The mainstream media did this to America

[Gallowmere]

No you didnt, you didnt point out anything. you only called me a fat ass.


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I think, to put things a bit more tactfully that what has thus far been put across, I’ll throw in my two cents on this whole thing.
I agree with you 100% that the biggest problem plaguing ALL communities (and disproportionately affecting dense populations of lower income minorities for both cultural and genetic reasons) is preventable death spawning from our current culture of overconsumption and reduced physical demand. It also has a knock on effect of screwing up fertility rates and offspring quality. At this rate, we’ll be the first species to ever eat itself into extinction.
I think what DLD is pointing out the simple adage of “be the change you want to see in the world”. You have a resource here that (assuming you take the time to learn and are willing to apply the information) provides you with unending opportunities to learn and make those changes. If you can’t do that, you’re not much better than the wideass health official or doctor pontificating about said issues in those communities.
I was once a morbidly obese person in terrible health as well, but I applied what I learned and undid nearly three decades worth of metabolic damage. As I always tell people though, it’s simple, not easy. The formula is simple; applying it is the hard part. Even the statistics bear this out, because the spread of accurate nutrition and metabolic information has done precisely fuck all to stem the tide of adipose tissue lapping onto the shores of our species.
As such, you’re deflecting the current topic with a problem that doesn’t have an applicable solution, short of forcefully restricting peoples food choices and intakes, and I feel like DLD is merely pointing out that your lack of improvement exemplifies this point. You clearly don’t have a solution. No one does. So why bring it up in the face of another problem that is currently being broached, if not just to deflect?

[C27H40O3]

As such, you’re deflecting the current topic with a problem that doesn’t have an applicable solution, short of forcefully restricting peoples food choices and intakes, and I feel like DLD is merely pointing out that your lack of improvement exemplifies this point. You clearly don’t have a solution. No one does. So why bring it up in the face of another problem that is currently being broached, if not just to deflect?

What did i bring up? Me being fat? I never brought that into this discussion.

It was used by someone else to deflect from addressing my point on BLM.

[C27H40O3]

What did i bring up? Me being fat? I never brought that into this discussion.

It was used by someone else to deflect from addressing my point on BLM.

He had to go back and dig up my introductory post that I posted upon joining this board and he copied and pasted it into this thread. It clearly has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, but I guess it made him feel better about himself being in better shape than I am. Whatever.



(this is a REPOST with edits since there is no edit button.)

[Gallowmere]

What did i bring up? Me being fat? I never brought that into this discussion.

It was used by someone else to deflect from addressing my point on BLM.

You brought up how preventable death is a bigger problem, and implied that it should be BLM’s focus, instead of their current tract.

[Proximal]

You brought up how preventable death is a bigger problem, and implied that it should be BLM’s focus, instead of their current tract.

Parent’s night and open house at our school cracks me up. I have so many parents annoyed with me because my kids are going back home and telling their parents what to and not to cook/eat.

We’re always breaking out the acceptable body weight charts and BP monitors. It’s said how many obese kids I have and how many already have HBP.

And I definitely mention to my black and Hispanic kids to pay special attention (particularly when we do a show of hands on family history of CV disease, HBP & Diabetes 2).

I am going to make a statement though relevant to this thread. In the past few years (particularly this past school year), we had never seen such severe and blatant racial issues in our school.

BTW, the May 31’st hanging has video evidence that it was a suicide (thank god).

[Gallowmere]

Parent’s night and open house at our school cracks me up. I have so many parents annoyed with me because my kids are going back home and telling their parents what to and not to cook/eat.

We’re always breaking out the acceptable body weight charts and BP monitors. It’s said how many obese kids I have and how many already have HBP.

And I definitely mention to my black and Hispanic kids to pay special attention (particularly when we do a show of hands on family history of CV disease, HBP & Diabetes 2).

I am going to make a statement though relevant to this thread. In the past few years (particularly this past school year), we had never seen such severe and blatant racial issues in our school.

BTW, the May 31’st hanging has video evidence that it was a suicide (thank god).

My staunch Libertarianism is never more challenged than when I see a fucking child with obesity to the point of metabolic disorder. It’s child abuse to a degree that’s probably worse than what most classify as “abuse”, because of the lifelong impacts on development, metabolic health, psychological health, etc.
I’m not talking about the slightly jiggly kid who gets winded during the mile “run” either. I’m talking about the fucking cases we’re seeing now where kids are having to be put on fucking insulin at age nine, purely to keep their body from poisoning itself with all of the excess energy being dumped into their rotund asses. I’ll stop at “their parents have failed them”, but a dark part of me wants to go to “their parents should be fucking beaten to within an inch of their lives”.

[Proximal]

My staunch Libertarianism is never more challenged than when I see a fucking child with obesity to the point of metabolic disorder. It’s child abuse to a degree that’s probably worse than what most classify as “abuse”, because of the lifelong impacts on development, metabolic health, psychological health, etc.
I’m not talking about the slightly jiggly kid who gets winded during the mile “run” either. I’m talking about the fucking cases we’re seeing now where kids are having to be put on fucking insulin at age nine, purely to keep their body from poisoning itself with all of the excess energy being dumped into their rotund asses. I’ll stop at “their parents have failed them”, but a dark part of me wants to go to “their parents should be fucking beaten to within an inch of their lives”.

We’re (wife and I) at Starbucks (truly a huge cause of never seeing an end to this crap). The kid wants to get this chocolate Frappuccino with extra chocolate chips, whip cream and a caramel drizzle. The oh so responsible dad asks the clerk “hey there’s not too much caffeine in there, right?” The clerk says no, the dad is relieved and my wife is pinching & whispering to me to shut the fuck up.

The kids here are addicted to that shit and the sugary energy drinks out here.

[Gallowmere]

We’re (wife and I) at Starbucks (truly a huge cause of never seeing an end to this crap). The kid wants to get this chocolate Frappuccino with extra chocolate chips, whip cream and a caramel drizzle. The oh so responsible dad asks the clerk “hey there’s not too much caffeine in there, right?” The clerk says no, the dad is relieved and my wife is pinching & whispering to me to shut the fuck up.

The kids here are addicted to that shit and the sugary energy drinks out here.

It’s one of those things that I try to avoid judging in generalities, for one reason alone: with my daily activity level, I require slightly over 4000 kcals to hold weight, even when I’m off cycle.
As such, I can’t presume to know what a kid’s daily energy demands are, what they may have done (or will be doing ) on that particular day, etc. We’ve all known those teenage and 20-something athletes who can treat their body like a dumpster, but the fire’s burning so hot that it’s irrelevant.
However, aaaaaall of that thought goes out the window when said concoction is being dumped into a kid who is a clear metabolic trainwreck, or well on their way there.

[GearHeaded]

My staunch Libertarianism is never more challenged than when I see a fucking child with obesity to the point of metabolic disorder. It’s child abuse to a degree that’s probably worse than what most classify as “abuse”, because of the lifelong impacts on development, metabolic health, psychological health, etc.
I’m not talking about the slightly jiggly kid who gets winded during the mile “run” either. I’m talking about the fucking cases we’re seeing now where kids are having to be put on fucking insulin at age nine, purely to keep their body from poisoning itself with all of the excess energy being dumped into their rotund asses. I’ll stop at “their parents have failed them”, but a dark part of me wants to go to “their parents should be fucking beaten to within an inch of their lives”.

meanwhile we have tons of under weight under fed and malnourished kids as well .
its a shame one kid is eating 8000 cals per day mainly all junk carbs and becoming obese and diabetic and another kid is going without meals all together.

government isn't going to fix that problem. they are incapable of doing much of anything other then pay themselves.

the community is the better option .. I do live in a fairly wealthy town/area, but we do have plenty of poor and needy as well.
between the community ran food banks and churches and charities here etc.. we get tons of food to people. and I'm not talking garbage cheap food either , families struggling will get quality steaks, organic chicken and free range eggs, fresh veggies, etc.. locally owned restaurants and other businesses will buy extra food and donate it weekly . people here get high quality organic meats delivered to their homes and they always order extra and donate some.

I think some communities are just so 'each for themselves' and cut throat that they don't operate that way at all .. and if you are in need in one of those communities you go to govt for assistance and not your local neighbors.

we take care of each other .. heck even my neighbor knowing I've had 5 back surgeries and struggle with back pain comes over randomly in the winter and snow blows my driveway for me (in return we bake him and his wife cakes.. my daughter is a good baker)


anyhow - I just find in interesting how some kids are going without food in certain communities and others are getting obese. seems like such a contrast.
the solution starts with the family first and then the greater community mindset at large (definitely don't want government in control)

[C27H40O3]

You brought up how preventable death is a bigger problem, and implied that it should be BLM’s focus, instead of their current tract.

Yes, i believe that they should be directing their energy towards this topic, if black lives really did matter to them. I agree with you. My BMI, whatever it may be, has nothing to do with the issue.