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[kml999]

Ronnie i finally did bw and this is the comparison of my natural baseline, after cycle and after my 2nd pct:

my baseline (natural)
estradiol 1.7 pg/ml (men <62pg/ml)
LH 4.81 mIU/ml (male 2-12)
FSH 4.06 mIU/ml (1.0-8.0)
Total test 3.51 (3.0-10.6)

after cycle:
estradiol 78.76 (7.63-42.6)
LH 2.23 (1.7-8.6)
FSH 1.56 (1.5-12.4)
Total test 1.55 (2.8-8.0)

after 2nd pct
estradiol 69.14 (7.63-42.6)
LH 2.51 (1.7-8.6)
FSH 2.21 (1.5-12.4)
Total test 1.67 (2.8-8.0)

my last pct was 3wks of 20 nolva and 50 clomid. aromasin came late and only used it for 3 days (25mg, 12.5,12.5) and ONE time usage of letro of around 1-1.2mg. was aiming 4wks pct, but had to do a surgery if you remember. BW was done 1 month after last pct dose!

it seems my estro went down a bit but shouldnt it go lower then that since i used one shot of letro? my lh/fsh slightly improved, but not much and i think i should give hcg a try? am dealing with a diff doc since the previous endo drove me crazy and thought i had a tumor either in my adernal gland or scrotum. already did a scrotum ultrasound and did a CT scan for the abdominal area to check liver,kidney,adernal gland, stomach, bladder, bancereas, prosate, lower part of the lungs...etc and all came good. except some fat deposits on the liver which i believe from lack of excersize (doc said thats no issue and its reversable once i start excersizing and following a proper diet).

whats next? 2wks of aromasin 25mg/day and 1000iu/wk of hcg? shouldnt nolva/clomid have increased lh/fsh?

[Ronnie Rowland]

ronnie i finally did bw and this is the comparison of my natural baseline, before 2nd pct and after my 2nd last pct:

My baseline (natural)
estradiol 1.7 pg/ml (men <62pg/ml)
lh 4.81 miu/ml (male 2-12)
fsh 4.06 miu/ml (1.0-8.0)
total test 3.51 (3.0-10.6)

after cycle:
Estradiol 78.76 (7.63-42.6)
lh 2.23 (1.7-8.6)
fsh 1.56 (1.5-12.4)
total test 1.55 (2.8-8.0)

after 2nd pct
estradiol 69.14 (7.63-42.6)
lh 2.51 (1.7-8.6)
fsh 2.21 (1.5-12.4)
total test 1.67 (2.8-8.0)

my last pct was 3wks of 20 nolva and 50 clomid. Aromasin came late and only used it for 3 days (25mg, 12.5,12.5) and one time usage of letro of around 1-1.2mg. Was aiming 4wks pct, but had to do a surgery if you remember. Bw was done 1 month after last pct dose!

It seems my estro went down a bit but shouldnt it go lower then that since i used one shot of letro? it takes about 1 week of using letro daily to see noticeable improvements in estrogen levels. my lh/fsh slightly improved, but not much and i think i should give hcg a try? yes thats what you need to try! am dealing with a diff doc since the previous endo drove me crazy and thought i had a tumor either in my adernal gland or scrotum. Already did a scrotum ultrasound and did a ct scan for the abdominal area to check liver,kidney,adernal gland, stomach, bladder, bancereas, prosate, lower part of the lungs...etc ..thats how they make their money! and all came good. Except some fat deposits on the liver which i believe from lack of excersize (doc said thats no issue and its reversable once i start excersizing and following a proper diet).

Whats next? 2wks of aromasin 25mg/day and 1000iu/wk of hcg? i would inject 1500 ius of hcg every other day for 3 weeks. Keep in aromasin for 4 weeks (1 week after hcg cycle). shouldnt nolva/clomid have increased lh/fsh? yes but maybe your ancillaries were low dosed?

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[kml999]

Whats next? 2wks of aromasin 25mg/day and 1000iu/wk of hcg? i would inject 1500 ius of hcg every other day for 3 weeks. Keep in aromasin for 4 weeks (1 week after hcg cycle). shouldnt nolva/clomid have increased lh/fsh? yes but maybe your ancillaries were low dosed?

well wouldnt 1500iu of hcg EOD cause estrogen to elevate? wont it aromatize?

by the way am off cycle and wanted to double check that i need to do hcg 1500iu EOD and 25mg/day of aromasin? or its better to dose the aromasin at 12.5 EOD since am off cycle and 25mg will kill all my estro? can i do 3000iu of hcg x2 per wk instead? subq or im injections? i never did hcg before and am not that fimiliar with it yet! Please be aware am off cycle and am sure those doses mentioned above are kind of high?

the ancillaries i used are pharm/human grade all bought from the pharmacy and came in blisters packs, so am sure its not underdosed

update
i did further BW for just estro and total test on the 5th day of pct...now my estro used to be 69.14 (7.63-42.6) and now is 38 (11-44) and my total test was 1.67 (2.8-8.0) and now total test is 4.83 (3.0-10.6). i ran this when i started my 3rd pct 5 days ago:

day1: 37.5mg aromasin, 100clomid
day2: 37.5 aromasin, 100 clomid, 40 nolva
day3: 12.5 aromasin, 40 nolva
day4: 12.5 aromasin, 40 nolva
day5: 12.5 aromasin, 40 nolva (havent taken the nolva on this day when i did the test and took it afterwards before sleep)

i did the bw test on the 5th day of this pct which was YESTERDAY i did estrodiol and total testosterone ONLY at a local lab and got the above results. i will keep aromasin at 12.5mg per day and 20 nolva until the 10th day

should i stop on the 10th day? should i still do hcg?

[Ronnie Rowland]

well wouldnt 1500iu of hcg EOD cause estrogen to elevate? wont it aromatize?Yes, it increases estrogen and the arimidex will take care of that so no need in substituting with nolvadexby the way am off cycle and wanted to double check that i need to do hcg 1500iu EOD and 25mg/day of aromasin? or its better to dose the aromasin at 12.5 EOD since am off cycle and 25mg will kill all my estro? 12.5 will suffice. can i do 3000iu of hcg x2 per wk instead? yes subq or im injections? subq i never did hcg before and am not that fimiliar with it yet! Please be aware am off cycle and am sure those doses mentioned above are kind of high?

the ancillaries i used are pharm/human grade all bought from the pharmacy and came in blisters packs, so am sure its not underdosed

update
i did further BW for just estro and total test on the 5th day of pct...now my estro used to be 69.14 (7.63-42.6) and now is 38 (11-44) and my total test was 1.67 (2.8-8.0) and now total test is 4.83 (3.0-10.6). i ran this when i started my 3rd pct 5 days ago:

day1: 37.5mg aromasin, 100clomid
day2: 37.5 aromasin, 100 clomid, 40 nolva
day3: 12.5 aromasin, 40 nolva
day4: 12.5 aromasin, 40 nolva
day5: 12.5 aromasin, 40 nolva (havent taken the nolva on this day when i did the test and took it afterwards before sleep)

i did the bw test on the 5th day of this pct which was YESTERDAY i did estrodiol and total testosterone ONLY at a local lab and got the above results. i will keep aromasin at 12.5mg per day and 20 nolva until the 10th day

should i stop on the 10th day? should i still do hcg? i would run hcg a minimum of 14 days and a maximum of 21. Keep nolvadex in fior 4 weeks

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