Current Natural Progress

[FireGuy]

I believe it gives the individual a sense of close personal attention.I'm trying to make a difference in people,some say they want to reach there goal I say I'm gonna make sure of it.

#2 It provokes thought as this high jacked thread fully demonstrates.







Refer to BG quote.



Agreed,there has been dealer solicitation beware.


Noted.



I'm solicited several times a month from members who want my guidance not personal information.

Let me set the record straight.I like "Taking people under my wing"because it gives me a sense of accomplishment that I raised your quality of life through something so demanding of the individual it turns you into a better person.Raising moral,self respect and discipline.Your gonna really know what your made of when achieving something great that you never thought was possible. Especially when it's done naturally,DRUG FREE.If the way I do things is considered wrong your certainly entitled to your opinion.

Please remember you are talking to a guy who competed for nearly 2 decades 100% DRUG FREE. I actually dont have any problems with the advice you have given and agree with most of what you say.My concern is that it has gone from advice to more of "self promotion". I have prepped many individuals for many contests but you will not see me using the forums as a platform to promote myself. Nark has probably whipped more people into shape and made more physique transformations than he can remember but we dont see him doing this either.

I think you bring a lot to the table and I hope you continue to post. I think you will find you will be much better received if you quit with the "listen only to me" type of statements.

[MuscleScience]

Please remember you are talking to a guy who competed for nearly 2 decades 100% DRUG FREE. I actually dont have any problems with the advice you have given and agree with most of what you say.My concern is that it has gone from advice to more of "self promotion". I have prepped many individuals for many contests but you will not see me using the forums as a platform to promote myself. Nark has probably whipped more people into shape and made more physique transformations than he can remember but we dont see him doing this either.

I think you bring a lot to the table and I hope you continue to post. I think you will find you will be much better received if you quit with the "listen only to me" type of statements.

I agree with fireguy, it is concerning when it seems someone has other motives other than simply helping. I am not specifically talking about you dedi8acted1. People with knowledge and respect have a higher responsibility to the lay person as they are very impressionable and can easily be led astray. That is probable the only issue that is concerning with respect to private advice and the only listen to me approach. Not to say that in pm's one can't give advice, it is more transparent to the rest of the community if the larger part of the advice is given in open. So that if any issue ever arises everyone can get the full picture as to what was said and advice given which only protects everyone concerned if a misunderstanding ever occurs. I am speaking in generalities here and am in no way trying to single anyone out. I am more concerned with everyone having a safe environment with sound advise on health and fitness.

[dedic8ed1]

Please remember you are talking to a guy who competed for nearly 2 decades 100% DRUG FREE. I actually dont have any problems with the advice you have given and agree with most of what you say.My concern is that it has gone from advice to more of "self promotion". I have prepped many individuals for many contests but you will not see me using the forums as a platform to promote myself. Nark has probably whipped more people into shape and made more physique transformations than he can remember but we dont see him doing this either.

I think you bring a lot to the table and I hope you continue to post. I think you will find you will be much better received if you quit with the "listen only to me" type of statements.

Should I let you know when another member pm's me to counsel them to achieve there goal and ask your permission if I'm allowed to help?.... Better received?I think my reception is fine...Clearly I've ruffled your feathers if your comparing me to your self and Corey Springer?I'll never accomplish in bodybuilding competitively what you have or what Corey has and still may in the future.I'm just a working class mundane,humble single dad who enjoys helping people achieve difficult goals by inspiring and advising in my own way.If in some way the way I do things has ruffled your feathers I can't apologize for that.All I can say is that this is my way and I'm gonna continue to help others my way.

I would like to apologize to srebrenica for this drama on his thread.

Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bigmax]

Please remember you are talking to a guy who competed for nearly 2 decades 100% DRUG FREE. I actually dont have any problems with the advice you have given and agree with most of what you say.My concern is that it has gone from advice to more of "self promotion". I have prepped many individuals for many contests but you will not see me using the forums as a platform to promote myself. Nark has probably whipped more people into shape and made more physique transformations than he can remember but we dont see him doing this either.

I think you bring a lot to the table and I hope you continue to post. I think you will find you will be much better received if you quit with the "listen only to me" type of statements.

I agree with Fireguy 100%....