Deadlifted 415 on my second time ever doing it how am I doing?

[johnnybigguns]

Today was my second time ever deadlifting and I get 415. How do you think I'm doing. I don't use wraps or anything would they help alot?

[D7M]

eh, pulled over 600 on my first try. j/k.

415 is pretty decent for your 2nd time at deads. how old are you?

[johnnybigguns]

26 I wanna break 600

[D7M]

go for it.

if you got 415 on your 2nd try, you should be able to get 600.

[johnnybigguns]

I put 465 on but I only got it like 2 inches off the floor. Last week I couldn't even get 405 off the floor at all. I don't know much about powerlifting but so far I seem very interested in it and would like to compete one day.

[D7M]

I put 465 on but I only got it like 2 inches off the floor. Last week I couldn't even get 405 off the floor at all. I don't know much about powerlifting but so far I seem very interested in it and would like to compete one day.

415 for how many reps?

[amcon]

Today was my second time ever deadlifting and I get 415. How do you think I'm doing. I don't use wraps or anything would they help alot?

nice job brotha... what are your stats

weight
hight
lifting for how long
bench
squat
that sorta thing

[johnnybigguns]

im 6 1 about 260 right now dropping to 230-240 I've been working out on and off forever but been more serious about it the last year and a half. I've only really been thinking about powerlifting the last couple weeks and started switching my workout around abit towards it. I just did it for 1 rep I didn't try more. My bench is weak ive always been very weak in the chest atleast 255 on the I was trying for more last week but I had a real bad sleep the night before and was exhausted. I have only squated twice and I did 315X2

[amcon]

ya johnny your going to start getting real strong... the 405 is a great number for where you are learn to love deads (dont ask me why but....) when your deads get heaver (and they will) your bench will increase as well.

your a big guy already - make sure you eat right, and dropping 30 lbs at your size wont be too hard just get the diet right, and maximize you natural potential!!!

great job

[johnnybigguns]

Should I be wearing a belt or any safety equip for deads?
I'm pretty confident ill see 500 quick

[amcon]

personally i would not get a squat suit, or a power lifting suit - if you take it more seriously and still love it in months to come then make that decision then

safety equip-

like a jock strap ? lol or a helmet?

i would suggest wrist straps and a nice wide belt - but, you'll look real intimidating doing 500+ with out wrist straps, as for belt i only use one when i go heavy

[johnnybigguns]

yeah im definitely thinking I want to get my hands on a belt.
I really want to compete raw but if there isn't much competition or whatever ill go equiped.
i meant like knee wraps or a belt really.
Thanks alot amcon for everything

[D7M]

personally i would not get a squat suit, or a power lifting suit - if you take it more seriously and still love it in months to come then make that decision then

safety equip-

like a jock strap ? lol or a helmet?

i would suggest wrist straps and a nice wide belt - but, you'll look real intimidating doing 500+ with out wrist straps, as for belt i only use one when i go heavy

If you're getting 415 without straps, I'd keep training without them. jmo.

I'm not a power lifter though, so I'll let someone with more experience comment on the belt.

[quarry206]

wrist straps are great for training.. but at the same time don't get so use to them that you can't hold the weight.. i use wrist straps alot, but at the same time i do heavy lifts without them too because your grip will improve alot of your lifts...

when your grip is weak your dead lift is weak.. alot of people don't realize but having a good grip on the bar will help your bench because you have more control

[amcon]

i never used straps and my hands, forearms just suffered - for me they are a must.

be happy if you dont need them - you will gain much respect pulling up 500+ lbs and no straps in the gym

[johnnybigguns]

I wonder when I get real heavy if I should use them to give me alittle extra help?

[D7M]

quarry had a good point.

if you're gradually increasing in weight then your grip will also become stronger as you move more weight.

[johnnybigguns]

Is there a point where thats just too much weight hold without wraps?

[D7M]

only one way to find out, bro!

[johnnybigguns]

I thought I read somethings somewhere about the top guys when using wraps it would add around 100lbs to there lift.

[D7M]

I thought I read somethings somewhere about the top guys when using wraps it would add around 100lbs to there lift.

probably. like I said, I'm not a power lifter.

I did try straps before on my deads, and my weight did go up.

[audis4]

If you want another opinion (no pro here) I deadlifted 615 for 2 reps last night. The only thing I use is a belt and chalk....no wrist wraps no straps, basically just raw.

How I got there....5 reps for 5 sets. I don't go heavy like this every week, I'll most likely take 2 wks off, not go over 315 next couple weeks then hit it hard again.

i.e.
135x5
225x5
315x5
365x5
405x5

let me know your thoughts!

[johnnybigguns]

How long have you been training

[Braveheart04]

im 6 1 about 260 right now dropping to 230-240 I've been working out on and off forever but been more serious about it the last year and a half. I've only really been thinking about powerlifting the last couple weeks and started switching my workout around abit towards it. I just did it for 1 rep I didn't try more. My bench is weak ive always been very weak in the chest atleast 255 on the I was trying for more last week but I had a real bad sleep the night before and was exhausted. I have only squated twice and I did 315X2

Those are very good numbers to start! Keep up the hard work and you will be suprised at how fast they will come up.

[Sasso09]

lifting 400+ the second time you've deadlifted is impressive, but also has me a bit worried. Deadlifting without good form can really hurt you, i would keep the weight lighter and perfect the form before jumping up so high, stay patient the weight will come.

[johnnybigguns]

Those are very good numbers to start! Keep up the hard work and you will be suprised at how fast they will come up.

Thank you very much its nice to here good things keeps me motivated.

[johnnybigguns]

lifting 400+ the second time you've deadlifted is impressive, but also has me a bit worried. Deadlifting without good form can really hurt you, i would keep the weight lighter and perfect the form before jumping up so high, stay patient the weight will come.

I watched alot of videos of pros doing it and read what to do it seems like im doing everything right I keep me head up good.

[DKU]

That's crazy for your second time. Do you have someone experienced watching your form? I'd be worried about getting injured putting that much weight up that fast.

I wouldn't use straps (I don't). I don't think you can use them in powerlifting, so you may as well work towards a good grip. Chalk is a must though.

[RJstrong]

Nice work! I prefer using a belt and chalk for deadlift training. Problem often times is finding a gym that will let you use chalk. I would use straps sparingly (that goes for all lifts) so you can strengthen your grip. I'm proud to say I've never missed a pull in a contest due to grip strength... i could give you a whole list of other reasons...lol! It takes work but the pay off of a strong grip is well worth it. Good luck brotha... let's see ya hit the big 600!!!

[johnnybigguns]

Yeah I was thinking about using chalk. I think there is one of those chalk sac things at the gym. I was also worried about something for my knees when I squat. What exactly dose the belt do isn;t it to keep you nice and tight to avoid hernia? There isn't really anyone in the gym powerlifting or anything like that.

[johnnybigguns]

I'd like to thank all you guys for the positive motivation I can't wait until next week to see what I can pull

[dec11]

imho jonny, throw the straps away mate, u need forearms for d'lift. as for kneee wraps in d'lift? complete bollocks, tried ev fookn theory bandage etc. be sensible train hard with no apperall 4 at least to months, stop access, have i gained??? if so get ursel a set of titan knee wraps, inzer squat suit and fukn show em!!!!!!

[johnnybigguns]

I wanna stay raw if I can. I don't use wraps im thinking chalk might be good. I was thinking knee wraps for squating. I wanan get 455 or more this coming week. maybe 500 lol

[Sherman01]

Bro, for the love of god, do not use freaking straps! All you will do is make yourself need them more and more because your grip will not improve. Everytime I see someone at the gym using straps for under 500 pounds I just roll my eyes.

1) Use a good belt.
2) Make sure your form is good. Video yourself if you can.
3) Use chalk and get used to either a hook grip or a mixed grip. F STRAPS!

Best of luck to you!

[DSM4Life]

2nd time doing a dead and your going that heavy , you better make sure your form is 100% or your going to get hurt real quick.

[johnnybigguns]

I don't know why everyone keeps saying stay away from straps. I don't use them and im not planning on it until after 600

[RJstrong]

I don't know why everyone keeps saying stay away from straps. I don't use them and im not planning on it until after 600

I think someone mentioned to use them in this thread. Your grip strength will improve as you get stronger... shouldn't need straps at 600 and beyond either.

It makes a big difference pulling with a real deadlift bar as well. Not sure if your gym has one... most commercial gyms don't. Will run you around 400 dollars. Worth every penny if you commit to deadlifting for the long haul. Something to think about.

[johnnybigguns]

I just use the olympic barbell they use for the bench press.
Whats different with a real deadlift bar?

[RJstrong]

I just use the olympic barbell they use for the bench press.
Whats different with a real deadlift bar?

It's thinner with more flex to it. Knurling is a bit different. Definitely easier to grip. Not a necessity just something to consider if you get real serious about pulling. The olympic bar is fine.

[johnnybigguns]

is it any easier to use?
There is a powerlifting gym about an hour away from me I was thinking about maybe checking it out.