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[VASCULAR VINCE]

ronnie..this makes no sense..please explain...why do so many people say to stop using test-e 4 weeks out from a show.... if the active life is only 7-8 days??? wouldnt keeping in test-e until 10-14 days out help preserve muscle... and still give ample time for water to be gone bye bye???? kinda confused bigron!

[VASCULAR VINCE]

ronnie...how much faster does test propionate kick in than test enanthate???some on this site are saying it takes up to 3 weeks before test-e to kick in.. while prop takes only a day???correct???

[VASCULAR VINCE]

ronnie....wouldn't it be counter productive to do a massive shit load before pre-judging??? would not this cause a distented belly?????

[VASCULAR VINCE]

one last question bigron...is it growth hormone..insulin..eating tons of food..that causes the distented gut of most heavy weights these days..and do you prefer this look or the 80's look???

[Ronnie Rowland]

one last question bigron...is it growth hormone..insulin..eating tons of food..that causes the distented gut of most heavy weights these days..and do you prefer this look or the 80's look???

All of the above in the following order:

1) Overeating- as it permanently stretches out the fascia in the stomach-hence causing the abs to become permanently separated. Only a plastic surgeon can fix this problem once it occurs.

2) Insulin

3) GH

NOTE: The bodybuilder's of the 1980's looked much better in my opinion. Today's over sized legs and distended guts is not appealing too me. It takes away from the upper body (beach muscles) that attracted most of us to the sport to begin with.

[Ronnie Rowland]

ronnie....wouldn't it be counter productive to do a massive shit load before pre-judging??? would not this cause a distented belly?????

Only a small one is best for most people because a lot of food is going to cause your belly to swell.

[Ronnie Rowland]

ronnie....wouldn't it be counter productive to do a massive shit load before pre-judging??? would not this cause a distented belly?????Only one small sized load is best for most people because a lot of food is going to cause their belly to swell.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

ronnie...how much faster does test propionate kick in than test enanthate???i think you are confused my friend. Test prop actually kicks in slower than test enanthate not the other way around. What prop does is clear your system sooner but it kicks in slower than enanthate. some on this site are saying it takes up to 3 weeks before test-e to kick in.. Not true! But, it can take that long for some to begin feeling the full-effects while prop takes only a day???correct???
Testosterone propionate: Maximal testosterone levels in the supraphysiological range where seen 14 hours after injection!

Test enanthate or cypionate: Maximal range where seen "only" 10 hours after injection!

Reference from the book Testosterone Action Deficiency Substitution 2nd edition, Chapter 11 Comparative pharmacokinetics of testosterone esters page 333 and page 335.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

ronnie..this makes no sense..please explain...why do so many people say to stop using test-e 4 weeks out from a show....It's because their logic is misconscrewed somewhat! They often switch over to test prop doing frequent painful injections, thinking it will somehow cause less water retention but that's not the case! Test is test! if the active life is only 7-8 days??? wouldnt keeping in test-e until 10-14 days out help preserve muscle...I would think the smartest bodybuilders would. Why remove the very compound so early in the prep that made you big/hard to begin with!? and still give ample time for water to be gone bye bye???? kinda confused bigron! Test Enanthate has an active life of 8 days so the water bloat will begin to leave starting day nine. Test prop has an active life of 2 days so the water bloat will begin to leave by day 3. So, it makes no difference which test you use before a show given you stop it soon enough to allow water retention to subside. Also, when using letro at 2.5 mgs per day there would be little to no water retention to begin with as the letro basically turns all forms of test into a non-aromatizing steroid.

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