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    Quote Originally Posted by dtrain17 View Post
    okay so i'll post up a cycle i wanna do soon. I can't get masteron for a while like you recommended though.

    1-8 test e (500 mgs), proviron (50 mgs), hcg (500 i.u)
    9-10 test e (250mgs), hcg (1500 i.u, split into 2 shots) keep hcg at 500 ius during deloads. Then after you go off your cycle use more hcg for 2 weeks. I think you will be fine doing a 20 week slingshot cycle then waiting to increase hcg for 2 weeks after the 20 week cycle has been completed. Keep hcg at 500 ius weekly for 20 weeks then increase it for 2 week after the 20 weeks is complete. Keeping aromasin on hand is always a good idea. Also, some need letro to knock out gyno if it's a severe case but i would not use letro for over 2 weeks at a time. It's very hard on the body as a whole.
    and then here if i can i would do another blast, but i forget what i do if i want kids (i don't know yet so i'd like to be on the safe side.) also i know you recommend eq in both cycles but i'd like to use test alone first to see the sides, and i was wondering if eq would be better to add in the next cycle or should i just bump up test dosage..too many options! Anyways the next blast would be: actually i do not recommend eq. It's better to use more test imo.

    1-8 test e (500mgs), eq (600mgs), proviron (50mgs), hcg (500 i.u). (i would increase test to 750 mgs here whether you add in the 600mgs of eq or not.9-10 test e (250mgs)

    pct: Starts 1 week after last test shot (i think?)

    1-2 hcg (1000 i.u eod) (you recommended, to keep $ down)
    1-4 nolva (20mg ed) *if idc about libido, then proviron isn't really useful here?
    I think you recommend aromasin to have on hand for during cycle also, i know adex is worst.
    Thanks ronnie, i know this is a lot of questions but i'm almost ready i think, i'll post pics up to show everyone the transformation!
    above

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    above
    Okay that sounds good, thanks for the repliy! The reason I thought eq would be good is because i'm more of an ectomorph and it's hard for me to eat as much as I need to.
    If i'm on aas I figured I need to up my protein a bit, and i'm at maybe 1.2 grams per lbs now (natural) which is around 210 grams of protein and is around the max I could get. I know it doesn't always increase appetite but I figured I would take the chance, but it's also pricey to use 600 mgs when I could use something else at half the amount with around the same results.

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    [QUOTE=Dtrain17;6099098]Okay that sounds good, thanks for the repliy! The reason I thought eq would be good is because i'm more of an ectomorph and it's hard for me to eat as much as I need to.
    If i'm on aas I figured I need to up my protein a bit, and i'm at maybe 1.2 grams per lbs now (natural) which is around 210 grams of protein and is around the max I could get. I know it doesn't always increase appetite but I figured I would take the chance, but it's also pricey to use 600 mgs when I could use something else at half the amount with around the same results. B complex vitamins can help stimulate the apettite and you will probably need to take prilosec for breakfast and dinner to prevent heartburn if thats an issue for you when eating a lot of food. You caould also try just 300 mgs of EQ per week to see if that helps you want to eat more.[/QUOTE]above

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    [QUOTE=Ronnie Rowland;6104043]
    Quote Originally Posted by Dtrain17 View Post
    Okay that sounds good, thanks for the repliy! The reason I thought eq would be good is because i'm more of an ectomorph and it's hard for me to eat as much as I need to.
    If i'm on aas I figured I need to up my protein a bit, and i'm at maybe 1.2 grams per lbs now (natural) which is around 210 grams of protein and is around the max I could get. I know it doesn't always increase appetite but I figured I would take the chance, but it's also pricey to use 600 mgs when I could use something else at half the amount with around the same results. B complex vitamins can help stimulate the apettite and you will probably need to take prilosec for breakfast and dinner to prevent heartburn if thats an issue for you when eating a lot of food. You caould also try just 300 mgs of EQ per week to see if that helps you want to eat more.[/QUOTE]above
    Okay thanks, the heartburn shouldn't be a problem and I do take vitamin B complex already as well as B12 with it also. I do 20 mins of cardio 3x/week also but after my workout, maybe do it at a different time to have 2 times a day where my metabolism is increased - for more hunger?

    Okay so I know your pct protocol, other guys said hcg at 500 all cycle also but then when you go to pct I heard hcg isn't necessary, just use nolva. I know both ways would work just wondering your thoughts on that! Thanks Big Ron

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