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[dirtysouth]

Clomid and nolva is not going to do much of anything positive to get your testis producing again during 2 week deloads. You need to think-HCG! Some people run HCG at 500 per week through 2 weekly injections throughout entire cycle (both reloads and deloads) or wait unitl you come off to run a full pct at higher dosages for around 2-3 weeks.. During 2 week deloads you should stay on low dosages of test but hcg and nolva can be added during that 2 week period.

Ok so will continue with the test, im currently running 750mgs a week. What will I lower it too during the deload considering im using sustanon 250? And then what would I ramp it back up too along witht the tren a dosage ( I have never used tren before keep in mind )? One last thing when I start my full blown pct at the end of the test tren cycle what would consider as far as dosages for hcg clomd and nolva and for how long considering my cycles length over the past 6 months? Thank u so much for ur help, I really appreciate it.

[VASCULAR VINCE]

question ronnie...as i progresses as a bodybuilder...must i continue getting stronger.. to keep getting larger msucles???

[Ronnie Rowland]

question ronnie...as i progresses as a bodybuilder...must i continue getting stronger.. to keep getting larger msucles.

No Vince..LOL..You do not have to keep getting stronger inorder to continue get bigger. Jay Cutler has not gained any strength for the past two years and he's bigger than ever! ONLY POWERLIFTER"S ARE REQUIRED TO LIFT MORE AND MORE WEIGHT. BODYBUILDING IS ABOUT LOOKING GOOD WHICH REQUIRES WORKING THE MUSCLES WITH TIME-UNDER-TENSION NOT NECCESARILY LIFTING HEAVY WEIGHTS EVEN THOUGH SOME CAN DUE TO THEIR THICK TENDONS, LARGE MUSCLES AND BIOMECHANICS...So, What is required for bodybuilding is time-under- tension and being consistent with workouts, diet and anabolics. When you perform enough volume using good form the muscle become stimulated to grow. Over time they will grow. Striving to always lift more weight as you become more and more advanced can be one the worst thing you can do as a bodybuilder because it brings forth injury and frustration. More volume and impeccable form to increase time-under-tension is the secret at that juncture! However, as a beginner making some strength gains are more important.

[Tom Bodo]

i startet growth 2 days ago. I'm bloating pretty much, feeling tired after injects and getting extremely hungry for a couple of hours after the injects. I think these feelings are normal right? it can be because it causes a little water retention upfront and messing with your blood sugar levels. It should level off in 4 weeks or so,.
But then i also feel a significant increase in libido. I'm sort of feeling, that i did double up my test dose. Did you notice something similar on growth? gh increases sex drive for some people!

I'm very glad to hear from you, that the bloat will level off sooner or later. I got 6 labs of water the first 3 days. Specially the face is looking sick.

I did cut down the carbs and upped the water intake. I guess the only thing that really helps is some lasix right? Or do you have some other advice?

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=Tom Bodo;5642304]I'm very glad to hear from you, that the bloat will level off sooner or later. I got 6 labs of water the first 3 days. Specially the face is looking sick.

I did cut down the carbs and upped the water intake. I guess the only thing that really helps is some lasix right? DON'T MESS WITH LASIX AS IT CAN BE DANGEROUS! Or do you have some other advice? WHAT COMPOUNDS ARE YOU RUNNING IN ADDITION TO THE GROWTH AND IS THE GROWTH PHARM GRADE OR SOME KIND OF GENERIC SUCH AS BLUE TOPS? YOU SHOULD NOT BE SWELLING THAT BAD ON REAL GH![/QUOTE]

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[delta1111]

???No Vince..LOL..You do not have to keep getting stronger inorder to continue get bigger. Jay Cutler has not gained any strength for the past two years and he's bigger than ever! What is required for bodybuilding is time-under- tension and being consistent with workouts, diet and anabolics. When you perform enough volume using good form the muscle become stimulated to grow. Over time they will grow. Striving to always lift more weight as you become more and more advanced can be one the worst thing you can do as a bodybuilder because it brings forth injury and frustration. More volume and impeccable form to increase time-under-tension is the secret at that juncture! However, as a beginner making some strength gains are more important.

Interesting, I always thought that muscle size and strength were relative and have always used strength as one of the means of measuring my progress. Thanks for clearing that up Ronnie and good question VV.
I still am still pretty weak when I compare some of my lifts to other people's. Does this mean I will not get much stronger than I am now and will I always be behind others in terms of strength?

[Ronnie Rowland]

Interesting, I always thought that muscle size and strength were relative and have always used strength as one of the means of measuring my progress. Thanks for clearing that up Ronnie and good question VV.
I still am still pretty weak when I compare some of my lifts to other people's. Does this mean I will not get much stronger than I am now and will I always be behind others in terms of strength? It's hard to say but if you start out behind most people in strength and/or muscle size they will always stay ahead of you given they do similar things inside and outside the gym. For example, there are many people out there who have made just as much progress as Ronnie Coleman in terms of adding muscle and gaining strength but he started out so far ahead of them in the beginnning that they will never be able to catch up. If someone has big diamond shaped calves like Dorian Yates, then someone like myself who was born with tiny high calves will never be able to catch him! Make sense? You will only get so strong given your genetic potential, then you have to focus on other avenuse to gain more size. [U]There are 6 ways to increase muscle growth. 1) Gain strength 2) Add more volume/time-under-tension. 3) Add intensity 4) Being consistent with training for many years. 5) Increasing calories 6) Increase anabolics [/U]

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[Ronnie Rowland]

interesting, i always thought that muscle size and strength were relative and have always used strength as one of the means of measuring my progress. Thanks for clearing that up ronnie and good question vv.
I still am still pretty weak when i pare some of my lifts to other people's. Does this mean i will not get much stronger than i am now and will i always be behind others in terms of strength? delta i already answered this question you must have missed it! Like i stated before if you are considerably weaker than your peers after 3 months of solid training you are fighting against genetics. Meaning you won't catch them on strength given they are doing similar as you. They started out ahead of you in this area and if you and all your peers at the gym add 100 lbs to your bench press in a 2 year period they will still be ahead of you in strength because they started out ahead of you in the race for strength. Don't try and force strength gains or you will tear up your tendons! It's the guys who can lift the most that have the thickest tendons and most durable tendons due to the extra thickness and/or insertions. Focus on muscle stimulation. You are not a powerlifter nor do you have the genetics to be one from what you aer saying. for example: My 48 year old wife is stronger than most guys in our gym due to her genetics. She can do 2-45 lb plates on each side on flat bench press in perfect form for 8 repetitions. She does squats with 3-45 lbs plates and 1-25 lb plate on each side of the bar for 8 reps in perfect form. She only weighs 156 lbs right now. You see what i mean? She almost as strong as me on upper body and her lower body is stronger..lol..

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[delta1111]

interesting, i always thought that muscle size and strength were relative and have always used strength as one of the means of measuring my progress. Thanks for clearing that up ronnie and good question vv.
I still am still pretty weak when i pare some of my lifts to other people's. Does this mean i will not get much stronger than i am now and will i always be behind others in terms of strength? delta i already answered this question you must have missed it! Like i stated before if you are considerably weaker than your peers after 3 months of solid training you are fighting against genetics. Meaning you won't catch them on strength given they are doing similar as you. They started out ahead of you in this area and if you and all your peers at the gym add 100 lbs to your bench press in a 2 year period they will still be ahead of you in strength because they started out ahead of you in the race for strength. Don't try and force strength gains or you will tear up your tendons! It's the guys who can lift the most that have the thickest tendons and most durable tendons due to the extra thickness and/or insertions. Focus on muscle stimulation. You are not a powerlifter nor do you have the genetics to be one from what you aer saying. for example: My 48 year old wife is stronger than most guys in our gym due to her genetics. She can do 2-45 lb plates on each side on flat bench press in perfect form for 8 repetitions. She does squats with 3-45 lbs plates and 1-25 lb plate on each side of the bar for 8 reps in perfect form. She only weighs 156 lbs right now. You see what i mean? She almost as strong as me on upper body and her lower body is stronger..lol..

Many thanks for the reply Ronnie, sorry I missed your earlier reply.
I understand your logic that I will always be behind someone else in strength, who continues to train for as long as I do and is currently stronger than me. I am now 41 years old and have been training for about 4 years now. My bench is similar to your wife's (sounds very strong btw) 2 plates on each side for 8-10 reps then I drop the weight on further sets. I would like to get to 3 plates, but have been stuck where I am now for ages. Does it seem feasible for someone of my age and experience to get any stronger than I am now? or should I just stay where i'm at?

[morado02]

Hi Ronnie:

I read your post about carbs cycling, and you said that for a guy 150gr of carbs on low days are good enough, but what a about on a girl? that usually eats a diet based on 1350-1500cal?

Thanks

[Ronnie Rowland]

ok so will continue with the test, im currently running 750mgs a week. What will i lower it too during the deload considering im using sustanon 250? do 1 shot per week which is 250 mgs per week of sustanon.and then what would i ramp it back up too along witht the tren a dosage ( i have never used tren before keep in mind )? keep test the same (750 per week) and do around 300 mgs of tren per week.one last thing when i start my full blown pct at the end of the test tren cycle what would consider as far as dosages for hcg clomd and nolva and for how long considering my cycles length over the past 6 months? Thank u so much for ur help, i really appreciate it. i would take hcg at 2500 ius eod for 2 weeks. Take 50 mgs twice a day of clomid for 4 weeks and 20mgs of nolvadex once a day for 4 weeks

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[dirtysouth]

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Your awesome man, I truly appreciate you taking the time to answer.

[morado02]

Hi Ronnie:

I'd like to ask you, what about a female doing this system?

How would it be doing it with Primo? for a 30 y/o female

Thanks

[ridedivefx]

Hi Ronnie,

I am on my 2nd reload, 3rd week in of test 750/week, EQ 600/week and proviron 50mg/day.

Everything was good during the 1st reload but I suddenly have seem to have lost all appetite right now. I though EQ was supposed to increase hunger. Is this normal? What could the reason be?

This lack of appetite has me eating less, and is affecting energy/strength in gym? Well I have not had a significant increase in strength compared to 1st reload. I am lifting the same if not a marginally more but with better form. Am I loosing muscle?

Thanks

[ridedivefx]

Hi Ronnie,

I am on my 2nd reload, 3rd week in of test 750/week, EQ 600/week and proviron 50mg/day.

Everything was good during the 1st reload but I suddenly have seem to have lost all appetite right now. I though EQ was supposed to increase hunger. Is this normal? What could the reason be?

This lack of appetite has me eating less, and is affecting energy/strength in gym? Well I have not had a significant increase in strength compared to 1st reload. I am lifting the same if not a marginally more but with better form. Am I loosing muscle?

Thanks

Hi Ron, You may have missed this post among a whole bunch of other questions. When you get a chance would like to hear from you

Thanks

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hi Ron, You may have missed this post among a whole bunch of other questions. When you get a chance would like to hear from you

ThankHi Ronnie,

I am on my 2nd reload, 3rd week in of test 750/week, EQ 600/week and proviron 50mg/day.

Everything was good during the 1st reload but I suddenly have seem to have lost all appetite right now. I though EQ was supposed to increase hunger. Is this normal? What could the reason be?

This lack of appetite has me eating less, and is affecting energy/strength in gym? Well I have not had a significant increase in strength compared to 1st reload. I am lifting the same if not a marginally more but with better form. Am I loosing muscle? You are not losing muscle if you are maintaining your body weight and/or strength but I can tell you what is going on- It's the Equipoise! Even though it's taunted as increasing the appetite, it can also have the reverse effect of destroying one's appetite. Everytime I tried it I got anxious and could not eat. If you can't eat you can't grow. The same rule applies to Anadrol! Go off the EQ and increase your test to 1.5 grams per week and you should see much better gains.s

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[Ronnie Rowland]

hi ronnie:

I'd like to ask you, what about a female doing this system?

How would it be doing it with primo? For a 30 y/o female [b]with tabs have her take 50 mgs daily during first 8 week reload. First deload take 25 mgs daily. During second 8 week reload she can increase primobolan to 75-100 mgs daily. Finish 20 week cycle with 2 week deload consiting of 25 mgs of primo daily. if injectable primobolan is used inject it once a week and keep dosages the same as is listed for tabs ( 1st reload 50 mgs weekly, 1st deload 25 mgs weekly/2nd reload 75-100 mgs weekly, 2nd deload 25 mgs weekly. [/b]
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