Width and thickness.

[jpowell]

wondering what i can do to gain back thickness, a wide chest, back. Point me in the right directions to maybe sum stickies or threads, but ive searched and searched cant seem to find a thing.

stats if needed

26
231
22%
tryn to cut--shed bf to decrease weight and bf% numbers

[mirin_serratus]

chest is mostly genetics, it won't get much wider with training
back thickness - barbell rows, deadlift
back width - wide grip pullups

[baseline_9]

chest is mostly genetics, it won't get much wider with training
back thickness - barbell rows, deadlift
back width - wide grip pullups

Why would wide grip pull ups give you a wide back? Close grip would be more effective if performed correctly

And to the OP, train hard, like every set is your last.... If you train balls to the wall with low-moderate volume you will grow no matter what you do... So long as diet is up 2 par.

Decline presses
Incline presses
Crossovers
Rows or any kind
Pull ups
Pull downs
Pull overs

[abbot138]

Why would wide grip pull ups give you a wide back? Close grip would be more effective if performed correctly

And to the OP, train hard, like every set is your last.... If you train balls to the wall with low-moderate volume you will grow no matter what you do... So long as diet is up 2 par.

Decline presses
Incline presses
Crossovers
Rows or any kind
Pull ups
Pull downs
Pull overs

Is this Dorian Yates? lol Do what he said. Wide grip doesnt mean wide back.

[baseline_9]

Is this Dorian Yates? lol Do what he said. Wide grip doesnt mean wide back.

No lol but I do live about 2 miles away from him


He has a good no bull sh*t theory to training...

Doing wide grip is just reducing ROM and putting the biceps in a weak position

I always go should width underhand or use an Iso lateral pull down machine with an intermediate grip (palms facing each other

[marcus300]

Looks like Base got this covered

I agree close grip pull downs are Superior to wide grip for back width

[Swifto]

Looks like Base got this covered

I agree close grip pull downs are Superior to wide grip for back width

I know we've had this chat before and I love my wide grip pulldowns...

Do you really think close grip are better? The employ more of the bicep than wide grip...

How exactly are you doing them as well? At the end of the eccentric I lean slightly forward with my hands above my head and REALLY stretch the lats, is that how you do them?

[alexISthrowed]

I employ wide and close grip exercise's in my back workout. I like to hit my back from all angles, and I think they both are beneficial.

[baseline_9]

I know we've had this chat before and I love my wide grip pulldowns...

Do you really think close grip are better? The employ more of the bicep than wide grip...

How exactly are you doing them as well? At the end of the eccentric I lean slightly forward with my hands above my head and REALLY stretch the lats, is that how you do them?

Thats how I do them...

[baseline_9]

I employ wide and close grip exercise's in my back workout. I like to hit my back from all angles, and I think they both are beneficial.

They are different.... I do sometimes like to do some light behind the head pulldowns at the end of my session... With perfect form tho and only to the back of my head... Not half way down my neck

[jpowell]

as of now, all ihave done is wide grip chins, and wide grip pull downs. but ill try to use the advice and hit my muscles a lil diff. thanks guys

[ucf465]

Why would wide grip pull ups give you a wide back? Close grip would be more effective if performed correctly

And to the OP, train hard, like every set is your last.... If you train balls to the wall with low-moderate volume you will grow no matter what you do... So long as diet is up 2 par.

Decline presses
Incline presses
Crossovers
Rows or any kind
Pull ups
Pull downs
Pull overs

what do you consider low to moderate volume, 4 sets of 5? or something else?

[abbot138]

No lol but I do live about 2 miles away from him


He has a good no bull sh*t theory to training...

Doing wide grip is just reducing ROM and putting the biceps in a weak position

I always go should width underhand or use an Iso lateral pull down machine with an intermediate grip (palms facing each other

Damn. Thats very cool....I follow most of his training theories as well. I saw your list of exercises and figured you were a big fan.

[Armykid93]

Deadlifts are the best for me

[baseline_9]

what do you consider low to moderate volume, 4 sets of 5? or something else?

For back I will normally do 8-10 working sets but that includes traps as well.... Im currently doing 2 sets of each exercise

[baseline_9]

Damn. Thats very cool....I follow most of his training theories as well. I saw your list of exercises and figured you were a big fan.

Yep, I think he talks sense...

[M302_Imola]

Is this Dorian Yates? lol Do what he said. Wide grip doesnt mean wide back.

damn bro, I haven't seen you around in awhile...you been hiding out?

[abbot138]

damn bro, I haven't seen you around in awhile...you been hiding out?

Got married, lol....You look sick brother. Come a long way.

[M302_Imola]

Got married, lol....You look sick brother. Come a long way.

lol, I hear ya bro...duty calls! Thanks bro, been trying to hit it hard! Looking ripped yourself!