Gains forever or cycle forever ?

[Lunk1]

muscle is muscle. It doesn't matter how you gained it, it still requires the same thing to keep it. Diet and training.

(this does not include ppl past genetic limits)

[jamesz123]

muscle is muscle. It doesn't matter how you gained it, it still requires the same thing to keep it. Diet and training.

(this does not include ppl past genetic limits)

I find what you said a little vague - no offense intended and yes I have heard this argument before. Past your genetic limit - so how can we know that you have reached your genetic limit. How can you truly know that. So if one losses muscle mass after a cycle than people would say 'he was past his genetic limit anyway ".....!! ?

In a way that does not even matter, what I am saying is you loss PURE muscle when you are off the juice for a couple of months. Practically speaking.....you might have gained a fraction of fat and so still look about the same size and weigh more than before cycle but that is not muscle - it is fat.
I see that most people do not agree with me. Wonder what the old-timers will say about this matter ?