratulations you just wasted a ton of energy.

agree and than some,
hypertrophy, sets of 8- 15 reps
strength, 1 to 5 reps

sets are going to vary depending on ones GPP and over all work capacity, especially with the core lifts , i wouldnt go over 5- 8 reps myself

[Doc.Sust]

IB you got a point.... but it is not a waste of energy. there are a host of benfits to high rep workouts and when your body hits a wall changing things up for a week or so isnt such a horrible waste of time.

i agree , but not the kind of volume and reps you are using, it is way to excessive,.

[RJstrong]

IB you got a point.... but it is not a waste of energy. there are a host of benfits to high rep workouts and when your body hits a wall changing things up for a week or so isnt such a horrible waste of time.

IMO no exercise is a wast of time... but come on man this is a powerlifting forum. you aren't going to receive a slap on the back for high reps around here. however, if you have hit a wall in your training i can think of a few things that may better serve you as a powerlifter... box squats, front squats, zercher squats, belt squats, incorporating bands and chains or use both... you just have to get creative and be willing to try new things. take a look at an example of a typical speed day workout for me on the squat rack...

box squats with moderate band tension
10 sets of 3 reps at 50-65% of my max

very simple and its a great way to change things up... i keep my reps low and sets high... if you keep a good pace this is challenging besides being a bit more beneficial IMO for powerlifting. keep in mind this is only one example of a speed day. i hope this helps... this is by no means a flame... i just figured if you're interested in powerlifting it's time to start training like a powerlifter.

[DeusInvictus]

LOL... I appreciate all the heads up guys, I really do. But the reason I have been posting these insane workouts is because they are INSANE. I know they are out of wack that is why I put them up here. I normally keep the reps low, for power lifting(well for power lifting kinda high- 6-8 reps) but Everybody knows that is what powerlifters do, nothing interesting there. I just tried this for about a week and it was crazy I was seeing if anybody had ever gone that high in reps. my body pooped its pants when I did thirty reps. I'm not looking for a pat on the back... nor M I looking for you guys to agree with me. I just thought it was was different and since nobody else give a pump tech about squating I figured I'd talk to you guys about it. I cant exactly call up the girlfriend and say " hey honey I did really high reps at the gym today and the pump was real fun" and expect her to understand. Its like my dog trying to understand why its so funny when I fart on its head.

[RJstrong]

Bro... you're acting like this high rep squat routine is so profound... it's not! and as stated previously as far as powerlifting goes it is a waste of time.

[Archetype]

Yea i agree with Deus after a while you just have to do something different to shock the body then you get back into your regular routine, its always a good idea to keep your body guessing. Impressive squat routine Deus I dont know neone else that can do such heavy weight for that many reps.

[RJstrong]

Yea i agree with Deus after a while you just have to do something different to shock the body then you get back into your regular routine, its always a good idea to keep your body guessing. Impressive squat routine Deus I dont know neone else that can do such heavy weight for that many reps.

finally the pat on the back he was looking for!

[IBdmfkr]

goodluck with that.

[Fallen_Angel]

if you are a powerlifter, there is no reason to do more that 5- 10 reps ( i say tick closer to 5 reps) for a core exercise using multiple sets, reps of 30 really wont give you size or strength, just going to burn your cns out and increase your endurance

Doc and RJ, I know you guys go by the book when it comes to preparing for a competition, and aside from a few minor peices of philosophy, I think we agree on how to approach meet day. I disagree with yuor thoughts on high reps having no place in powerlifting. After the big meet of each year, and after a couple weeks rest, I like to do high reps. I don't do high reps everyday. I mix them in on some workouts. I find that it does two things for me:
1) I develop more mass and can turn that muscle tissue into pounds on the the Big Three

2)By the time I start preparing for the next meet, I have great muscular enduatnce and my workouts are intense from the beginning of my cycle to the end.

[Doc.Sust]

goodluck with that.

this is
what happens after a set of thirty reps

[Jason865]

I hit my best raw bench by doing 3-5 reps 1x a week and a very low volume high rep ( 30) the other chest ( push) day. IMO a fully trained muscle will be the strongest and if all you do is 1-8 rep range you are not training at 100%

[DeusInvictus]

LOL.... I'm done with this

RJ... when people do for thirty what you stuggle doing for three dont get pissed at them because they do it for thirty... Get pissed at yourself for doin it for 3

[RJstrong]

LOL.... I'm done with this

RJ... when people do for thirty what you stuggle doing for three dont get pissed at them because they do it for thirty... Get pissed at yourself for doin it for 3

you need to get your facts straight... i think my competition lifts speak for themselves... 881/650/744/2264 as far as strength goes your barking up the wrong tree... 405 isn't even 50% of my squat max... i'm not your typical powerlifter,trust me i'm pretty athletic... i could hit less then 50% of my max for 20 plus reps if i wanted... i just choose not to.

when your squatting over 800 benching over 500 and deadlifting over 700 then come talk to me.

[DeusInvictus]

Well looks like I'm never going to be able to talk to you because My bench will never be in the 500's... well never say never, but I tore my rotator cuff a couple of years ago in football and it still hurts. Any-way it looks like you took that a little too seriously. It was just a sarcastic shot back at your "Pat on the back" quote. those are great numbers and if your up that high on the powerlifting I can see how you would roll your eyes at someone doing thirty rep squats. But hey I had some fun and I dont compete so in the end who cares.
LOL... RJ looks like were going to have to to have a Squat-OFF.

[IBdmfkr]

Can we say

[Archetype]

I agree RJ did do a pump tech.. in fact he did 5 pump techs..

[Doc.Sust]

Well looks like I'm never going to be able to talk to you because My bench will never be in the 500's... well never say never, but I tore my rotator cuff a couple of years ago in football and it still hurts. Any-way it looks like you took that a little too seriously. It was just a sarcastic shot back at your "Pat on the back" quote. those are great numbers and if your up that high on the powerlifting I can see how you would roll your eyes at someone doing thirty rep squats. But hey I had some fun and I dont compete so in the end who cares.
LOL... RJ looks like were going to have to to have a Squat-OFF.

squat off!lol!

[Doc.Sust]

Doc and RJ, I know you guys go by the book when it comes to preparing for a competition, and aside from a few minor peices of philosophy, I think we agree on how to approach meet day. I disagree with yuor thoughts on high reps having no place in powerlifting. After the big meet of each year, and after a couple weeks rest, I like to do high reps. I don't do high reps everyday. I mix them in on some workouts. I find that it does two things for me:
1) I develop more mass and can turn that muscle tissue into pounds on the the Big Three

2)By the time I start preparing for the next meet, I have great muscular enduatnce and my workouts are intense from the beginning of my cycle to the end.

we will just have to agree to disagree, if it works for yourself, keep it up,but for the normal human this wouldnt be a great idea

[RJstrong]

squat off!lol!

i found that one funny myself... i think i will pass on that offer! i'm gonna save up for my next real squat off... June 8,9,10 Daytona Beach, FL... APF SR. Nationals!!!

[Doc.Sust]

i found that one funny myself... i think i will pass on that offer! i'm gonna save up for my next real squat off... June 8,9,10 Daytona Beach, FL... APF SR. Nationals!!!

are you shooting to break the 900lb barrier?

[DeusInvictus]

Good luck with that competition RJ. I appreciate the look out guys. Its been fun....

[RJstrong]

are you shooting to break the 900lb barrier?

it's gonna happen this time... if everything goes as planned 900 - 925 should be my second attempt... i've had it in me the last couple of meets. besides it would be great to do it at this meet since it's a big one and it's right here in my backyard!

[RJstrong]

Good luck with that competition RJ. I appreciate the look out guys. Its been fun....

thanks bro... i appreciate that!

[DeusInvictus]

RJ,

when you train how heavy do you go. The highest i'll go raw is 500 for 6-8. Ive bumped it up to 6 before with wraps and a belt but I ended up having pain in my knees for a while after that. do you have pain at all? could you post a work out?