tamoxifen can kill you

[PT]

well im glad you posted this and i thank you. alot of people have an "i dont care" attitude but im not one of them. im going to do alot of research on this over the next few days and decide what to use in its place and if there sides are as bad. i have been in this game for a long time and i knew the sides of most of this gear but i never knew this and i thank you for the heads up

[AaronJM1984]

First of all bodybuilding is not necessarily a healthy lifestyle, sure we may eat healthy and train hard, sleep well, but bodybuilding isn't about being healthy, it's about pushing your body to extremes. If you don't want to push your body to extremes then you shouldn't be using gear, you should stay natural. IMO AAS, PH's, Pro Steroids, SERMS, even supplements will probably wind up ending my life a few years before it would if I never took any of these things. The point is I am willing to push myself farther than I could naturally, even if that means I kick the bucket at 70 instead of 80. The way I see it, I have one life to live, I am going to live how I want, I am going to have a certain lifestyle, indulge in the things I enjoy. Now I'm not saying I will blindly take chemicals that can do permanent damage, but you have to weigh the pros and cons. If Tamox is given to woman for breast cancer on a regular basis then that leads me to believe that all of these life threatening sides are VERY rare, and probably associated in longtime abuse and use. Bro you're only using it for 3-4 weeks. IMO chemicals you should be weary about using are things such as Clen, and Allbuterol. Hell look at all these prescription drugs and their sides, you guys ever hear of Accutane (acne medicine) you know one of the rare sides of that stuff is rectal bleeding, LOL bet if you knew that, you'd think twice about using it. Guess what though, the only reason they have to report such sides is because there has been atleast 1 report of it happening, one report out of like 10,000,000 times used.

[RapaciousShark]

First of all bodybuilding is not necessarily a healthy lifestyle, sure we may eat healthy and train hard, sleep well, but bodybuilding isn't about being healthy, it's about pushing your body to extremes. If you don't want to push your body to extremes then you shouldn't be using gear, you should stay natural. IMO AAS, PH's, Pro Steroids, SERMS, even supplements will probably wind up ending my life a few years before it would if I never took any of these things. The point is I am willing to push myself farther than I could naturally, even if that means I kick the bucket at 70 instead of 80. The way I see it, I have one life to live, I am going to live how I want, I am going to have a certain lifestyle, indulge in the things I enjoy. Now I'm not saying I will blindly take chemicals that can do permanent damage, but you have to weigh the pros and cons. If Tamox is given to woman for breast cancer on a regular basis then that leads me to believe that all of these life threatening sides are VERY rare, and probably associated in longtime abuse and use. Bro you're only using it for 3-4 weeks. IMO chemicals you should be weary about using are things such as Clen, and Allbuterol. Hell look at all these prescription drugs and their sides, you guys ever hear of Accutane (acne medicine) you know one of the rare sides of that stuff is rectal bleeding, LOL bet if you knew that, you'd think twice about using it. Guess what though, the only reason they have to report such sides is because there has been atleast 1 report of it happening, one report out of like 10,000,000 times used.

BTW, the risk of clotting is highest during the first month of taking the drug, then your blood adjusts. I didnt read HOW that happens, but next time I'll site some sources.

[RapaciousShark]

well im glad you posted this and i thank you. alot of people have an "i dont care" attitude but im not one of them. im going to do alot of research on this over the next few days and decide what to use in its place and if there sides are as bad. i have been in this game for a long time and i knew the sides of most of this gear but i never knew this and i thank you for the heads up

Bro my leg is jacked and if it's a blood clot then it could embolize and kill me in a matter of minutes. Yeah, maybe i'm trippin' out, but like I said, Tamoxifen CAN kill you. I'm glad someone is taking the decision to use this drug more seriously. I wish the best of luck to you in your risk management and search for alternatives.


Back to my question....can I use adex to get out of this mess? I was thinking I'd deal with the consequences and use a little bit of adex eod to curb the rebound, then just get surgery. 'Better'n bein dead.

[daem]

Bro my leg is jacked and if it's a blood clot then it could embolize and kill me in a matter of minutes. Yeah, maybe i'm trippin' out, but like I said, Tamoxifen CAN kill you. I'm glad someone is taking the decision to use this drug more seriously. I wish the best of luck to you in your risk management and search for alternatives.

Good luck...I'd go to the ER now if you are that concerned...Don't wait if you think it is really a clot.