Start of my S4 with DS Log

[Okinawa_Power]

Why did you just post pics of jay cutler O ??? ..........LOL lookin good!!

Thanks for the comments TOP!!!! Gonna need your help after this bulk!!!!! Post some pictures of you soon!!!!!

[bass]

Why did you just post pics of jay cutler O ??? ..........LOL lookin good!!

LMAO....

Hey Okinawa, i compared your last photos to these ones, a huge difference. your back and shoulders stands out the most, then your chest definitely got bigger, your upper abs are more defined, and finally your veins are more prominent. excellent work bro, i am inspired...

[toothache]

You are looking good. Awesome back!!

[FireGuy]

My knowledge on SARM's is not enough that I would feel comfortable giving any advice on them. It looks like TOP has the diet under control. Just glancing at it I think you could drop the protein some and replace the calories with carbs and/or fat. One of the biggest mistakes or misconceptions I see is people running their protein too high when bulking.
Looking big as ever O Power, dont me afraid to mix in some more cardio just cause you are bulking.

[Kiki]

Wow man, your shoulders Onikawa are utterly ridiculous.

[Okinawa_Power]

My knowledge on SARM's is not enough that I would feel comfortable giving any advice on them. It looks like TOP has the diet under control. Just glancing at it I think you could drop the protein some and replace the calories with carbs and/or fat. One of the biggest mistakes or misconceptions I see is people running their protein too high when bulking.
Looking big as ever O Power, dont me afraid to mix in some more cardio just cause you are bulking.

FireGuy1 thanks for the advice. I will relook my protein intake and adjust. I will also throw in about 15-20 min of cardio a day. Thanks again.

Wow man, your shoulders Onikawa are utterly ridiculous.

Thanks Kiki!!!!!

[Okinawa_Power]

LMAO....

Hey Okinawa, i compared your last photos to these ones, a huge difference. your back and shoulders stands out the most, then your chest definitely got bigger, your upper abs are more defined, and finally your veins are more prominent. excellent work bro, i am inspired...

Bass thanks for all the great comments!!! You are the inspiration for me using S4!!! Thanks again for all you knowledge!!!

[Okinawa_Power]

You are looking good. Awesome back!!

Thanks toothache!!! And go to the dentist for that hurting tooth!!!

[Okinawa_Power]

Hello all.....Today I worked chest and it is the second day that I upped my cycle to 3 caps a day for both Stane/Tren . My workout follows:

DB Flat Bench: 30 x 50, 110 x 12, 130 x 8, 140 x 6 (Those ****ing 150s are just laughing at me, been meaning to give them a try....guess i'm scared)
Flat Bench: 135 x 20, 225 x 10, 315 x 8 followed by a drop set down to 135 to failure
DB Incline Bench: 70 x 10, 90 x 8, 105 x 6
Machine Press: Start at 170 up to 245 to failure then back down
Pec Deck: Start at 50 up to 110 to failure
Dips: 3 sets to failure.......****ing chest was pumped!!!!!!!!!!

Abs: Hanging leg lifts 4 Sets x Failure
Seated Crunches: 4 Sets starting at 50 up to 150 until failure. Abs where hurting like a bitch...Felt like someone kicked me in the gut .......

Eating was a problem today because my job had me running around like a chicken so I did not eat well........I will make up the calories tonight and eat at least 3 meals before bed......

Thanks for reading....

[verino]

You have great size. Wish i had your back!! haha nice work.

[Okinawa_Power]

You have great size. Wish i had your back!! haha nice work.

Verino thanks for the comments!!

[bass]

Okinawa, you are smart to hold back on more weights, the last thing you want is an injury, and believe me its not hard to get one! friend mine visited me yesterday, he used to bench 300 pounds when he was 16 years old, now he is 45, and last year he pushed it to 400 for few reps and snap, he blow his shoulder cuff, and now can never go back doing heavy weights. I am glad your got a good head on your HUGE shoulders...keep working buddy, you will look awesome...

[Okinawa_Power]

Okinawa, you are smart to hold back on more weights, the last thing you want is an injury, and believe me its not hard to get one! friend mine visited me yesterday, he used to bench 300 pounds when he was 16 years old, now he is 45, and last year he pushed it to 400 for few reps and snap, he blow his shoulder cuff, and now can never go back doing heavy weights. I am glad your got a good head on your HUGE shoulders...keep working buddy, you will look awesome...

Thanks Bass...I am going to hold back for awhile!!!!! How is your PCT going? Are you done? How do you feel? I bet your getting sliced right now!!!!! Let me know how it is going!!!

[Okinawa_Power]

Hello all....Workout follows:

Squats: 135 x 15, 225 x 12, 315 x 8, 405 x 6, 315 x 6, 225 x 8, 225 x 8, 225 x 8, 225 x 8....Yeah lots of sets.....Legs gotta grow!!!!!!!!!

Leg Press:
200 x 15, 400 x 12, 600 x 10, 800 x 8 back down to 400 x 12, 400 x 12, 200 x 20, 20 x 20<---------For the last sets I use a very wide stance......

Leg Extensions: 70 X 15, 110 X 12, 170 X 10 down to 150 down to 30 each set to failure.

Reverse Leg Curls: 70 X 25, 110 X 15, 160 X 12

Lying Leg Curls: 100 X 10 120 X 8, 140 X 6

Walking Lunges: 90lbs walked about 25 feet and went back. 110lbs same as before

Abbductions: Went up to 200lbs for 4 sets 15 reps each set.

Thanks for reading.

[bass]

Thanks Bass...I am going to hold back for awhile!!!!! How is your PCT going? Are you done? How do you feel? I bet your getting sliced right now!!!!! Let me know how it is going!!!

i am defiantly loosing muscles due to cardio and strict dieting. yesterday did chest, not as good as the last one, felt weaker. i am also getting this mild acne on my face, it doesn't look or feel like an acne, it feels more like dots of cold-sore, its very painful. not sure if its the PCT, but i am ending it this Sunday, then off for one week then the blood test after that.

Dude, your workouts are insane! i can't wait to see your results...

[**TOP**]

O I just thought of something,here me out and if im off base please inform me and anyone else for that matter. I deal with the diet side of things and dont have a great knowledge of AAS or pro hormones for that matter but i was thinking about your cycle.....

E-Stane: 2 Caps/3Caps/3Caps/4Caps
X-Tren : 2Caps/3Caps/3Caps/4Caps

Now with this you are tapering up so its like climbing the ladder and at the 4th month jumping off and hoping to be caught by PCT,right?

would it be more beneficial to run it like this?
............week1/week2./week2.5/week3/week4
E-Stane: 2 Caps/3Caps/4 caps/3Caps/2Caps
X-Tren: 2Caps/3Caps4caps//3Caps/2Caps


That way its more of a spike in the middle of the cycle, then a stepping down towards the end of the cycle?

IM NOT SAYING TO DO THIS,im asking does this make more sense? and if not why? Anyone......bueller....bueller....lol......TOP

[Okinawa_Power]

O I just thought of something,here me out and if im off base please inform me and anyone else for that matter. I deal with the diet side of things and dont have a great knowledge of AAS or pro hormones for that matter but i was thinking about your cycle.....

E-Stane: 2 Caps/3Caps/3Caps/4Caps
X-Tren : 2Caps/3Caps/3Caps/4Caps

Now with this you are tapering up so its like climbing the ladder and at the 4th month jumping off and hoping to be caught by PCT,right?

would it be more beneficial to run it like this?
............week1/week2./week2.5/week3/week4
E-Stane: 2 Caps/3Caps/4 caps/3Caps/2Caps
X-Tren: 2Caps/3Caps4caps//3Caps/2Caps


That way its more of a spike in the middle of the cycle, then a stepping down towards the end of the cycle?

IM NOT SAYING TO DO THIS,im asking does this make more sense? and if not why? Anyone......bueller....bueller....lol......TOP

Top that is just the way I have always ran PH/DS.....It may not be the best way but I have always gotten great results using them this way. Most would say just to run it at 3 caps a day for 30 days. I feel that if you taper up then your body will not adjust to the chemical and you will have better results. Try it out and let me know how it goes.

[Okinawa_Power]

i am defiantly loosing muscles due to cardio and strict dieting. yesterday did chest, not as good as the last one, felt weaker. i am also getting this mild acne on my face, it doesn't look or feel like an acne, it feels more like dots of cold-sore, its very painful. not sure if its the PCT, but i am ending it this Sunday, then off for one week then the blood test after that.

Dude, your workouts are insane! i can't wait to see your results...

Bass are you running clen ? Clen has the ability to save muscle and also keep your strength up. Also the acne on your face may be the results of using Clomid, clomid has been know to cause some acne. I know when I was running PCT my back and chest broke out. I hope it gets better for you. Just keep lifting those heavy ass weights!!!!!

[Okinawa_Power]

Hello all.....Well since starting this log and my cycle I have gained 9lbs...I can see my abs more and I feel like a rock....Hard grainy look if you will.....My strength has improved and the amounts of reps I can do has increased. My strength gains come from the S4 and the DS that I am taking, however I think that I am stronger because of the S4 due to my joints not hurting when lifting!!! It feels so good to be able to push some serious weight and not have your elbows hurt like they are broken. Today I worked arms:

Reverse Grip Bench: 135 x 15, 225 x 10, 225 x 10 275 x 8
DB Extensions: 100 x 12, 120 x 10, 130 x 8 followed by 70 x 20
Skull Crushers: 70 x 12, 100 x 10, 110 x 8 each set followed by close grip 10 reps each
Push Downs: Weight from 110-170 x 12-15 reps until failure
One Arm Extensions: 15 x 20, 20 x 15, 30 x 8 <----shit felt heavy!!!!

Camber Bar Curls (Wide Grip) 70 x 15, 90 x 10, 110 x 8
Alternate DB Curls: 30 x 10, 45 x 8, 50 x 6, 55 x 6
Concentration Curls: 20 x 12-15 for 4 sets
Cable Curls (Close Grip) Weight from 90-150 x 4 sets to failure
Hammer Curls: 30 x 12, 50 x 8, 60 x 6 <-------Shit felt heavy!!!!

Was going to work calves but got lazy.....Food intake has slightly decreased...I have no appattite (sp?)....So I am forcing myself to eat every 3 hours...I have increased my carbs and lowered my protein intake. I am getting 300 gms Protein, 275gms Carbs, 100gms Fat.....Cardio starts Monday at 15 minutes a day.....Thanks for reading......

On a side note I look in the mirror and I don't like what I see.....The reason is that I am bulking and my body looks like I am cutting....I am talking no water retention no bloat.....I am used to bulking and looking like a freaking water ballon....of course I am eating a lot cleaner then I ever have....I don't know.....Anyone know what I am talking about??? The look you get when bulking????

[**TOP**]

Yeah like a fat ass buffalo,or a over inflated tire!! If i were you id be happy not sad.

[bass]

Bass are you running clen? Clen has the ability to save muscle and also keep your strength up. Also the acne on your face may be the results of using Clomid, clomid has been know to cause some acne. I know when I was running PCT my back and chest broke out. I hope it gets better for you. Just keep lifting those heavy ass weights!!!!!

thanks for the advise, I’ll learn more about Clen before using it, maybe I’ll do it with my next S4 cycle...

[bass]

Hello all.....Well since starting this log and my cycle I have gained 9lbs...I can see my abs more and I feel like a rock....Hard grainy look if you will.....My strength has improved and the amounts of reps I can do has increased. My strength gains come from the S4 and the DS that I am taking, however I think that I am stronger because of the S4 due to my joints not hurting when lifting!!! It feels so good to be able to push some serious weight and not have your elbows hurt like they are broken. Today I worked arms:

Reverse Grip Bench: 135 x 15, 225 x 10, 225 x 10 275 x 8
DB Extensions: 100 x 12, 120 x 10, 130 x 8 followed by 70 x 20
Skull Crushers: 70 x 12, 100 x 10, 110 x 8 each set followed by close grip 10 reps each
Push Downs: Weight from 110-170 x 12-15 reps until failure
One Arm Extensions: 15 x 20, 20 x 15, 30 x 8 <----shit felt heavy!!!!

Camber Bar Curls (Wide Grip) 70 x 15, 90 x 10, 110 x 8
Alternate DB Curls: 30 x 10, 45 x 8, 50 x 6, 55 x 6
Concentration Curls: 20 x 12-15 for 4 sets
Cable Curls (Close Grip) Weight from 90-150 x 4 sets to failure
Hammer Curls: 30 x 12, 50 x 8, 60 x 6 <-------Shit felt heavy!!!!

Was going to work calves but got lazy.....Food intake has slightly decreased...I have no appattite (sp?)....So I am forcing myself to eat every 3 hours...I have increased my carbs and lowered my protein intake. I am getting 300 gms Protein, 275gms Carbs, 100gms Fat.....Cardio starts Monday at 15 minutes a day.....Thanks for reading......

On a side note I look in the mirror and I don't like what I see.....The reason is that I am bulking and my body looks like I am cutting....I am talking no water retention no bloat.....I am used to bulking and looking like a freaking water ballon....of course I am eating a lot cleaner then I ever have....I don't know.....Anyone know what I am talking about??? The look you get when bulking????

i am so glad this cycle is working great for you buddy, i can't wait to see your next photos. Great log BTW...

[Okinawa_Power]

Hello all.....I worked shoulders today:

Military Press (Front) 135 x 10, 155 x 8, 175 x 8. Drop set to 135 for 6 more reps

DB Press: 80 x 10, 90 x 8, 90 x 8 Drop set to 40 x Failure (15 Reps)

Machine Press: 190 x 20 220 x 15, 245 x 12 Drop set to 110 until Failure

Side Lat Raises: 25 x 10, 35 x 8, 45 x 6 Drop set with 20 to Failure

Front DB Raises: 25 x 15, 35 x 12, 50 x 8

BB Shrugs: 225 x 20, 315 x 15, 315 x 15

Seated DB Shrugs: 50 x 3 sets to failure

Behind Back Shrugs: 225 x 15, 315 x 12, 405 x 10

Calves:

Standing Raises start at 225 up to 495 x 15 reps hold for one second on bottom 2 seconds on Top

Seated Calve Raises: 90 x 4 Sets to failure

Went home and took in 90gms of Protein....My 5th meal will be 1/2 pound of chicken with 3 cups of rice........

I am feeling the effects of the X-Tren /E-Stane for strength.........My joints are not hurting as bad as they usually do when I take a DS so props to the SARM S4...... Still have the hard grainy look.....No water retention....I will take some pictures on Wednesday to show my progress......

[Okinawa_Power]

Hello all......For the second day I have raised the intake of X-Tren /E-Stane to 4 caps a day. I will continue with this for a week and a half and then start to taper down from 4 caps to 3 caps to 2 caps until I start my PCT. The S4 has started to kick in and I feel it most in my joints!!! Today I worked back:

BB Bent over Rows: 135 X 15, 225 X 12, 225 X 10, 275 X 8 drop set to 225 x 6

T-Bar Rows (Close Grip): 2 Plates x 15, 3 plates x 12, 4 plates x 10, 5 plates x 8 (I have no idea how Ronnie Coleman goes up to 695lbs on this movement, ****ing insane)

Seated Rows: Close Grip: 210 X 15, 275 X 12, 330 X 10 drop set to 200 x 10 drop set to 110 x 6

Pull Downs (Wide Grip) 125 X 15, 170 X 10, 220 X 8

Pull Downs (With V Handle): 90 X 20, 110 X 15, 125 X 12

Hammer Strength Rows: 1 Plate x 20, 2 Plates x 15, 3 Plates x 12

Pull Ups: 3 sets to failure (At this point my back was ****ing hurting so I could only get 3-4 reps)

Worked Abs also....

[**TOP**]

Looks as if you took what i said into consideration! To me it makes more sense and try to limit the gap from on/off cycle i wish someone would let us know if we are correct!!

[Okinawa_Power]

Looks as if you took what i said into consideration! To me it makes more sense and try to limit the gap from on/off cycle i wish someone would let us know if we are correct!!

You know i'm into trying something different...I am going to see how this goes and how I feel....Sides from Tren /Stane are coming in .......Acne on chest/back.......Lower back pumps are starting to hit me.......We shall see how this goes........

[bigpapabuff]

Very Very good information, thank you so much for this. Looks like the sarms is having some good effects for everyone using it.

[Okinawa_Power]

Hello all.....Today I felt ok.....Went to the range so eating was not that good. I worked chest today:

DB Flat Bench: 40 x 50, 120 x 12, 130 x 8, 145 x 6 last set dropset to 50's for 15 more reps

BB Flat Bench: 135 x 15, 225 x 10, 315 x 6 <-----This shit hurt........

Hammer Bench: Started at 110 worked my way up to 245 to failure

Incline DB Bench: 70 x 15, 100 x 10, 80 x 15 dropset with 50's to failure

Pec Deck: Started at 70 worked up to 120 to failure

Dips: 3 Sets to Failure

Strength continues to go up, reps have gone up also... Joints are doing better so I think that is the reason I can lift more weight along with the Tren /Stane kicking in 100% by now.....My night vision is still bad, not fun to drive at night.......Acne is coming in from the Tren/Stane.......I have only gained 9lbs from this cycle so far.......Maybe I need to up my calories some more......My overall well being is ok.......I feel good at the gym, however when I look in the mirror I don't like what I see.....I will take pictures tomorrow and let you assess my progress...Thanks for reading.....

[**TOP**]

pics!!!

[bass]

just to let you know big O, even though I don’t post everyday i read your log daily...

only 9 pounds in less than two weeks! are you kidding me? dude. that’s awesome...can't wait to see the photos...

[Okinawa_Power]

Hello all.....just wanted to let you all know how the sides are going .....Right now I am at 4 caps a day Tren /Stane, however I have kept the S4 at 50mg a day splilt into two doses. My agression level is at about 100%, If someone talks to me the wrong way I want to rip their head off.....My sex drive is through the roof....I wake up with a 14 inch wood every morning....Ok, i'm telling lies....a 12 inch wood..... LMFAO!!!!! I am seeing the world through a yellow tint and know that is a side from the S4, it used to be at night that I would experience these problems now it is all the time.....Strength is through the roof also.....Joints are feeling 75% better than normal and I am able to really lift heavy when I work Bi's........I will post pictures tonight after I get done with work...Thanks for reading...

[bass]

12"! BTW S4 has another side effect, on the label it says "object may appear larger than actual size" LOL...dude, just take it easy on the little lady...

[Okinawa_Power]

LMFAO!!!!! Yeah like the sticker in the mirror!!!!!! Well S4 does give you vision problems....Might be making things look bigger than they really are........

[bass]

okay bro, where are the pics?

[Vitruvian-Man]

I wake up with a 14 inch wood every morning....Ok, i'm telling lies....a 12 inch wood..... LMFAO!!!!!

Aren't you Japanese???

Let's be realistic here... 2 inches.

[Okinawa_Power]

Aren't you Japanese???

Let's be realistic here... 2 inches.

LMFAO!!! No i'm not japanese!!!!!!!

[Okinawa_Power]

Hello all...These are the second week of bulking pictures. Please critique....

[bass]

okay, not sure if its the lighting but no change in definition, maybe lost some! sorry just giving you my honest observations. it seems you were more vascular in the last photos. having said that, i compared your last photos to these and it looks like you've gained especially on your shoulders and triceps. your abs showed more in the last photos, you could have gained fat due to the way you are eating, but you only been on this cycle for 2 weeks, its too early to make any conclusions. overall you look bigger.

[Okinawa_Power]

okay, not sure if its the lighting but no change in definition, maybe lost some! sorry just giving you my honest observations. it seems you were more vascular in the last photos. having said that, i compared your last photos to these and it looks like you've gained especially on your shoulders and triceps. your abs showed more in the last photos, you could have gained fat due to the way you are eating, but you only been on this cycle for 2 weeks, its too early to make any conclusions. overall you look bigger.

Bass thank you for your honest assessment!!!! Yes the camara I used last time took much better pictures.....I have gained some fat because of the way I have been eating, however I think it will benifit me in the long run...

These are non pumped pictures...I took the other pictures after working back so maybe I looked more pumped vascular in the other ones because of that!!!

Thanks again!!

[bass]

i thought that was the case, but its only been two weeks and you gained 9 pounds, you have few weeks to go and i am sure you will look awesome at the end.