tamoxifen can kill you

[Pooks]

u must be young

[RapaciousShark]

u must be young

It's part of my PCT. I got some lumpage and tried to kill it w/ letro. It didnt work for me. Anyway, now I'm off and I got a rebound I'm treating with the tamox. I lowered it to 20mg ed but the sensitivity came back so now I'm back up to 40mg.

My doc, who is unofficially advising me, tells me tamoxifen is not worth the risk and I should just let them grow then get 'em cut off. I mean, if he would suggest going through that just to avoid the drug, I gotta wonder wtf I'm taking. But apparently tons of you guys have taken it and turned out fine, so...

[longhorn814]

It's part of my PCT. I got some lumpage and tried to kill it w/ letro. It didnt work for me. Anyway, now I'm off and I got a rebound I'm treating with the tamox. I lowered it to 20mg ed but the sensitivity came back so now I'm back up to 40mg.

My doc, who is unofficially advising me, tells me tamoxifen is not worth the risk and I should just let them grow then get 'em cut off. I mean, if he would suggest going through that just to avoid the drug, I gotta wonder wtf I'm taking. But apparently tons of you guys have taken it and turned out fine, so...

well its probably the best selling drug used to treat breast cancer..sure it has sides as does everything, but i dont think its that bad..besides its not like youre gonna stay on nolva for years and years..gyno surgery is definitely something i wouldnt want to mess with though..

[meathead320]

The reason your gyno came back, when you dropped the dose, could be that you are actually increasing total circulating E2 with the Nolva.

It does that. It blocks it at the receptor, however leads to a higher build up of total E2, that remains in your system for a long time, as it cannot get broken down by binding to receptors, as the Nolva is blocking that.

Sooo, you may feel like shite when you lower the dose, and even when stopping use at the end of PCT, it could flood back into the hypothalimus, shutting it right off again.

Hence why I dissagree with using only SERMs as PCT, and why I think a 1 week course of an AI, liquidex being my fav, should be ran at about 0.25mg ED, for 7 days.

This drops E2 down to almost nothing, but it is only for 1 week. After that it will go back to normal within a week, but without the flood back like when you stop a SERM.

BTW, 10mg of Nolva can be plenty. The 40mg stuff is often 4x higher than is used to treat Breast cancer, and likely, as with a lot of things, we use too much.

10mg ED of Nolva, if you are side prone, for 21 days, followed with a 7 day course of arimidex could be very effective.

Best to do blood work and find out how well, or lack there of, the pct is doing at getting the hypothalimus working again.

That is the goal, once it is making good amounts of LH and FSH again, the testes will respond in kind.

[RapaciousShark]

The reason your gyno came back, when you dropped the dose, could be that you are actually increasing total circulating E2 with the Nolva.

It does that. It blocks it at the receptor, however leads to a higher build up of total E2, that remains in your system for a long time, as it cannot get broken down by binding to receptors, as the Nolva is blocking that.

Sooo, you may feel like shite when you lower the dose, and even when stopping use at the end of PCT, it could flood back into the hypothalimus, shutting it right off again.

Hence why I dissagree with using only SERMs as PCT, and why I think a 1 week course of an AI, liquidex being my fav, should be ran at about 0.25mg ED, for 7 days.

This drops E2 down to almost nothing, but it is only for 1 week. After that it will go back to normal within a week, but without the flood back like when you stop a SERM.

BTW, 10mg of Nolva can be plenty. The 40mg stuff is often 4x higher than is used to treat Breast cancer, and likely, as with a lot of things, we use too much.

10mg ED of Nolva, if you are side prone, for 21 days, followed with a 7 day course of arimidex could be very effective.

Best to do blood work and find out how well, or lack there of, the pct is doing at getting the hypothalimus working again.

That is the goal, once it is making good amounts of LH and FSH again, the testes will respond in kind.

That makes sense to me...how do the rest of you guys feel about this?