The mainstream media did this to America

[Gallowmere]

Parent’s night and open house at our school cracks me up. I have so many parents annoyed with me because my kids are going back home and telling their parents what to and not to cook/eat.

We’re always breaking out the acceptable body weight charts and BP monitors. It’s said how many obese kids I have and how many already have HBP.

And I definitely mention to my black and Hispanic kids to pay special attention (particularly when we do a show of hands on family history of CV disease, HBP & Diabetes 2).

I am going to make a statement though relevant to this thread. In the past few years (particularly this past school year), we had never seen such severe and blatant racial issues in our school.

BTW, the May 31’st hanging has video evidence that it was a suicide (thank god).

My staunch Libertarianism is never more challenged than when I see a fucking child with obesity to the point of metabolic disorder. It’s child abuse to a degree that’s probably worse than what most classify as “abuse”, because of the lifelong impacts on development, metabolic health, psychological health, etc.
I’m not talking about the slightly jiggly kid who gets winded during the mile “run” either. I’m talking about the fucking cases we’re seeing now where kids are having to be put on fucking insulin at age nine, purely to keep their body from poisoning itself with all of the excess energy being dumped into their rotund asses. I’ll stop at “their parents have failed them”, but a dark part of me wants to go to “their parents should be fucking beaten to within an inch of their lives”.

[Proximal]

My staunch Libertarianism is never more challenged than when I see a fucking child with obesity to the point of metabolic disorder. It’s child abuse to a degree that’s probably worse than what most classify as “abuse”, because of the lifelong impacts on development, metabolic health, psychological health, etc.
I’m not talking about the slightly jiggly kid who gets winded during the mile “run” either. I’m talking about the fucking cases we’re seeing now where kids are having to be put on fucking insulin at age nine, purely to keep their body from poisoning itself with all of the excess energy being dumped into their rotund asses. I’ll stop at “their parents have failed them”, but a dark part of me wants to go to “their parents should be fucking beaten to within an inch of their lives”.

We’re (wife and I) at Starbucks (truly a huge cause of never seeing an end to this crap). The kid wants to get this chocolate Frappuccino with extra chocolate chips, whip cream and a caramel drizzle. The oh so responsible dad asks the clerk “hey there’s not too much caffeine in there, right?” The clerk says no, the dad is relieved and my wife is pinching & whispering to me to shut the fuck up.

The kids here are addicted to that shit and the sugary energy drinks out here.

[Gallowmere]

We’re (wife and I) at Starbucks (truly a huge cause of never seeing an end to this crap). The kid wants to get this chocolate Frappuccino with extra chocolate chips, whip cream and a caramel drizzle. The oh so responsible dad asks the clerk “hey there’s not too much caffeine in there, right?” The clerk says no, the dad is relieved and my wife is pinching & whispering to me to shut the fuck up.

The kids here are addicted to that shit and the sugary energy drinks out here.

It’s one of those things that I try to avoid judging in generalities, for one reason alone: with my daily activity level, I require slightly over 4000 kcals to hold weight, even when I’m off cycle.
As such, I can’t presume to know what a kid’s daily energy demands are, what they may have done (or will be doing ) on that particular day, etc. We’ve all known those teenage and 20-something athletes who can treat their body like a dumpster, but the fire’s burning so hot that it’s irrelevant.
However, aaaaaall of that thought goes out the window when said concoction is being dumped into a kid who is a clear metabolic trainwreck, or well on their way there.

[Proximal]

It’s one of those things that I try to avoid judging in generalities, for one reason alone: with my daily activity level, I require slightly over 4000 kcals to hold weight, even when I’m off cycle.
As such, I can’t presume to know what a kid’s daily energy demands are, what they may have done (or will be doing ) on that particular day, etc. We’ve all known those teenage and 20-something athletes who can treat their body like a dumpster, but the fire’s burning so hot that it’s irrelevant.
However, aaaaaall of that thought goes out the window when said concoction is being dumped into a kid who is a clear metabolic trainwreck, or well on their way there.

Well, the massive amounts of glucose being consumed during the school day that consists of them largely sitting on their butts from 8 - 3 is not going to get burnt off. Particularly, when we have a mid-morning “nutrition” break and then for lunch the kids shoot back over to Starbucks, Seven Eleven (coincidentally each are a 5 minute walk from our school) or In & Out burger washed down with a giant soda. PE is no longer a requirement and vending machines are a large revenue source for public schools.

Even if you are an athlete and do work out after school, that’s an easy 7 hour stretch where the kid’s insulin receptors are getting bombarded daily.

In addition, I ask my kids to ask their parents if they can get their blood sugar and triglycerides tested. Way too many of my kids are coming back high on one or both.

God, I love seeing my kids change their eating habits or seeing them at my gym after school. I’m going to miss that badly.

[Gallowmere]

Well, the massive amounts of glucose being consumed during the school day that consists of them largely sitting on their butts from 8 - 3 is not going to get burnt off. Particularly, when we have a mid-morning “nutrition” break and then for lunch the kids shoot back over to Starbucks, Seven Eleven (coincidentally each are a 5 minute walk from our school) or In & Out burger washed down with a giant soda. PE is no longer a requirement and vending machines are a large revenue source for public schools.

Even if you are an athlete and do work out after school, that’s an easy 7 hour stretch where the kid’s insulin receptors are getting bombarded daily.

In addition, I ask my kids to ask their parents if they can get their blood sugar and triglycerides tested. Way too many of my kids are coming back high on one or both.

God, I love seeing my kids change their eating habits or seeing them at my gym after school. I’m going to miss that badly.

Well, glucose metabolism/conversion/storage does occur over about a 24 hour period, so assuming energy balance is a thing, and specific nutrient needs are being met, it’s not problematic. But as GH pointed out, our biggest issues come from these kids who are choking more than double their needs down their faceholes on a daily basis.
The human body is amazingly adaptive and resilient when it comes to what it can survive and thrive on, and the massive differences in diets in pre-modern West cultures are a great testament to this. However, what we have in the here and now is total fucking energy overload that we were never meant to handle.

[GearHeaded]

My staunch Libertarianism is never more challenged than when I see a fucking child with obesity to the point of metabolic disorder. It’s child abuse to a degree that’s probably worse than what most classify as “abuse”, because of the lifelong impacts on development, metabolic health, psychological health, etc.
I’m not talking about the slightly jiggly kid who gets winded during the mile “run” either. I’m talking about the fucking cases we’re seeing now where kids are having to be put on fucking insulin at age nine, purely to keep their body from poisoning itself with all of the excess energy being dumped into their rotund asses. I’ll stop at “their parents have failed them”, but a dark part of me wants to go to “their parents should be fucking beaten to within an inch of their lives”.

meanwhile we have tons of under weight under fed and malnourished kids as well .
its a shame one kid is eating 8000 cals per day mainly all junk carbs and becoming obese and diabetic and another kid is going without meals all together.

government isn't going to fix that problem. they are incapable of doing much of anything other then pay themselves.

the community is the better option .. I do live in a fairly wealthy town/area, but we do have plenty of poor and needy as well.
between the community ran food banks and churches and charities here etc.. we get tons of food to people. and I'm not talking garbage cheap food either , families struggling will get quality steaks, organic chicken and free range eggs, fresh veggies, etc.. locally owned restaurants and other businesses will buy extra food and donate it weekly . people here get high quality organic meats delivered to their homes and they always order extra and donate some.

I think some communities are just so 'each for themselves' and cut throat that they don't operate that way at all .. and if you are in need in one of those communities you go to govt for assistance and not your local neighbors.

we take care of each other .. heck even my neighbor knowing I've had 5 back surgeries and struggle with back pain comes over randomly in the winter and snow blows my driveway for me (in return we bake him and his wife cakes.. my daughter is a good baker)


anyhow - I just find in interesting how some kids are going without food in certain communities and others are getting obese. seems like such a contrast.
the solution starts with the family first and then the greater community mindset at large (definitely don't want government in control)