Delts help

[green22]

Voland, you can work shoulders twice a week but I would say you do risk overtraining them. Especialy if your training chest durring the week. With all due respect I diagree with with Binder when he says that if you feel shoulders on chest day then your not doing it right. If you are inclineing and not fatigueing your shoulders then I say your lying. Its just the mechanics of the movement, front delts are worked. Also he stated that if ya gonna do heavy then do only heavy that day and the same with light days. I disagree with that too. Pyramid in weight has be around for ever and is very effective. for example. 4 sets at 12, 10, 8 and 6 reps. If you want to do high rep days thats fine too. Just dont let him confuse you.

[Voland]

Voland, you can work shoulders twice a week but I would say you do risk overtraining them. Especialy if your training chest durring the week. With all due respect I diagree with with Binder when he says that if you feel shoulders on chest day then your not doing it right. If you are inclineing and not fatigueing your shoulders then I say your lying. Its just the mechanics of the movement, front delts are worked. Also he stated that if ya gonna do heavy then do only heavy that day and the same with light days. I disagree with that too. Pyramid in weight has be around for ever and is very effective. for example. 4 sets at 12, 10, 8 and 6 reps. If you want to do high rep days thats fine too. Just dont let him confuse you.

I see. Both of you seem to agree that 15 reps when trying to go for mass is too much and 4 reps is too little. So that one is clear.

On the other hand i do feel my front delts when doing inclines. Still front raises are to be done?