Ok, time to clear the air on AAS use for those under 25

[KimboHalfSlice]

Here's a question that will probably get a few condescending responses:

Is it really that big a deal to f*** up your HPTA?

From what I understand, it just means you've to take a shot of Sustanon once a month. Given that I'm currently taking shots of Sustanon every 3 days, every month doesn't seem like too bad of an inconvenience.

And as everyone says, whether you use steroids or not, you're gonna end up with a low testosterone level when you're older, so all you're doing is bringing a problem sooner.

I have to say though, one shot per month wouldn't be a big deal at all for me.

[Papa Smurf]

Here's a question that will probably get a few condescending responses:

Is it really that big a deal to f*** up your HPTA?

From what I understand, it just means you've to take a shot of Sustanon once a month. Given that I'm currently taking shots of Sustanon every 3 days, every month doesn't seem like too bad of an inconvenience.

And as everyone says, whether you use steroids or not, you're gonna end up with a low testosterone level when you're older, so all you're doing is bringing a problem sooner.

I have to say though, one shot per month wouldn't be a big deal at all for me.

HMMMMMMMMMMMM....... Were to begin!

TRT is NOT a once a month shot my friend! If you knew anything about Test Esters at all you wouldnt make that statement and Sustanon, dont get me started.

TRT/HRT is all about getting and keeping a NORMAL test level in your system.
Most doctors have you inject once every 2 weeks. This will cause your levels to peak and valley and its like riding an emotional rollercoaster. Most of us shot our TRT dose once a week to keep levels stable.

Getting older doesnt mean you will need replacement therapy at all. Lots of older men have no low test issues at all. They are lucky. TRT is for life. Sticking a needle in my ass once a week from now on is not the retirement I had in mind. But...... it does work, and Im glad I found out about it.

And YES...... Its a REALLY BIG DEAL to F**KUP your HPTA. Unless of course you enjoy walking around with a limp dick for the rest of your life!

[seriousmass]

while I see what your trying to say here,it just isnt fact and 100%true. I agree one should "probably" wait until they peaked naturally before ever juicing but who wants to wait that long...really?it all comes down to being smart. and yes there is an inherited risk with what we do,before you even start you need ot accept it or find something else to make you happy.

DevilDog, I completely agree with you. It's actually refreshing to see a VET, who can relate, and understands that the vast majority of AAS users do not want to max out their natural potential, and then juice. For most people the concept of getting to 200 pounds naturally and then juicing is comical.

And YES...... Its a REALLY BIG DEAL to F**KUP your HPTA. Unless of course you enjoy walking around with a limp dick for the rest of your life!

The problem is that their is so much wrong info out their. PapaSmurf, I respect your passion regarding TRT, but honestly, you portray it completely wrong. Do you walk around with a limp dick on TRT? -- no. (unless on deca, etc).... so let's not exaggerate the truth here..

As previously stated, the worst thing you can do your body is damage your HPTA during ages (18 - 22).... but IMO, it's is NOT through just using steroids, that is through using steroids ABUSIVELY / INCORRECTLY. Therefore, it is truly my belief that if we at least educate people on the topic, and teach them how to properly run a cycle, less people will go out and run Deca only cycles.

[Critical Mass]

Couldnt agree more,better to wait. I was 16 when I did my first cycle and did another right after,no pct. Messed up my head for a long time.

[ajweb]

hey omna...who is the dude is ur avatar..freaking stacked

Couldnt agree more,better to wait. I was 16 when I did my first cycle and did another right after,no pct. Messed up my head for a long time.

[Critical Mass]

hey omna...who is the dude is ur avatar..freaking stacked

Jay Cutler 15 days out from Mr.O. 2008 I think.

[Immortal Soldier]

First of all, you grew up in a completely different time-period. The internet wasn't even invented probably when you began cycling. The newfound spread of info has allowed for people to at least get SOLID information on how to run a proper cycle, while doing the least amount of damage to their HPTA / bodies.

So explain to us why, since you are from the "internet age" and you came to this board with all this information that we fed you yet you still ran back to back cycles.

So that goes to show you even those who support the notion (You) that waiting till 25 is too much, cannot even cycle properly. Kind of ironic is it not? That you talk all this big talk about how there is so information and sites like this that will help people cycle properly and limit any damage to the HPTA, yet using you as a case example shows thats not true.

Now see there are two types of steroid users on this board:

There are the ones who have done 5+ cycles and are barely over 200lbs

Then there are the ones who have done 2-3 cycles and have MAXIMIZED their potential.

Hell in my first cycle I blew away most people who are on their 3rd or 4th even 5th cycle. And alot of these people weren't old or anything, they are 21 or 22-23 and they have ran that many cycles.