Cardio concerns

[Khazima]

There is no myth that cardio kills gains because it 100% kills gains when it's high intensity for a good period of time. Has nothing to do with adjusting TDEE...It's much easier to lose muscle than to gain it....When your glycogen stores are depleted and your heart rate is continuously over 130 for an extended period of time after that your body will reach to muscle for energy and it will be more muscle lost than can be covered for by just adjusting your tdee for that day lol


But honestly though, good luck in your future endeavors and i hope you experience great cardio gains....Keep sticking to those studies too because i'm sure that's what got every bodybuilder who never went to college started in their route to getting 20+ inch arms...

And where did you get that info from? thought it up yourself from a few theories? A bigger bro told you it?

HIIT has actually been shown, properly not just anecdotally or passed down from the biggest bro at the gym, but shown in real world accumulated evidence to be superior to low intensity cardio for fat loss. Your don't just suddenly lose muscle from being in a deficit for too long, otherwise all the intermittent fasters who do cardio fasted would lose all their gains, right?

It can be covered by upping your TDEE if your intent is to do the cardio and still make gains, otherwise you can eat a little more on a diet or take the extra burned calories into consideration in the deficit.

again, where on earth did you get your information?

Also, how is layne a 'phaggot and a liar'? he has a wife and shows data and evidence towards his claims as well as proving them himself and with his clients? (his natty status being another story, although it's reasonable to believe he is natural).

[davidtheman100]

And where did you get that info from? thought it up yourself from a few theories? A bigger bro told you it?

HIIT has actually been shown, properly not just anecdotally or passed down from the biggest bro at the gym, but shown in real world accumulated evidence to be superior to low intensity cardio for fat loss. Your don't just suddenly lose muscle from being in a deficit for too long, otherwise all the intermittent fasters who do cardio fasted would lose all their gains, right?

It can be covered by upping your TDEE if your intent is to do the cardio and still make gains, otherwise you can eat a little more on a diet or take the extra burned calories into consideration in the deficit.

again, where on earth did you get your information?

Also, how is layne a 'phaggot and a liar'? he has a wife and shows data and evidence towards his claims as well as proving them himself and with his clients? (his natty status being another story, although it's reasonable to believe he is natural).

"It's reasonable to believe Layne is natural" ???? U serious man??? 5'10" 200 lbs shredded on stage??? GRAMS OF GEAR MY FRIEND...A LIAR....He wouldn't go on stage a POUND over 180 if he was natural...His whole following is a joke and they listen solely on the fact that he has a PHD...He also takes advantage of the American judicial system and sues people for feeble things...Funny for someone with a wife and family but to not consider others with a wife and family when he sues them for feeble shit...Enough about Layne unless i really have to elaborate further...


Bottom line this exercise he is proposing is 100% detrimental towards his bodybuilding career...We are not talking shorts periods of time going fast...And then short periods of time getting heart rate back down...We are talking the FULL TIME this his heart rate high which is most likely going to happen with a big fella on a bike...

That extra upping of your TDEE will not suffice as i've said. When you burn muscle during a workout...Adjusting your calories towards the ones you lost working out is only covering you for that individual day towards building muscle...while that bullshit track-type workout just ****ed you over more than 1 day...Don't believe me that's fine....You'll continue to get in the way of your goals...What the bigger guys/competitors say will always sit with me better than what some doctor who doesn't give a shit about the bodybuilding cult's study says...

[IronClydes]

"It's reasonable to believe Layne is natural" ???? U serious man??? 5'10" 200 lbs shredded on stage??? GRAMS OF GEAR MY FRIEND...A LIAR....He wouldn't go on stage a POUND over 180 if he was natural...His whole following is a joke and they listen solely on the fact that he has a PHD...He also takes advantage of the American judicial system and sues people for feeble things...Funny for someone with a wife and family but to not consider others with a wife and family when he sues them for feeble shit...Enough about Layne unless i really have to elaborate further...


Bottom line this exercise he is proposing is 100% detrimental towards his bodybuilding career...We are not talking shorts periods of time going fast...And then short periods of time getting heart rate back down...We are talking the FULL TIME this his heart rate high which is most likely going to happen with a big fella on a bike...

That extra upping of your TDEE will not suffice as i've said. When you burn muscle during a workout...Adjusting your calories towards the ones you lost working out is only covering you for that individual day towards building muscle...while that bullshit track-type workout just ****ed you over more than 1 day...Don't believe me that's fine....You'll continue to get in the way of your goals...What the bigger guys/competitors say will always sit with me better than what some doctor who doesn't give a shit about the bodybuilding cult's study says...

I appreciate your opinion, Dave. Thanks again.

So, your recommendation is simply to avoid this style of cardio completely, correct?

You are correct in that I will run about 140-160 during this for 30-45 minutes. I would intend to do once a week only.

Even if I pre-loaded with Casein, BCAA's, and followed immediately with carbs and whey isolate....you still see this as detrimental?

[davidtheman100]

I appreciate your opinion, Dave. Thanks again.

So, your recommendation is simply to avoid this style of cardio completely, correct?

You are correct in that I will run about 140-160 during this for 30-45 minutes. I would intend to do once a week only.

Even if I pre-loaded with Casein, BCAA's, and followed immediately with carbs and whey isolate....you still see this as detrimental?

To be honest with you if it's 30-45 minutes once a week it won't be detrimental at all. I was thinking more along the lines of 2+ hours but thats not the case so i wouldn't worry about it! Like bb said enjoy it!