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    Quote Originally Posted by King_ragnar View Post
    I did the same on my 500mg cycle, dex 0,5 EOD. How much dex you think i shoult take?? 1mg per week?
    As little as possible, preferably 0mg. The first cycle sticky here recommends 1/4mg EOD, this is good for a first cycle. As you get more experience under your belt, the goal should be to move away from AI and run just the minimum you need to avoid negative estrogenic sides.

    In time, I think you will find other compounds (like the DHT derivatives) that you can run instead of a dedicated AI. They bring the dual benefit of controlling estrogen and having at least mild anabolic effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    As little as possible, preferably 0mg. The first cycle sticky here recommends 1/4mg EOD, this is good for a first cycle. As you get more experience under your belt, the goal should be to move away from AI and run just the minimum you need to avoid negative estrogenic sides.

    In time, I think you will find other compounds (like the DHT derivatives) that you can run instead of a dedicated AI. They bring the dual benefit of controlling estrogen and having at least mild anabolic effects.
    I was afraid about gyno that's why i did 05mg dex from the beginning

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    Quote Originally Posted by King_ragnar View Post
    I was afraid about gyno that's why i did 05mg dex from the beginning
    We are all afraid of gyno at one point or another. There are better ways of preventing it, though.

    When you beat down estrogen with an ai, you do reduce the risk of gyno, but you also needlessly hinder gains, libido, and immunity.

    Nolvadex can prevent and eliminate gyno and is safe to use on cycle. Those dht derivatives I mentioned do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    We are all afraid of gyno at one point or another. There are better ways of preventing it, though.

    When you beat down estrogen with an ai, you do reduce the risk of gyno, but you also needlessly hinder gains, libido, and immunity.

    Nolvadex can prevent and eliminate gyno and is safe to use on cycle. Those dht derivatives I mentioned do the same.
    Τhat's why i didnt do test E and deca cause i am afraid of deca dick... ok then i will check it out to use the minimum i need

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    Quote Originally Posted by King_ragnar View Post
    Τhat's why i didnt do test E and deca cause i am afraid of deca dick... ok then i will check it out to use the minimum i need
    If you make sure you take deca with a dht derivative, you probably won't get deca dick. Go read some of the more modern threads on here that are about 19nor steroids. You do still want a test base, and you'll see a lot of people recommend taking a slightly higher than TRT dose of test and letting the 19nor do the heavy lifting. You also probably will need a DHT derivative as well. I'd suggest proviron, since it's easy on the body and will help with sexual side effects.

    But if you're doing a cutting cycle, then there are better drugs out there than deca. And since you've only had one test experience before, I'd suggest doing that again. Or better yet, do a 4-6 week cycle and use a shorter ester like Test P and maybe take anavar or primo with it (primo is quite a bit more expensive though).
    Last edited by Honkey_Kong; 02-20-2023 at 01:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    If you make sure you take deca with a dht derivative, you probably won't get deca dick. Go read some of the more modern threads on here that are about 19nor steroids. You do still want a test base, and you'll see a lot of people recommend taking a slightly higher than TRT dose of test and letting the 19nor do the heavy lifting. You also probably will need a DHT derivative as well. I'd suggest proviron, since it's easy on the body and will help with sexual side effects.
    That's what i read to run test about 300mg and let deca do the work 400-500mg and stuck with them proviron 50mg every day, but my main question is can i use this stuck for cutting?? a lot of people say that deca is better for bulk

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    Quote Originally Posted by King_ragnar View Post
    That's what i read to run test about 300mg and let deca do the work 400-500mg and stuck with them proviron 50mg every day, but my main question is can i use this stuck for cutting?? a lot of people say that deca is better for bulk
    I edited my post to add that in there while you were writing this one.

    The God's honest truth about cutting is it's not really so much the gear you're taking, but rather your diet, training and cardio. You could come up with the best ever "cutting cycle" and still put weight on, if your diet sucks. Likewise, you could setup the best bulk cycle and end up losing weight if your diet sucks.
    Last edited by Honkey_Kong; 02-20-2023 at 01:18 PM.

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