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    LEF Testosterone Controversy

    Thought this was an interesting article that touched on a lot of relevant topics discussed here. Pay attention to some of the numbers mentioned relative to incidence of issues arising. E2 numbers as well. Check it out:

    http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2012/...roversy_01.htm
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    Thanks for the great read Kel.

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    Kel: I read this last week, but I still don't know what the hell he is advocating!

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    What I got out of it is higher T levels (above 550) as well as good free and balanced E levels lead to overall better health as well as a substantial lessening in risk of debilitating issues. Naturally it's followed up by their ad for Hormone Panel testing but I still thought relevant to our forum!

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    Interesting....

    The four quartiles of total testosterone in this large group of older men were:

    Quartile 1: Total testosterone below 340 ng/dL.

    Quartile 2: Total testosterone be-tween 341-438 ng/dL.

    Quartile 3: Total testosterone be-tween 439-549 ng/dL.

    Quartile 4: Total testosterone above 550 ng/dL.

    Of interest was the finding that Quartiles 1, 2, and 3 had about the same risk of cardiac adverse events. It was only in Quartile 4 (when total testosterone exceeded 550 ng/dL) that the 30% reduction in cardiovascular events occurred.
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    We at Life Extension suggest that men maintain their free testosterone in the range of 20 to 25 ng/dL of blood.98 Others with expertise in this area believe free testosterone as low as 15 ng/dL is adequate.

    Conventional blood labs, on the other hand, say aging men are alright with as little as 6.6 ng/dL of free testosterone in their blood—an absurdly low level!
    Yikes! Men with low testosterone had 65% greater all-cause mortality, while men with low estradiol suffered 54% more deaths.

    Thank you for posting this... not really much latebreaking news, but good information that sort of puts a few important pieces of the puzzle into practical application.

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    I thought it was pretty simply put so it's easily understandable for the masses.

    What about the part about "men low in both T and E were almost twice as likely to die compared to men in optimal ranges!" Jeez.

    I'm not hurting by any means in T but my E runs steadily low (15-16 consistent) which now worries me a bit more!

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    Don't forget DHEA, interesting bit of info concerning that too, important stuff that often gets overlooked.

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