Another gains being kept debate.

[jimmyinkedup]

I have yet to run into a knowledgeable member who can respond genuinely about their experience and provide reasoning for their actions.

Thats because when you ask questions seeking out only the answers that concur with your personal bias and opinion you tend to ignore the posts that diagree with your contentions. Thats exactly what you do. You did it in the other thread and will continue to do it im sure.
Its like the 19 year old looking for justification to cycle - they ignore the 25 posts advising against it and cling to the one that says its ok. Only your contention is the oppositeat any age.
Id stop trying to hide behind your personal bias , stop trying to cloak your motives behind the guise of intelligent debate and state your opinion like a man.
If you dont think steroids are prudent - dont do them. One can only wonder why then you are in the steroid q&a section. You could prob get and give more in the workout and nutritional resource areas.

[Whoady]

Thats because when you ask questions seeking out only the answers that concur with your personal bias and opinion you tend to ignore the posts that diagree with your contentions. Thats exactly what you do. You did it in the other thread and will continue to do it im sure.
Its like the 19 year old looking for justification to cycle - they ignore the 25 posts advising against it and cling to the one that says its ok. Only your contention is the oppositeat any age.
Id stop trying to hide behind your personal bias , stop trying to cloak your motives behind the guise of intelligent debate and state your opinion like a man.
If you dont think steroids are prudent - dont do them. One can only wonder why then you are in the steroid q&a section. You could prob get and give more in the workout and nutritional resource areas.

Umm... if I was so convinced that steroids have no benefit and will not result in any gains over a longer period of time, I wouldn't be posting anything in the first place. And my posts wouldn't be in the question format. I realize that you guys that do steroids run into a lot of guys who look down on what you do so you build a defense mechanism to combat it. Well, you don't have to do that with me because I'm not one of those guys. I'm actually trying to find out information and trying to make an educated decision. You tell guys who don't know enough about steroids to research. Well, I'm doing that. I guarantee I know a lot more about steroids than probably 90% of the guys who are on them right now. What I don't have is personal experience. I'm on here waiting until more than one person (Bear) can say that he has gained and kept not gained and lost without doing more than 1 cycle per year and with proper training/diet/rest/pct/etc. This might be a minority, and I realize that.

[gixxerboy1]

Umm... if I was so convinced that steroids have no benefit and will not result in any gains over a longer period of time, I wouldn't be posting anything in the first place. And my posts wouldn't be in the question format. I realize that you guys that do steroids run into a lot of guys who look down on what you do so you build a defense mechanism to combat it. Well, you don't have to do that with me because I'm not one of those guys. I'm actually trying to find out information and trying to make an educated decision. You tell guys who don't know enough about steroids to research. Well, I'm doing that. I guarantee I know a lot more about steroids than probably 90% of the guys who are on them right now. What I don't have is personal experience. I'm on here waiting until more than one person (Bear) can say that he has gained and kept not gained and lost without doing more than 1 cycle per year and with proper training/diet/rest/pct/etc. This might be a minority, and I realize that.

Did you even read what anyone wrote.

[Whoady]

Yes I did, why do you ask?

[jimmyinkedup]

Umm... if I was so convinced that steroids have no benefit and will not result in any gains over a longer period of time, I wouldn't be posting anything in the first place. And my posts wouldn't be in the question format. I realize that you guys that do steroids run into a lot of guys who look down on what you do so you build a defense mechanism to combat it. Well, you don't have to do that with me because I'm not one of those guys. I'm actually trying to find out information and trying to make an educated decision. You tell guys who don't know enough about steroids to research. Well, I'm doing that. I guarantee I know a lot more about steroids than probably 90% of the guys who are on them right now. What I don't have is personal experience. I'm on here waiting until more than one person (Bear) can say that he has gained and kept not gained and lost without doing more than 1 cycle per year and with proper training/diet/rest/pct/etc. This might be a minority, and I realize that.

Knock it off.
More and more I see you as a troll. This is like the fourth thread where you keep coming back to the same thing - ignoring all responses that dont suit your personal views. If I had the desire I would cut and paste your posts and quotes stating your views on steroids and steroid users as well as all your back handed insults you have directed twords people and this board.
Stop trying to hide behind this "intelligent debate" bs as well. You tried to hide behind lack of science saying the baord members didnt have the knowledge you hoped till I hit you with a serious scientific question...which you avoided like the plague. The I corrected another foolish post of your re test levels and muscle with some input and a study and even a link which showed you were not accurate in your contentions- you know- real science. Again nothing from you.
You wanna have an intelligent debate? Go get some hard data to support your opinions and contentions. Man up and put your money where your mouth is. Everytime I have with you -you cower like a red headed step child and disappear with nothing to say.

[Whoady]

Knock it off.
More and more I see you as a troll. This is like the fourth thread where you keep coming back to the same thing - ignoring all responses that dont suit your personal views. If I had the desire I would cut and paste your posts and quotes stating your views on steroids and steroid users as well as all your back handed insults you have directed twords people and this board.
Stop trying to hide behind this "intelligent debate" bs as well. You tried to hide behind lack of science saying the baord members didnt have the knowledge you hoped till I hit you with a serious scientific question...which you avoided like the plague. The I corrected another foolish post of your re test levels and muscle with some input and a study and even a link which showed you were not accurate in your contentions- you know- real science. Again nothing from you.
You wanna have an intelligent debate? Go get some hard data to support your opinions and contentions. Man up and put your money where your mouth is. Everytime I have with you -you cower like a red headed step child and disappear with nothing to say.

I don't want to start arguing with you, it's pointless. You already made your mind up about me, and that's fine. There are other members who think I made a valid question and are answering me.

[jimmyinkedup]

I don't want to start arguing with you wise choice in this case, it's pointless. You already made your mind up about me, im not alone and that's fine. no - it really isntThere are other members who think I made a valid question and are answering me. yes there are those that are unaware of your previous statements and post history - they will catch on soon

see bold...
Should we discuss your previous comments on steroids and those that take them? Perhaps we should discuss the lack of scientific knowledge here(according to you) - even though several such contributions have been made in your threads - none of course by you.
Trust me - we will not be arguing....but I will call you on your BS every time.