Question for Slingshot GURU

[Doggcrapp]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7...RVAbstractPlus

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7...ubmed_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2...ubmed_RVDocSum

Ronnie is your memory going bad? Trust me I am not the only one that remembers you tore your bicep right in the middle of your huge 50 page thread on professional muscle about Ironman/STS training. You were using YOUR AND ONLY YOUR methods when you tore your bicep and the proof of that is the time/dates of your posts over there about the subject. Dont make me start posting links to threads and make you eat your words again. You are going to tell people you were doing my methods right in the middle of a 50 page thread where you were telling everyone to do Ironman training?
I am amazed at one thing. After you were kicked off 2 earlier muscle boards for finding out you were a bullshit artist.......... and then kicked off Professional Muscle (not once but twice when you came back as a new name) for them finding out also you are a bullshit artist (deleted your threads), then picking up and starting anew on Ironmagazine for almost a year....before they also kicked you off their site and deleted your training threads for again the same reasons above.....it amazes me that here you are again.......and it really doesnt matter to me much but I always know when things are drying up for you marketing wise because you always start some sort of "DC training bashing" thread to get people looking at you again.
The absolutely funniest thing ive heard in a long time was a bodybuilding.com moderator telling me he traces the IP addresses and that you make up fake screen names over there to ask questions of yourself on your STS thread. Pretty pathetic....but hey thats been the name of the game for you for a number of years now hasnt it. Do you know why I dont ever put STS training down or any training system down thats out there?

I dont have to. I let the results of my opinions speak for me. Might want to take an hour to think about that Ronnie.

[Ronnie Rowland]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7...RVAbstractPlus

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7...ubmed_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2...ubmed_RVDocSum

Ronnie is your memory going bad? Trust me I am not the only one that remembers you tore your bicep right in the middle of your huge 50 page thread on professional muscle about Ironman/STS training. You were using YOUR AND ONLY YOUR methods when you tore your bicep and the proof of that is the time/dates of your posts over there about the subject. Dont make me start posting links to threads and make you eat your words again. You are going to tell people you were doing my methods right in the middle of a 50 page thread where you were telling everyone to do Ironman training?
I am amazed at one thing. After you were kicked off 2 earlier muscle boards for finding out you were a bullshit artist.......... and then kicked off Professional Muscle (not once but twice when you came back as a new name) for them finding out also you are a bullshit artist (deleted your threads), then picking up and starting anew on Ironmagazine for almost a year....before they also kicked you off their site and deleted your training threads for again the same reasons above.....it amazes me that here you are again.......and it really doesnt matter to me much but I always know when things are drying up for you marketing wise because you always start some sort of "DC training bashing" thread to get people looking at you again.
The absolutely funniest thing ive heard in a long time was a bodybuilding.com moderator telling me he traces the IP addresses and that you make up fake screen names over there to ask questions of yourself on your STS thread. Pretty pathetic....but hey thats been the name of the game for you for a number of years now hasnt it. Do you know why I dont ever put STS training down or any training system down thats out there?

I dont have to. I let the results of my opinions speak for me. Might want to take an hour to think about that Ronnie.

Dante Trudel, it's getting old going around the same stupid mountain with you over and over again. It's no secret that you have been going around telling lies about me in order to try and make your own self look good. Other than you and Dewayne's (IRONMAN'S) hoop-la, I can't figure out why you are so obssesed with me and Slingshot Training.

1) You got on muscular development back in the summer and lied by telling others I did not even know Tricky Jackson. If that makes you feel better about yourself then choose to believe that lie. If you'll go visit Tricky Jackson's website and click on Tricky's Training Secret you'll notice he mentions both my name and the Slingshot Training System.

2) I have never made a up another screen name at bodybuilding.com. Too prove my innocence I will e-mail a few mods on that board to prove I am indeed telling the truth. And I will ask them which mod made these false claims. My guess is that mod is a figment of your imagination. Another one of your lies, which by the way, you are getting really good at these days. I will contact the owner of the bodybuilding.com by phone if need be.


3) Lets get this Ironman dog crap straight once and for all! Dewayne-a bi-polar ex-friend on mine was Ironman. Before I could explain myself in full at pro muscle I was banned. I know you were behind this! Also, Ironman later told me that the controversy between you and him was done intentionally on both of your behalfs in order to bring attention to your training methods (One in which was my old training method- Ironman Hit that Dewayne stole and revised)! He also told me he paid you money to play along. Is that true? Could that be the reason you ended up in Flex magazine less than a year later? I WANT AN HONEST ANSWER HERE DANTE BUT DO NOT EXPECT TO GET ONE!!!!!

I've heard you charge $1500.00 upfront to train others. And I have been on this site helping others for free through pm's and e-mails but I'm the bad guy? You know nothing about me nor I you, but I will tell you this-from what I have seen you are in it for the money. You want to sit on a lofty pedestal. If it were me I'd be embarrased by some of these kids going around with the screen name Dante's Disciple. If someone started referring to themselves as Ronnie's Disciple I would kindly ask them to erase it. How ridiculous!

Dante, you are a great salesman and probably a good engineer but you have not trained others for a living like I have and an still doing. Meaning I have a great deal more experience than you when it comes to helping others. I'm not happy with the fact the only tendon tear I ever suffered was when I experimented with DC Training but I think it's evil of you to go around making up lies about me in order to cover up how my injury occured. Please answer my questions regarding you and Ironman and which mod at bb.com? This should be good!

In final, I know that extreme stretching, like isolation movements, can affect PG levels. My stand all a long has been that extreme stetching is hard on the rotator cuffs and does not stretch out the fascia to any noticeable degree. And a lot of people on this board including myself found it odd that you had IRONRELOAD delete his post in the link provided. http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=319238 Futhermore, I couldn't believe you had the nerve to ask me to erase my post in the STS vs DC debate in that same thread out of repect for you and Intense Muscle. I wasn't about to erase it after the way you've acted. In addition, I never stated the STS vs DC debate, I simply finished it.

[Doggcrapp]

Dante Trudel, it's getting old going around the same stupid mountain with you over and over again. It's no secret that you have been going around telling lies about me in order to try and make your own self look good. Other than you and Dewayne's (IRONMAN'S) hoop-la, I can't figure out why you are so obssesed with me and Slingshot Training.

Allright I'll answer your rambling diatribe in shorter fashion than you hopefully but I cannot promise. Per each question. Obsession is when you talk/think about someone constantly. You talk about DC training on every single thread you ever start Ronnie....and that goes back years and multiple sites=obsession. I dont give you a second thought until I get notified (once again for the 100th time) that "Ronnie Rowland is on "such and such" a site bashing your methods Dante".....and so I come over because I know when you bash me its because your marketing of STS/Ironman training system is hurting and you need a jumpstart, so I kick you in the pants because you deserve it and leave. Which I will do again with this because you deserve it. I have never seen a grown 40 year old something man just make up bullshit on the fly like you Ronnie, you are to be admired.

1) You got on muscular development back in the summer and lied by telling others I did not even know Tricky Jackson. If that makes you feel better about yourself then choose to believe that lie. If you'll go visit Tricky Jackson's website and click on Tricky's Training Secret you'll notice he mentions both my name and the Slingshot Training System.

Well I have to give you credit, that is much better than claiming you train Ronnie Coleman.....remember when you said that on Professional Muscle? That was a Ronnie Rowland Classic

2) I have never made a up another screen name at bodybuilding.com. Too prove my innocence I will e-mail a few mods on that board to prove I am indeed telling the truth. And I will ask them which mod made these false claims. My guess is that mod is a figment of your imagination. Another one of your lies, which by the way, you are getting really good at these days. I will contact the owner of the bodybuilding.com by phone if need be.

Im sure the Deluca's will be right on it.

3) Lets get this Ironman dog crap straight once and for all! Dewayne-a bi-polar ex-friend on mine was Ironman. Before I could explain myself in full at pro muscle I was banned. I know you were behind this! Also, Ironman later told me that the controversy between you and him was done intentionally on both of your behalfs in order to bring attention to your training methods (One in which was my old training method- Ironman Hit that Dewayne stole and revised)! He also told me he paid you money to play along. Is that true? Could that be the reason you ended up in Flex magazine less than a year later? I WANT AN HONEST ANSWER HERE DANTE BUT DO NOT EXPECT TO GET ONE!!!!!

A) I dont know how you cant understand this but let me explain it to you once again. YOUR IP ADDRESSES MATCHED. Do you know what that means Ronnie. It means that you and ironman are the same person. They matched on 2 different sites. I know you want to distance yourself from what you did in the past but its kind of impossible when your old screen name and your new screen name IP'S MATCH Ronnie.

B) Bring attention to my training methods?....hmmmm by having an argument with a fishing instructor from North Carolina that copies peoples ideas and claims them as his own. Ive been around since 1992 with the Hardcore Muscle Mag, its been 16 years bro.

C) I recieved money for an online argument?....LOLOL should I even respond to this? Let me think about this....I put all my ideas out there for free for people but according to Ronnie Rowland I want money for an online argument. Ronnie it might be time we get you a Catscan, all the dogs arent barking upstairs and the bullcrap meter is in the red. Ronnie I know you have been around only a couple years but Ive been doing my thing since 92. I was in Musclemag Intl in the 90's 2x, and every major newstand muscle mag since. What does that mean?...absolutely jack shit. I would rather be known for being the guy who found the key to curing cancer, which would be much more noteworthy and admirable. But the one Flex mag you read is 1/100th of what is out there. Why is that stuck in your craw?

I've heard you charge $1500.00 upfront to train others. And I have been on this site helping others for free through pm's and e-mails but I'm the bad guy? You know nothing about me nor I you, but I will tell you this-from what I have seen you are in it for the money. You want to sit on a lofty pedestal. If it were me I'd be embarrased by some of these kids going around with the screen name Dante's Disciple. If someone started referring to themselves as Ronnie's Disciple I would kindly ask them to erase it. How ridiculous!

A) I dont train people anymore (man you need to catch up with the times Ronnie)....and as for what people name their screennames....I got no control over....I never even personally trained that guy

Dante, you are a great salesman and probably a good engineer but you have not trained others for a living like I have and an still doing. Meaning I have a great deal more experience than you when it comes to helping others. I'm not happy with the fact the only tendon tear I ever suffered was when I experimented with DC Training but I think it's evil of you to go around making up lies about me in order to cover up how my injury occured. Please answer my questions regarding you and Ironman and which mod at bb.com? This should be good!

You tore your bicep on a preacher bench right in the middle of your 50 page thread (with matching IP addresses of (then) Ironman and (now) Slingshot) on proffesional muscle telling people to use the Ironman principles. Now we can look at this 2 ways
1) you were using your methods and tore your bicep which I am sorry to hear about (which I would not blame on your methods but more on the fact you were suffering from tendonitis like you stated on pro muscle, were liable for a tear from that prior injury, and suffered bad luck)

or

2) you were using my methods and tore your bicep which I am sorry to hear about (which I would not blame on my methods but more on the fact you were suffering from tendonitis like you stated on pro muscle, were liable for a tear from that prior injury, and suffered bad luck)<-----the problem with this scenario when you say it is...if you believed so largely in the Ironman/Slingshot training methods that you espoused to everyone why would you be using my methods at the time? Not a very good backing of your own system if you arent even training by your own methods.

In final, I know that extreme stretching, like isolation movements, can affect PG levels. My stand all a long has been that extreme stetching is hard on the rotator cuffs and does not stretch out the fascia to any noticeable degree. And a lot of people on this board including myself found it odd that you had IRONRELOAD delete his post in the link provided. http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=319238 Futhermore, I couldn't believe you had the nerve to ask me to erase my post in the STS vs DC debate in that same thread out of repect for you and Intense Muscle. I wasn't about to erase it after the way you've acted. In addition, I never stated the STS vs DC debate, I simply finished it.

HUH? What the heck are you talking about here? You are like the John Kerry of bodybuilding Ronnie...the ultimate Flip Flopper. Ronnie:"That doesnt work! Oh Uh it does work? Uhhh I know it does, I said it all along, I believe in it, but if you do it wrong it might not work is all I said" If you did the stretches correctly Ronnie which obviously you are not you would not be getting injured....you dont stretch with 150 pound dumbells in a crucifix position laying on a bench! You dont stretch to the point of injury.
On the last part....HUH?.... "I couldn't believe you had the nerve to ask me to erase my post in the STS vs DC debate".....what are you talking about? I asked you to do what? Lets make this simple shall we? You cut and paste a PM or email or anything from me to you asking you to erase a post (or whatever you are talking about here) and Ill send every single guy on this post 8 pounds of protein free.....I want to show everyone here how much of a bullshit artist you are and how you make scenario's up in your mind as you go. Cut and paste whatever this means--> "I couldn't believe you had the nerve to ask me to erase my post in the STS vs DC debate in that same thread out of repect for you and Intense Muscle"....my email, PM, or however I supposedly contacted you to do that. If its not up on this thread by the end of the day you have taken the cake as "Internet bullshit artist 2008"...well that would be 3 years running now wouldnt it?

[Ronnie Rowland]

Dante save your breath! I quit reading that garbage after the first lie I found. I don't have the time for childish games. It's obvious too me there will always be critics and angry people in general for whatever reason. Whether they be jealousy or have a bad home life. I am proud of my training system and those who are having success with my methods.

Below is a pm I got on bodybuilding.com from a well respected member! It proves once again you are just trying to make me look bad!!!
Ronnie[/QUOTE]
Well i searched your IPs and no one at your IPs is asking you questions. I would PM pogue or skippy, they may be able to help further[/QUOTE]

[BG]

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[UberSteroids]

Quite a story.

Thing is, it is not going anywhere. No matter what the outcome of this argument will be, it will not change the way I look at any of you or your training methods.

I think it's great that both of you are trying to help people get results.

Now, why don't you give each other a kiss and go lift some weights, would you?

[naturalsux]

Dante, i didnt take it as ronnie downing DC at all. ya ll are both good guys.IMO


can i have 8lbs of protein.

[Doggcrapp]

[B]Dante save your breath! I quit reading that garbage after the first lie I found. I don't have the time for childish games.

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You dont have time for this? But you have time for 3 page utterly long threads of STS training VS DC training? How do you think i found these threads? I was alerted to your bullcrap again by email and I came over here and BB.com and typed in Doggcrapp in the search engine. Lo and behold what comes up? There is Ronnie Rowland once again (just like the past 4 boards) on multiple threads trying to drum up publicity/notoriety for himself by using 'Doggcrapp' to do it. I dont ever see you talking about GVT, HST, Bulgarian Burst, Westside etc etc etc ever......so why the obsession? You explain it to everyone.

You dont have the time to shove it down my throat and make me eat my words? I was going to award everyone on this thread 8 pounds of protein sent to them on my dollar flavored and sweetened any way they want. What better way of owning my ass and making me shut up then simply showing everyone your proof!!! You said some statements up top...its easy...show them! These guys deserve some protein powder from me.

The sad part is you cant.... because yet again its untrue and yet again you type stuff out that is made up on the fly and look like a bullshit artist to the people reading here. Ronnie if your word means jack shit in life you really have nothing...nothing at all.

I told you this at professional muscle and ill tell you this again. I dont care if you blow up STS training into a multi billion dollar empire. More power if you do....I could give a crap. Even if it is a blatant ripoff of whatever you have read lately. The problem is I keep having people tell me that you continually use my name or my methods to try to better yourself/ further yourself ahead. Trust me in this, if you know your shit, your trainees results will speak volumes, their results will promote the Ronnie Rowland Training program you so desperately desire to become a household name. You dont get somewhere by bashing the other guy, you get somewhere by showing results. If you keep this crap up, and you have at 4 different boards now I'll continue to tell everyone your history of being a scam artist on principle.