Test E only cycle

[King_ragnar]

At this point, you have choices. Good on you for making your first cycle test only and keeping it shorter.

Choice 1 - keep duration the same, just take more test, say 750mg per week.

Choice 2 - keep duration and test volume the same, but add another compound

Choice 3 - keep test the same, increase duration to 16 weeks, plus or minus.

There are other options, but those are the best and safest ones, IMO.

Personally, I like the 2nd choice. Since you are cutting, you could add a DHT derivative like masteron or maybe front or back load with Anavar. Either of these compounds can help you manage estrogen, too.

The first option might lead to managing estrogen sides, though I can't speak to how that went on your 500mg cycle. Also at some point we run into diminishing returns with a compound. For example, 750mg test might not be 50% enter than 500mg, maybe only 30% better. Numbers are somewhat arbitrary but you get the point. That said, it's not a bad choice.

3rd option there is fine too, but at 28, you should still have good natural production. The longer you are on, the longer it can take to restart. I don't really think an extra 4 weeks is problematic, but doubling to 24 weeks as you suggested could be, based on your experience level.

Just some random tboughts...

Thank you so much brother!! I really appreciate it, at this moment i have on my hands only test so i am thinking about 3rd option keeping test same and using it about 16-20 weeks (no more than that) then 3 weeks off and starting my pct, i am also using arimidex 0,5mg EOD

[Cylon357]

Thank you so much brother!! I really appreciate it, at this moment i have on my hands only test so i am thinking about 3rd option keeping test same and using it about 16-20 weeks (no more than that) then 3 weeks off and starting my pct, i am also using arimidex 0,5mg EOD

That is almost certainly too much adex. Some weeks you will be doing 2mg per week. That's a big number. Did you have high estrogen issues on your 500mg cycle? You actually do want estrogen, it has so many good benefits and positive impact on male physiology. That said, if you know you have issues, have at it, but do be careful to NOT hinder gains too much by tamping estrogen too much.

[King_ragnar]

That is almost certainly too much adex. Some weeks you will be doing 2mg per week. That's a big number. Did you have high estrogen issues on your 500mg cycle? You actually do want estrogen, it has so many good benefits and positive impact on male physiology. That said, if you know you have issues, have at it, but do be careful to NOT hinder gains too much by tamping estrogen too much.

I did the same on my 500mg cycle, dex 0,5 EOD. How much dex you think i shoult take?? 1mg per week?

[Cylon357]

I did the same on my 500mg cycle, dex 0,5 EOD. How much dex you think i shoult take?? 1mg per week?

As little as possible, preferably 0mg. The first cycle sticky here recommends 1/4mg EOD, this is good for a first cycle. As you get more experience under your belt, the goal should be to move away from AI and run just the minimum you need to avoid negative estrogenic sides.

In time, I think you will find other compounds (like the DHT derivatives) that you can run instead of a dedicated AI. They bring the dual benefit of controlling estrogen and having at least mild anabolic effects.

[King_ragnar]

As little as possible, preferably 0mg. The first cycle sticky here recommends 1/4mg EOD, this is good for a first cycle. As you get more experience under your belt, the goal should be to move away from AI and run just the minimum you need to avoid negative estrogenic sides.

In time, I think you will find other compounds (like the DHT derivatives) that you can run instead of a dedicated AI. They bring the dual benefit of controlling estrogen and having at least mild anabolic effects.

I was afraid about gyno that's why i did 05mg dex from the beginning

[Cylon357]

I was afraid about gyno that's why i did 05mg dex from the beginning

We are all afraid of gyno at one point or another. There are better ways of preventing it, though.

When you beat down estrogen with an ai, you do reduce the risk of gyno, but you also needlessly hinder gains, libido, and immunity.

Nolvadex can prevent and eliminate gyno and is safe to use on cycle. Those dht derivatives I mentioned do the same.

[King_ragnar]

We are all afraid of gyno at one point or another. There are better ways of preventing it, though.

When you beat down estrogen with an ai, you do reduce the risk of gyno, but you also needlessly hinder gains, libido, and immunity.

Nolvadex can prevent and eliminate gyno and is safe to use on cycle. Those dht derivatives I mentioned do the same.

Τhat's why i didnt do test E and deca cause i am afraid of deca dick... ok then i will check it out to use the minimum i need

[Honkey_Kong]

I did the same on my 500mg cycle, dex 0,5 EOD. How much dex you think i shoult take?? 1mg per week?

On 500mg? There's a pretty good chance you might not need an AI. If you did need one, I'd start with .25mg E2D. You really don't want to overdo the AI. Your body needs estrogen. You don't ever want to take more than the bare minimum of any drug needed to give you the desired result. Less is more.


And really, if you're that scared of getting gyno, then you probably shouldn't take gear in the first place. It's a risk that can happen. And if you get it, there are things you can do about it (up to and including a mastectomy).