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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    My staunch Libertarianism is never more challenged than when I see a fucking child with obesity to the point of metabolic disorder. It’s child abuse to a degree that’s probably worse than what most classify as “abuse”, because of the lifelong impacts on development, metabolic health, psychological health, etc.
    I’m not talking about the slightly jiggly kid who gets winded during the mile “run” either. I’m talking about the fucking cases we’re seeing now where kids are having to be put on fucking insulin at age nine, purely to keep their body from poisoning itself with all of the excess energy being dumped into their rotund asses. I’ll stop at “their parents have failed them”, but a dark part of me wants to go to “their parents should be fucking beaten to within an inch of their lives”.
    We’re (wife and I) at Starbucks (truly a huge cause of never seeing an end to this crap). The kid wants to get this chocolate Frappuccino with extra chocolate chips, whip cream and a caramel drizzle. The oh so responsible dad asks the clerk “hey there’s not too much caffeine in there, right?” The clerk says no, the dad is relieved and my wife is pinching & whispering to me to shut the fuck up.

    The kids here are addicted to that shit and the sugary energy drinks out here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    We’re (wife and I) at Starbucks (truly a huge cause of never seeing an end to this crap). The kid wants to get this chocolate Frappuccino with extra chocolate chips, whip cream and a caramel drizzle. The oh so responsible dad asks the clerk “hey there’s not too much caffeine in there, right?” The clerk says no, the dad is relieved and my wife is pinching & whispering to me to shut the fuck up.

    The kids here are addicted to that shit and the sugary energy drinks out here.
    It’s one of those things that I try to avoid judging in generalities, for one reason alone: with my daily activity level, I require slightly over 4000 kcals to hold weight, even when I’m off cycle.
    As such, I can’t presume to know what a kid’s daily energy demands are, what they may have done (or will be doing ) on that particular day, etc. We’ve all known those teenage and 20-something athletes who can treat their body like a dumpster, but the fire’s burning so hot that it’s irrelevant.
    However, aaaaaall of that thought goes out the window when said concoction is being dumped into a kid who is a clear metabolic trainwreck, or well on their way there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    It’s one of those things that I try to avoid judging in generalities, for one reason alone: with my daily activity level, I require slightly over 4000 kcals to hold weight, even when I’m off cycle.
    As such, I can’t presume to know what a kid’s daily energy demands are, what they may have done (or will be doing ) on that particular day, etc. We’ve all known those teenage and 20-something athletes who can treat their body like a dumpster, but the fire’s burning so hot that it’s irrelevant.
    However, aaaaaall of that thought goes out the window when said concoction is being dumped into a kid who is a clear metabolic trainwreck, or well on their way there.
    Well, the massive amounts of glucose being consumed during the school day that consists of them largely sitting on their butts from 8 - 3 is not going to get burnt off. Particularly, when we have a mid-morning “nutrition” break and then for lunch the kids shoot back over to Starbucks, Seven Eleven (coincidentally each are a 5 minute walk from our school) or In & Out burger washed down with a giant soda. PE is no longer a requirement and vending machines are a large revenue source for public schools.

    Even if you are an athlete and do work out after school, that’s an easy 7 hour stretch where the kid’s insulin receptors are getting bombarded daily.

    In addition, I ask my kids to ask their parents if they can get their blood sugar and triglycerides tested. Way too many of my kids are coming back high on one or both.

    God, I love seeing my kids change their eating habits or seeing them at my gym after school. I’m going to miss that badly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    Well, the massive amounts of glucose being consumed during the school day that consists of them largely sitting on their butts from 8 - 3 is not going to get burnt off. Particularly, when we have a mid-morning “nutrition” break and then for lunch the kids shoot back over to Starbucks, Seven Eleven (coincidentally each are a 5 minute walk from our school) or In & Out burger washed down with a giant soda. PE is no longer a requirement and vending machines are a large revenue source for public schools.

    Even if you are an athlete and do work out after school, that’s an easy 7 hour stretch where the kid’s insulin receptors are getting bombarded daily.

    In addition, I ask my kids to ask their parents if they can get their blood sugar and triglycerides tested. Way too many of my kids are coming back high on one or both.

    God, I love seeing my kids change their eating habits or seeing them at my gym after school. I’m going to miss that badly.
    Well, glucose metabolism/conversion/storage does occur over about a 24 hour period, so assuming energy balance is a thing, and specific nutrient needs are being met, it’s not problematic. But as GH pointed out, our biggest issues come from these kids who are choking more than double their needs down their faceholes on a daily basis.
    The human body is amazingly adaptive and resilient when it comes to what it can survive and thrive on, and the massive differences in diets in pre-modern West cultures are a great testament to this. However, what we have in the here and now is total fucking energy overload that we were never meant to handle.

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