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    I have a funny feeling that Branch Warren is going to sneak his ass into the top 5 this season, we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSAR

    HOWEVER...IMO...Ronnie's just not aesthetically pleasing to look at. Ronnie is built like a Humvee. Jay is much more aesthetic, along with having excellent size and condition. Jay's built like a Ferrari.

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    Your out of your FCUKIN mind. like I said denial is blinding.

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    where do you think Phil Heath will place?

    He beat out a proven top 10 Darrem Charles and a mass monster Dennis James????

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyhitter08
    where do you think Phil Heath will place?

    He beat out a proven top 10 Darrem Charles and a mass monster Dennis James????
    Phil is not competing in the Olympia

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMent1on
    Your out of your FCUKIN mind. like I said denial is blinding.
    Hey, hey, hey... we're all entitled to our opinions. Ronnie is awesome for sure, but IMO he isn't as aesthetic as Jay (or you for that matter - great avatar pic). I merely used an analogy that I felt was representative of my opinion, that of a Humvee vs. a Ferrari. I wouldn't mind owning either, but a Ferrari is more aesthetic than a Humvee. Again, this is just my opinion.

    BTW...I have a Ph.D. in linguistics - you used the 2nd person possessive pronoun "your" incorrectly. You should have began your opening sentence with "You're." I might be anal and slightly obsessive/compulsive, but I'm not crazy.

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    agreed branch in the top five
    ronnie
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    Quote Originally Posted by CSAR
    I wouldn't mind owning either, but a Ferrari is more aesthetic than a Humvee.
    My sentiments exactly, this explanation is prolly your/the best overall desrciptor of the aesthetic argument, IMO...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSAR
    Hey, hey, hey... we're all entitled to our opinions. Ronnie is awesome for sure, but IMO he isn't as aesthetic as Jay (or you for that matter - great avatar pic). I merely used an analogy that I felt was representative of my opinion, that of a Humvee vs. a Ferrari. I wouldn't mind owning either, but a Ferrari is more aesthetic than a Humvee. Again, this is just my opinion.

    BTW...I have a Ph.D. in linguistics - you used the 2nd person possessive pronoun "your" incorrectly. You should have began your opening sentence with "You're." I might be anal and slightly obsessive/compulsive, but I'm not crazy.

    PEACE!!!

    Oh snap! I'm no longer listed as a newbie... I'm a Jr. Member! Hoo-yah!!!
    Just curious what do u mean by that? were judging muscle size, shape (symetry) etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stayinstacked
    They wont give it to Ronnie this year, they know it will piss too many people off, they know it's time to hand it over to someone else. It's the politics of the sport, and in the IFBB it's all politics and hype.
    that is actually a very good point, it should be interesting, i hope your right

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    They are not going to give it to him, he will win it for himself, lol.

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    That is true of course, but i think if they just didnt give it to hm because they know it'd really piss alot of ppl off would be hilarious

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSAR
    Hey, hey, hey... we're all entitled to our opinions. Ronnie is awesome for sure, but IMO he isn't as aesthetic as Jay (or you for that matter - great avatar pic). I merely used an analogy that I felt was representative of my opinion, that of a Humvee vs. a Ferrari. I wouldn't mind owning either, but a Ferrari is more aesthetic than a Humvee. Again, this is just my opinion.

    BTW...I have a Ph.D. in linguistics - you used the 2nd person possessive pronoun "your" incorrectly. You should have began your opening sentence with "You're." I might be anal and slightly obsessive/compulsive, but I'm not crazy.

    PEACE!!!

    Oh snap! I'm no longer listed as a newbie... I'm a Jr. Member! Hoo-yah!!!

    i would take a hummvee over a ferrari any day of the week

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuhlFreak55
    i would take a hummvee over a ferrari any day of the week
    you hick! Ferrari's FTW

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuhlFreak55
    i would take a hummvee over a ferrari any day of the week

    haha, standard subjective to your argument response, haha...theres no argument among car lovers that a ferrari is a nicer car, you don't have to agree with the analogy, but accept if for what it is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undecided09
    haha, standard subjective to your argument response, haha...theres no argument among car lovers that a ferrari is a nicer car, you don't have to agree with the analogy, but accept if for what it is...

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    That Analogy is far off. you cannot use that analgoy becuase Jay is th eclosest looking thing to Ronnie. honestly its more closer to a LAMBURGINIE vs. FERRARI. they both look good to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVTMuscle
    you hick! Ferrari's FTW
    That is a dope ride..

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    yeah I think its safe to say, i'd take a shot in the mouth for that car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMent1on
    That Analogy is far off. you cannot use that analgoy becuase Jay is th eclosest looking thing to Ronnie. honestly its more closer to a LAMBURGINIE vs. FERRARI. they both look good to me.

    Wise beyod ur years, as usual, lol...you know what I've actually come to realize though?? I don't have Colemans physique....I just don't like his personality one bit, thats really what i've finger pointed on....

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    Hey CSAR just wanted to agree with you on most points you made here and say welcome to the site as well. You showed great maturity with your responses and I usually wont put this in the open forum but its great to have a new member with respect and maturity like you.

    BTW GO CUTLER...Mr Ment Im not in denial my friend. I know Jay has the better overall package. Ronnie needs to take some training tips form Jay on CALVES, ABS and TRI's...wow they are weak. Jay doesnt have any major weaknesses that compare to Ronnies. Sure I think Ronnie has better chest and bi's and back detail, but the difference isnt as major as it is between Jays calves, tris and abs over Ronnie.

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    Oh and BTW...

    LIGHTS OUT

    Wow legs and abs...I mean honestly no disrespect to Ronnie but can someone explain what the is? I mean that horrid looking mess on his stomach.



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    Yeah it def looks like a sloppy bowl of spagetto's for his gut

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVTMuscle
    Yeah it def looks like a sloppy bowl of spagetto's for his gut
    SVT man...I literally laughed out loud so hard there. That was hilarious.

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    haha im glad i can keep the humor up man

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    As much as i don't like colemans personality, atleast he has a personality, Jay is so monotone and unemotional, I don't like that at all....P.S. my fav physique is prolly my man Johnnie Jackson, FYI....

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    Johnny has a sick body! Not my favorite but def one of them.
    I agree, Jay has a very bitter attitude, i've met him before, he is very unemotional and enthusastic

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVTMuscle
    Johnny has a sick body! Not my favorite but def one of them.
    I agree, Jay has a very bitter attitude, i've met him before, he is very unemotional and enthusastic

    thats confirmed on jay shitty attititude

    verfied johnny has a great body

    ronnies abs look genetically fd up

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE_DOME
    thats confirmed on jay shitty attititude

    verfied johnny has a great body

    ronnies abs look genetically fd up

    I love how you addressed every issue, hahaha....Yeah I've seen videos where Jay talks, and just the way he answers questions gives everything away...Its like hes too serious or something, I'm not saying you shouldn't be serious, I'm saying that hes just overboard, and that much focus and seriousness all the time can lead to negativity, doubt, etc, when things don't always go ur way....some of the best lessons I've learned in life are that nobodies perfect, and your always going to make mistakes, the only way to learn from your mistakes is to own up to them, laugh at urself when you do something dumb, and make sure you do your best to not make those same mistakes again....

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Bino
    Oh and BTW...

    LIGHTS OUT

    Wow legs and abs...I mean honestly no disrespect to Ronnie but can someone explain what the is? I mean that horrid looking mess on his stomach.



    jays not any better in that pic LOL.

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    Ronnie Wont Win It.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicAndre
    Ronnie Wont Win It.
    thats fiction, Ronnie will win it, although i'd love to see him come in 2nd and the look on his face

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    Quote Originally Posted by collar
    jays not any better in that pic LOL.
    gotta agree dude, jays abs look like shit as well in that pic!

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    Oh geez you guys get picky, you can tell he hasnt fully contracted them. But anything next to Ronnies looks like gold. Here you go haters...show me an ab shot from Ronnie that rivals this.

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    both kinda look like busted dish of lo mein noodles, but what do you expect at 270+ pounds at 4% bodyfat

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    Let's face it - neither Ronnie or Jay have the greatest of a**ominal structures.

    Ronnie's got a huge linea alba separation, in addition to having rounded "chunky" obliques. Also, look at the musculature at the point of attachment between Ronnie's ribcage and a**ominal wall. The muscles there appear distended and stretched, which may suggest excessive GH use. You can literally draw a circle from the lower part of Ronnie's chest to the tops of his posing trunks. Ronnie's torso structure reminds me of another Mr. O, Lee Haney. Haney had similar a**ominal features (i.e., short torso, linea alba separation, etc.) but without the "chunky" obliques.

    Jay's got a long torso with an irregular ab structure, appearing to have 5 abs on the right vs 4 abs on the left. Although Jay and Ronnie have similar waist sizes, Jay's appears wider when viewed head on and side-by-side with Ronnie. This is possibly due to his shorter height, longer torso, lighter complexion, etc. While Jay's obliques aren't the greatest, they are certainly less "chunky" than Ronnie's.

    Please bear in mind that these are only my opinions and observations. In all honesty, I wouldn't mind looking like either one of these champions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Bino
    Oh geez you guys get picky, you can tell he hasnt fully contracted them. But anything next to Ronnies looks like gold. Here you go haters...show me an ab shot from Ronnie that rivals this.

    Agreed!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhuman
    My Prediction...

    1. Jay Cutler
    2. Ronnie Coleman
    3. Gustavo Badel
    4. Dexter Jackson
    5. Branch Warren
    YO!!! look @ what my predictions were ^

    these are the official results:
    1. Jay Cutler!
    2. Ronnie Coleman
    3. Victor Martinez
    4. Dexter Jackson
    5. Melvin Anthony

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhuman
    YO!!! look @ what my predictions were ^

    these are the official results:
    1. Jay Cutler!
    2. Ronnie Coleman
    3. Victor Martinez
    4. Dexter Jackson
    5. Melvin Anthony
    Dude, you were 3 for 5!! Pretty damn good!!

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    The arguments about ronnies"GH" gut are fairly apparent...what do you guys think??
    also I have read that jays RT side of his body has muscular atrophy...any one have any ideas or thoughts on it? If you look in detail, he does seem to be smaller on his rt side.

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