Test E only cycle

[Cylon357]

Thank you so much brother!! I really appreciate it, at this moment i have on my hands only test so i am thinking about 3rd option keeping test same and using it about 16-20 weeks (no more than that) then 3 weeks off and starting my pct, i am also using arimidex 0,5mg EOD

That is almost certainly too much adex. Some weeks you will be doing 2mg per week. That's a big number. Did you have high estrogen issues on your 500mg cycle? You actually do want estrogen, it has so many good benefits and positive impact on male physiology. That said, if you know you have issues, have at it, but do be careful to NOT hinder gains too much by tamping estrogen too much.

[King_ragnar]

That is almost certainly too much adex. Some weeks you will be doing 2mg per week. That's a big number. Did you have high estrogen issues on your 500mg cycle? You actually do want estrogen, it has so many good benefits and positive impact on male physiology. That said, if you know you have issues, have at it, but do be careful to NOT hinder gains too much by tamping estrogen too much.

I did the same on my 500mg cycle, dex 0,5 EOD. How much dex you think i shoult take?? 1mg per week?

[Cylon357]

I did the same on my 500mg cycle, dex 0,5 EOD. How much dex you think i shoult take?? 1mg per week?

As little as possible, preferably 0mg. The first cycle sticky here recommends 1/4mg EOD, this is good for a first cycle. As you get more experience under your belt, the goal should be to move away from AI and run just the minimum you need to avoid negative estrogenic sides.

In time, I think you will find other compounds (like the DHT derivatives) that you can run instead of a dedicated AI. They bring the dual benefit of controlling estrogen and having at least mild anabolic effects.

[King_ragnar]

As little as possible, preferably 0mg. The first cycle sticky here recommends 1/4mg EOD, this is good for a first cycle. As you get more experience under your belt, the goal should be to move away from AI and run just the minimum you need to avoid negative estrogenic sides.

In time, I think you will find other compounds (like the DHT derivatives) that you can run instead of a dedicated AI. They bring the dual benefit of controlling estrogen and having at least mild anabolic effects.

I was afraid about gyno that's why i did 05mg dex from the beginning

[Cylon357]

I was afraid about gyno that's why i did 05mg dex from the beginning

We are all afraid of gyno at one point or another. There are better ways of preventing it, though.

When you beat down estrogen with an ai, you do reduce the risk of gyno, but you also needlessly hinder gains, libido, and immunity.

Nolvadex can prevent and eliminate gyno and is safe to use on cycle. Those dht derivatives I mentioned do the same.

[King_ragnar]

We are all afraid of gyno at one point or another. There are better ways of preventing it, though.

When you beat down estrogen with an ai, you do reduce the risk of gyno, but you also needlessly hinder gains, libido, and immunity.

Nolvadex can prevent and eliminate gyno and is safe to use on cycle. Those dht derivatives I mentioned do the same.

Τhat's why i didnt do test E and deca cause i am afraid of deca dick... ok then i will check it out to use the minimum i need

[Honkey_Kong]

Τhat's why i didnt do test E and deca cause i am afraid of deca dick... ok then i will check it out to use the minimum i need

If you make sure you take deca with a dht derivative, you probably won't get deca dick. Go read some of the more modern threads on here that are about 19nor steroids. You do still want a test base, and you'll see a lot of people recommend taking a slightly higher than TRT dose of test and letting the 19nor do the heavy lifting. You also probably will need a DHT derivative as well. I'd suggest proviron, since it's easy on the body and will help with sexual side effects.

But if you're doing a cutting cycle, then there are better drugs out there than deca. And since you've only had one test experience before, I'd suggest doing that again. Or better yet, do a 4-6 week cycle and use a shorter ester like Test P and maybe take anavar or primo with it (primo is quite a bit more expensive though).

[Honkey_Kong]

I did the same on my 500mg cycle, dex 0,5 EOD. How much dex you think i shoult take?? 1mg per week?

On 500mg? There's a pretty good chance you might not need an AI. If you did need one, I'd start with .25mg E2D. You really don't want to overdo the AI. Your body needs estrogen. You don't ever want to take more than the bare minimum of any drug needed to give you the desired result. Less is more.


And really, if you're that scared of getting gyno, then you probably shouldn't take gear in the first place. It's a risk that can happen. And if you get it, there are things you can do about it (up to and including a mastectomy).