Need preworkout suggestion

[tarmyg]

I've been using 20mg of Dbol pre workout for years . its way cheaper then any over the counter supplement, has no stim crash, and gives both physical and mental benefits (clarity and focus)

Interesting. Might try this but at 10mg as I'm super sensitive to orals.

Do you need a build up time with dbol or does it work like, i.e., caffeine?

[GearHeaded]

Interesting. Might try this but at 10mg as I'm super sensitive to orals.

Do you need a build up time with dbol or does it work like, i.e., caffeine?

no you don't need consistent blood levels of the drug at all , especially with Dbol. the mental effects can be felt with the first dose. back in the 50s or 60s Dbol was given to treat depression.
feeling stressed out and on edge.. pop a Dbol. it will help with your overall mood. and the physiological effects (nutrient partitioning and ability to help shuttle glycogen, nutrients, water, etc. into muscle cells) is obviously a big benefit pre workout as well.

now one thing that you will notice is that the longer your taking it your pumps will get more and more pronounced. this is NOT necessarily from build up of the drug in your system, this is from the steady increase in estrogen that you may get (dose dependent and depending on how often you use it). this is a good thing. don't go ruining it by taking a bunch of AI just cause your running a little Dbol pre-workout

[tarmyg]

no you don't need consistent blood levels of the drug at all , especially with Dbol. the mental effects can be felt with the first dose. back in the 50s or 60s Dbol was given to treat depression.
feeling stressed out and on edge.. pop a Dbol. it will help with your overall mood. and the physiological effects (nutrient partitioning and ability to help shuttle glycogen, nutrients, water, etc. into muscle cells) is obviously a big benefit pre workout as well.

now one thing that you will notice is that the longer your taking it your pumps will get more and more pronounced. this is NOT necessarily from build up of the drug in your system, this is from the steady increase in estrogen that you may get (dose dependent and depending on how often you use it). this is a good thing. don't go ruining it by taking a bunch of AI just cause your running a little Dbol pre-workout

Thanks GH. Appreciate the detailed answer.

[Couchlockd]

no you don't need consistent blood levels of the drug at all , especially with Dbol. the mental effects can be felt with the first dose. back in the 50s or 60s Dbol was given to treat depression.
feeling stressed out and on edge.. pop a Dbol. it will help with your overall mood. and the physiological effects (nutrient partitioning and ability to help shuttle glycogen, nutrients, water, etc. into muscle cells) is obviously a big benefit pre workout as well.

now one thing that you will notice is that the longer your taking it your pumps will get more and more pronounced. this is NOT necessarily from build up of the drug in your system, this is from the steady increase in estrogen that you may get (dose dependent and depending on how often you use it). this is a good thing. don't go ruining it by taking a bunch of AI just cause your running a little Dbol pre-workout

Any issues taking dbol pre-workout in the midst of 50mg var ED?

[GearHeaded]

Any issues taking dbol pre-workout in the midst of 50mg var ED?

no. in fact you'll get some good synergy there. as VAR is going to help upregulate CP (creatine phosphate) resulting in more ATP production (fueld by glucose primarily) and provide more energy output and muscular contractions,, and on the other side of the coin the Dbol is going to help with glucose metabolism and inter cellular nutrient and water retention. combined your looking at more energy, better contractions, better pump, and better nutrient absorption and recovery in the muscle.

lots of goys mistakingly don't thing a 'dry' compound like var goes together well with a 'wet' compound like Dbol . but when you look at their mehancims of action specifically, you'll see how well they complement each other

[Couchlockd]

no. in fact you'll get some good synergy there. as VAR is going to help upregulate CP (creatine phosphate) resulting in more ATP production (fueld by glucose primarily) and provide more energy output and muscular contractions,, and on the other side of the coin the Dbol is going to help with glucose metabolism and inter cellular nutrient and water retention. combined your looking at more energy, better contractions, better pump, and better nutrient absorption and recovery in the muscle.

lots of goys mistakingly don't thing a 'dry' compound like var goes together well with a 'wet' compound like Dbol . but when you look at their mehancims of action specifically, you'll see how well they complement each other

Just how bad is it on cholesterol? And how extreme is the water retention?

[GearHeaded]

Just how bad is it on cholesterol? And how extreme is the water retention?

its not near as harsh on Cholesterol as VAR or Winstrol is . for me water retention happens at 50+mg per day. if I'm just using Dbol pre-workout only at 20mg I don't notice any water retention, except a bit more muscle fullness and retention in the muscle itself. my blood pressure will stay at 120/70, but will go up if I run 50+mg per day and run the Dbol as an actual part of my cycle and not just as a pre workout

there are times I'm purposely trying to get as much water retention as I can though. so I'll stack a Dbol at 50mg + Anadrol at 50mg .. but again, 20mg of Dbol isn't going to give me any water retention

[Couchlockd]

its not near as harsh on Cholesterol as VAR or Winstrol is . for me water retention happens at 50+mg per day. if I'm just using Dbol pre-workout only at 20mg I don't notice any water retention, except a bit more muscle fullness and retention in the muscle itself. my blood pressure will stay at 120/70, but will go up if I run 50+mg per day and run the Dbol as an actual part of my cycle and not just as a pre workout

there are times I'm purposely trying to get as much water retention as I can though. so I'll stack a Dbol at 50mg + Anadrol at 50mg .. but again, 20mg of Dbol isn't going to give me any water retention

Roger that

So water n e2 should be not significant @ 20mg pre-workout?

[Chrisp83TRT]

no. in fact you'll get some good synergy there. as VAR is going to help upregulate CP (creatine phosphate) resulting in more ATP production (fueld by glucose primarily) and provide more energy output and muscular contractions,, and on the other side of the coin the Dbol is going to help with glucose metabolism and inter cellular nutrient and water retention. combined your looking at more energy, better contractions, better pump, and better nutrient absorption and recovery in the muscle.

lots of goys mistakingly don't thing a 'dry' compound like var goes together well with a 'wet' compound like Dbol . but when you look at their mehancims of action specifically, you'll see how well they complement each other

Hey gear , question .

If you don't take it daily pre work out but let's say every other day or every other couple of days ,
Will that cause an imbalance of estrogen and cause a flux of issues ?

I'm interested in trying dbol as a prework as I never did this , but may not use it every day.

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[Meow_Wolf]

Any issues taking dbol pre-workout in the midst of 50mg var ED?

That profile Pic tho...