Another gains being kept debate.

[gixxerboy1]

I understand the logic but with such small dosage ?
If that is the case than even a small very mild cycle will give you erection problems (or the like) post cycle and we know that is not true.

Dont look for Whoady for advice or explanations of how steroids work

[Whoady]

Dont look for Whoady for advice or explanations of how steroids work

Ok why don't you explain in case I made a mistake? I'm just trying to help where I can and what I know. Just because I haven't cycled yet doesn't make me stupid.

[jamesz123]

Ok why don't you explain in case I made a mistake? I'm just trying to help where I can and what I know. Just because I haven't cycled yet doesn't make me stupid.

Oh so you have not cycled yet !
well I have a bunch of times and practically speaking I did not experience any real issues when coming off a cycle even though all I used most of the time was Nolvedex when coming off. One might have another scientific explanation for that (real quick recovery etc) but that has been my experience. i also never experienced Deca dick.
Just another point , I find it strange how HIT advocates cling to what Dorian Yates did or said as if that was some great validation for HIT.
Yates is one pro bodybuilder and a sample of one is just that ...ONE, it just aint enough.

[The Bear 79]

Ok why don't you explain in case I made a mistake? I'm just trying to help where I can and what I know. Just because I haven't cycled yet doesn't make me stupid.

Hands on exp. go's a long way here man. Would u want a doc that just read the book or a doc that has proven, successful, hands on exp diagnosing & treating patients over the yrs?

[jamesz123]

Hands on exp. go's a long way here man. Would u want a doc that just read the book or a doc that has proven, successful, hands on exp diagnosing & treating patients over the yrs?

Exactly. Also isn't it true that doctors for years said that steroids do not really do much, for sports purposes, back in the 50s and 60s while steroids were already in full use.

Plus my comment on HIT were not meant at anyone specifically. HIT opened my eyes to many things (and I did it for some years) but strictly speaking I do not agree with its long term practical application for building a bodybuilders body. I also do not think that Yates himself follows HIT the way Mentzer intended it - didn't Dorain yates do more than one exercise for even the smallest body part (like bicep, even though he does one set of each) and that according to HIT is over-training.