for Newbs - Read this before using AAS

[dec11]

horses for courses as the saying goes...........I'd rather tell a newb to start low. Who I'm aiming at are those determined youngsters who have already made their mind up to use, and have very little training and jump onto gear straight away.

I read all the time on forums about young guys who've only done a cycle or two, and are already impotent, or infertile. Or complaining because they 'only' gained 20lbs on their first cycle...wtf...these people have no idea of the strain on their heart that's caused by increasing their body weight 10% in just 10 weeks. Taking AAS isn't just about size, but gaining so while reducing the risks as much as poss.

I agree with alot of what you are all saying here, I see your logic if for a 30/40 year old starting first cycle...but not a 21 year old....and I know it's wrong to start that young, but they do. A person who started at 21 on 500mg, and 400 mg deca....they're likely to end up taking grams of the stuff 5 years later.

High doses first off to me seems like they're relying too much on the gear alone to realise their goals.

This is my opinion, this is a free thinking forum. I'm still learning after 15 years, but I could still get it up, and father kids ten years later......that's all I'm saying.

by recommending oral only cycles of adrol? not suitable advice in my book

[rbg]

by recommending oral only cycles of adrol? not suitable advice in my book

I certainly wouldn't recommend taking adrol with something else on the other hand...but that's me. To me adrol is only good for the transition to injectables, it's too strong. I agree to disagree. I appreciate the feedback here though.

[rbg]

I just want to add for clarification, that I'm not suggesting a person continue to remain on a low dose of 250mg test cyp per week, cycle after cycle.

This is not what I'm getting at at all, but just to start on a low dose. 4 cycles on less that 300mg per week each time isn't ideal at all....but gradual increases with each cycle is what I'm advocating. Try low to begin with first cycle. When the gains stop, then increase the dose.

I've known too many guys who started on high doses, and then continue to increase that dose until they end up taking horrendous amounts of it. I know people who have diabetic glaucoma as a result of the all the gear they take - they're huge but blind as a bat!!!

My point is this..if a person is serious about training, and plans to do it for most of their adult life...why is their such a rush to start on so high a dose, and even stacking first off....? I feel there is a culture among the young BB that there is too much of a reliance on the gear alone to reach their goal. To me it seems they want it all too quick at times.