You'll want to read this!

[Juicedupmonkey]

Ronnie I'm unsure of how fats work to keep blood sugar from crashing. Like for the carb cycling diet when you say to take some fat for the first meal to keep blood sugar from crashing since you only take fats at breakfast and at bedtime. How does the fat do that exactly?

[Ronnie Rowland]

ronnie i'm unsure of how fats work to keep blood sugar from crashing. Like for the carb cycling diet when you say to take some fat for the first meal to keep blood sugar from crashing since you only take fats at breakfast and at bedtime. How does the fat do that exactly?during the night, your body has burned most of the available glucose in your body, and often you wake up with low blood sugar when dieting down hard. Reason being is that carbohydrates digest rapidly and then are absorbed and converted into energy. For example: Eating just a bowl of cereal in the morning can give you an energy boost, but two hours later you feel exhausted and very hungry. Combining complex, fiber-rich carbs with healthy fats slows down the digestion rate of carbs and spares the burning of glygogen in the morning and at night. note: There is always a mixture of fuels being used to some extent! fats also provides a reserve tank to draw on in the form of more slowly absorbing foods after the carbs are used up first.

above

[50+]

Ronnie,
As previously discussed, I started my 2nd reload about a week ago and was going to stack deca with the sust. 250. I've read much about getting deca dick and from what I have learned is that the possibility of being effected is much less when stacking with test. My question is, how likely would it be that I am effected in a negative way. It's very important to me and will not use the deca if the chances are still high being I'm dating a new girl and sure as hell don't want to have those kind of problems.
Thanks
Steve

[Ronnie Rowland]

ronnie,
as previously discussed, i started my 2nd reload about a week ago and was going to stack deca with the sust. 250. I've read much about getting deca dick and from what i have learned is that the possibility of being effected is much less when stacking with test. test will help. my question is, how likely would it be that i am effected in a negative way. it varies but there's a high chance it will lower your sex drive and even cause possible problems with getting an erection. Once you get an erection you can be okay for a while but deca does numb your privates per se. It's very important to me and will not use the deca if the chances are still high being i'm dating a new girl and sure as hell don't want to have those kind of problems. stay away from deca!!!thanks
steve

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[ricky23]

hi ronnie, what do you think the most effective way of carbing up is. i personally do it twice a week on off days (so they wont be used as energy and would be stored as glycogen in the muscles) taking in around 400g of carbs throughout the day. would this amount be enough considering i take in 150-200g carbs 100g fats and 600g protein a day? i also limit my carb intake in the evenings even on the carb up days - is this okay or would it be beneficial to keep carb refeeding going throughout the whole day?
also how is your recovery from the surgery going? hopefully you'll be back to your best soon.
thanks ronnie.

[chrisx]

Ron how long after the last test c injection should pct begin? 14-18 days when the cyp is out of the system??

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ron how long after the last test c injection should pct begin? 14-18 days when the cyp is out of the system??Honestly, you can wait 2 weeks to let it fully get out of your system or wait only 1 week after your last injection. Both ways work!

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[scotimus]

thanks for the quick reply ronnie. ive been checking the forum like every ten mins waiting for an answer.

i will be looking to start a slingshot cycle asap. i still may wait a bit as i have the time on=time off pounded in my head. also there are a few things i may wanna go to my doc for before i start blasting again(got bad acne from cycle,and also have suspicions of colitis or chrones disease or something similar to that.....i know i should really get on that one)but thanks for your two cents man

[Ronnie Rowland]

thanks for the quick reply ronnie. Ive been checking the forum like every ten mins waiting for an answer.

I will be looking to start a slingshot cycle asap. I still may wait a bit as i have the time on=time off pounded in my head. you can do time on = time off if you desire but it's not optimal. also there are a few things i may wanna go to my doc for before i start blasting again(got bad acne from cycle,and also have suspicions of colitis or chrones disease or something similar to that.....acne is common (get you some of the generic form of proactive at wamart) but if you have suspicion of of severe stomach problems please go see a doctor asp! i know i should really get on that one)but thanks for your two cents man

above

[Ronnie Rowland]

hi ronnie, what do you think the most effective way of carbing up is. carb up on leg and back day since trainign these muscles burn the most fuel and can tap into protein stores. I personally do it twice a week on off days (so they wont be used as energy and would be stored as glycogen in the muscles) taking in around 400g of carbs throughout the day. Would this amount be enough considering i take in 150-200g carbs 100g fats and 600g protein a day? it is for some but try 5-600 carbs and see what happens and reduce from there as needed. i also limit my carb intake in the evenings even on the carb up days - is this okay or would it be beneficial to keep carb refeeding going throughout the whole day? re-feed all day long
also how is your recovery from the surgery going? just got back from vacation and started lifting heavy this week. I am sore as all get out..it feels good! hopefully you'll be back to your best soon.
Thanks ronnie.

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[johnmaher1985]

ive just started using steroids an am reading all this stuff on forums an im confused to **** lol can anyone help me out with what im mena be doin with sus an deca, how often do i need to take each one an for how long? an do ya get better gains injecting it in ya shoulders? im a major novice so any help would be appreciated, thanks

[Ronnie Rowland]

ive just started using steroids an am reading all this stuff on forums an im confused to **** lol can anyone help me out with what im mena be doin with sus an deca, how often do i need to take each one do 2 ccs of test and 1 cc of deca per week. Shoot test twice a week and deca once but you can shoot test only once a week. an for how long? 8 weeks for test/deca an do ya get better gains injecting it in ya shoulders? no...lol im a major novice so any help would be appreciated, thanks

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[BJJ]

???
start your own thread.

[burn219]

Alright lads,

Just read thu the workout and eager to start but I’m a lil confused about diet requirements for the prime. do u simply cut protein in half and replace the removed cals with carbs? what fat % do u recommend make up the diet? and finally, should the meals be set out like on the low carb/cal days of the blast diet?

thanx to Ronnie for posting this belter workout, LEGEND!

apologies if this has already been covered, just read thru the workout and I’m fried!

[Ronnie Rowland]

alright lads,

just read thu the workout and eager to start but i’m a lil confused about diet requirements for the prime. Do u simply cut protein in half and replace the removed cals with carbs? yes cut protein in half and replace with carbs. It's a prime per se but i call it a deload.what fat % do u recommend make up the diet? it really depends . Once protein needs are met and fuel needs are met through carb intake, "the rest is fats"! and finally, should the meals be set out like on the low carb/cal days of the blast diet? it can but it's not mandatory.

Thanx to ronnie for posting this belter workout, legend!

Apologies if this has already been covered, just read thru the workout and i’m fried!

above

[skeletal pump]

Ronnie, what do you prefer, barbell shrugs or dumbell shrugs? and if you do rear delts on back day do you also do them on shoulders day? if so do you do the same exercise on both days or change it up?

[ricky23]

ronnie, what are your thoughts on frontloading?
do you think theyre more suited to conventional cycles or can it be used with the 8 week reload and 2 week deload phase continuously?
thanks ronnie

[Ronnie Rowland]

ronnie, what do you prefer, barbell shrugs or dumbell shrugs? i like dumbbell. And if you do rear delts on back day do you also do them on shoulders day? no, just once a week! if so do you do the same exercise on both days or change it up?

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[rafter]

I'm 40yr old and I just got me test e and deca. I'm new at this and I was wondering, what would be a good dosage, how many times a week. And where at on the body.

Thanks

[JuliusPleaser]

where the hell is ronnie at?? lol

[Coca Cola]

I think everyone has notice the same thing, I too check this thread everyday even though I don't have anything to ask (since i asked so many questions already, lol!). But I haven't found any post by ronnie for quite a while.

Ronnie where are you? I hope everything is ok.

[scotimus]

hey ron.

start off by saying that this is the best thread on this forum. ive read 60-70% of the thread(no one person can read it all lol) and have learned a shit ton.props to you man and every one else with some great input.

i have a fairly basic question. did my first cycle march-may this year. 500mg/wk test E for 13 weeks. last shot was on may 28th with pct just finishing up on july 9th.

so i havent shot any AAS for basically 2 months now. i have managed to keep around 80% of my gains by following all the tips on this forum. I am anxious to keep the gains and actually keep growing on my next cycle which I tentatively scheduled for october or november start. I read through the slingshot system and I must say I love the idea and am very intrigued.

my question is have i been off long enough to start a 20 week reload/deload slingshot system? i would love to start blasting ASAP(who wouldnt?) but would like to see what you have to say. do i need to get bloodwork done to determine if I should start or not?

Stats
6-2"
220 lbs
Est 13-15% BF
28 YO

taking in approx 4500 cals per day. 90% clean foods with the odd cheat meal to make up the other 10%

was planning

1-8- 500mg/test E+450mg/deca per week
9-10-nothing
11-18-500g/test E+300mg/week tren enth
19-20-nothing
21 start full PCT

thanks in advance ronnie

[Ronnie Rowland]

hey ron.

Start off by saying that this is the best thread on this forum. thank you!ive read 60-70% of the thread(no one person can read it all lol) and have learned a shit ton.props to you man and every one else with some great input.

I have a fairly basic question. Did my first cycle march-may this year. 500mg/wk test e for 13 weeks. Last shot was on may 28th with pct just finishing up on july 9th.

So i havent shot any aas for basically 2 months now. I have managed to keep around 80% of my gains by following all the tips on this forum. I am anxious to keep the gains and actually keep growing on my next cycle which i tentatively scheduled for october or november start. I read through the slingshot system and i must say i love the idea and am very intrigued.

My question is have i been off long enough to start a 20 week reload/deload slingshot system? absolutely i would love to start blasting asap(who wouldnt?) but would like to see what you have to say. Do i need to get bloodwork done to determine if i should start or not? you can get blood work done 6 weeks after 20 week slingshot cycle.
stats
6-2"
220 lbs
est 13-15% bf
28 yo

taking in approx 4500 cals per day. 90% clean foods with the odd cheat meal to make up the other 10%

was planning

1-8- 500mg/test e+450mg/deca per week
9-10-nothing (run 250 mgs of test e per week)
11-18-500g/test e+300mg/week tren enth
19-20-nothing (run 250 mgs of test e per week)21 start full pct

thanks in advance ronnie

above

[Baseball_Player85]

I read your entire post and I have to say it's exceptional. I am going to try it out! thanks!

[juicy2619]

totally agree with everything said here !

[MACHINE5150]

AWESOME POST!!! I'm starting a Deca/Test cycle in a couple weeks and am changing it to an 8 week instead of a 10 week cycle after reading this. Thanks for the info.

[Rizdizzle]

Vastly Informative

[bubbles420]

hey ronnie im new on here and i am glad i came nice read. just wondering what a good cycle would be and a good place to get it. for about 25 lb. and alot of gain!! thanks again for the read

[Tommy Gunn]

Ronnie, I've read a lot of your posts and threads over the years, you're VERY knowledgeable. I need your help.

I'm a 30 year old white male who's been lifting on/off for 16 years. I'm 6' 270 with some body fat and a little gut on me but pretty jacked. I'm on 200 mg test cyp weekly prescribed by doc because I have naturally low testosterone and also on 3 IU HGH nightly prescribed by doc because I have adult growth hormone deficiency. My goal is just to get big and strong (pretty simple, huh? LOL). I never have competed in powerlifting or bodybuilding and never will (although I LOVE both sports).

I will be doing a routine where I train a body part once every 7 days. Here it is:

3 days a week weightlifting routine (Mon, Weds, Fri):

*I do all exercises with reps of 8-10 keeping the same weight each set with a weight that I can do atleast 8 reps but can't do for more than 10 reps. I progress the weights when I can do all sets with 10 reps. All sets listed are work sets to failure (I stop when I complete a rep and know I can't get the next rep). I warm up properly and stretch out before, during, and after working out. I do warm up sets when needed. I don't have a specific rest time between sets. I just move on to the next set when I feel I'm ready. After my workout I drink a PWO shake consisting of 50 g whey protein and 100 g dextrose.

Mon.

1. Wide grip lat pulldowns to the front 4x8-10
2. Bent over two arm db rows to chest with elbows flared 4x8-10 (as seen here except I will do them with db instead of a bb: http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...arDeltRow.html)
3. Seated db curls 3x8-10
4. 4 way neck machine (front, left, right, back) 3x8-10 all 4 sides

Weds.

1. Sled hack squat machine 4x8-10
2. Lying leg curls 4x8-10
3. Standing calf raises 4x8-10
4. Lying crunch machine 3x8-10

Fri.

1. Flat db bench press 3x8-10
2. Incline db bench press 3x8-10
3. Seated db lateral raises 4x8-10
4. Tricep pushdowns 3x8-10

2 questions:

1. How does this routine look?

2. Can you build a big, strong body by training a body part only once every 7 days?

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=Tommy Gunn;5294162]Ronnie, I've read a lot of your posts and threads over the years, you're VERY knowledgeable. I need your help.

I'm a 30 year old white male who's been lifting on/off for 16 years. I'm 6' 270 with some body fat and a little gut on me but pretty jacked. I'm on 200 mg test cyp weekly prescribed by doc because I have naturally low testosterone and also on 3 IU HGH nightly prescribed by doc because I have adult growth hormone deficiency. My goal is just to get big and strong (pretty simple, huh? LOL). I never have competed in powerlifting or bodybuilding and never will (although I LOVE both sports).

I will be doing a routine where I train a body part once every 7 days. Here it is:

3 days a week weightlifting routine (Mon, Weds, Fri):

*I do all exercises with reps of 8-10 keeping the same weight each set with a weight that I can do atleast 8 reps but can't do for more than 10 reps. I progress the weights when I can do all sets with 10 reps. All sets listed are work sets to failure (I stop when I complete a rep and know I can't get the next rep). I warm up properly and stretch out before, during, and after working out. (DO NOT STETHC OUT BEFORE OR DURING EXERCISES LIKE SQUATS AS IT CAUSE CAUSE YOU TO USE LOOSE FORM AND AN INJURY COULD RESULTS!) I do warm up sets when needed.GOOD AS IT'S SAFER TO DO ACTIVE STRETCHING. I don't have a specific rest time between sets. I just move on to the next set when I feel I'm ready. After my workout I drink a PWO shake consisting of 50 g whey protein and 100 g dextrose.(YOU DO NOT NEED 100 GRAMS POST WORKOUT UNLESS YOU ARE USING INSULIN. THAT MANY CARBS WILL MOST CERTAINLY CAUSE FAT GAIN UNLESS YOU ARE AN ECTOMORPH AND FROM WHAT YOU HAVE DESCRIBED YOU ARE MORE MESO/ENDO.) STAY WITH AROUND 40 GRAMS OR YOU CAN SKIP DEXTROSE ALL TOGETHER AND EAT A WHOLE MEAL.

Mon.

1. Wide grip lat pulldowns to the front 4x8-10
2. Bent over two arm db rows to chest with elbows flared 4x8-10 (as seen here except I will do them with db instead of a bb: http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...arDeltRow.html)
3. Seated db curls 3x8-10
4. 4 way neck machine (front, left, right, back) 3x8-10 all 4 sides

AND TOO FEW EXERCISE!TOO LITTLE VOLUME


Weds.
1. Sled hack squat machine 4x8-10
2. Lying leg curls 4x8-10
3. Standing calf raises 4x8-10
4. Lying crunch machine 3x8-10

AGAIN TOO FEW EXERCISES AND TOO LITTLE VOLUME




Fri.

1. Flat db bench press 3x8-10
2. Incline db bench press 3x8-10
3. Seated db lateral raises 4x8-10
4. Tricep pushdowns 3x8-10

TOO FEW EXERCISES AND TOO LITTLE VOLUME

2 questions:

1. How does this routine look? IT'S NOT OPTIMAL BY ANY MEANS

2. Can you build a big, strong body by training a body part only once every 7 days?YES, IT'S THE BEST WAY BUT YOU HAVE TO DO MORE VOLUME PER BODYPART. 6-12 SETS TO FAILURE ONCE PER WEEK![/QUOTE]ABOVE

[Tommy Gunn]

[QUOTE=Ronnie Rowland;5297741]

Ronnie, I've read a lot of your posts and threads over the years, you're VERY knowledgeable. I need your help.

I'm a 30 year old white male who's been lifting on/off for 16 years. I'm 6' 270 with some body fat and a little gut on me but pretty jacked. I'm on 200 mg test cyp weekly prescribed by doc because I have naturally low testosterone and also on 3 IU HGH nightly prescribed by doc because I have adult growth hormone deficiency. My goal is just to get big and strong (pretty simple, huh? LOL). I never have competed in powerlifting or bodybuilding and never will (although I LOVE both sports).

I will be doing a routine where I train a body part once every 7 days. Here it is:

3 days a week weightlifting routine (Mon, Weds, Fri):

*I do all exercises with reps of 8-10 keeping the same weight each set with a weight that I can do atleast 8 reps but can't do for more than 10 reps. I progress the weights when I can do all sets with 10 reps. All sets listed are work sets to failure (I stop when I complete a rep and know I can't get the next rep). I warm up properly and stretch out before, during, and after working out. (DO NOT STETHC OUT BEFORE OR DURING EXERCISES LIKE SQUATS AS IT CAUSE CAUSE YOU TO USE LOOSE FORM AND AN INJURY COULD RESULTS!) I do warm up sets when needed.GOOD AS IT'S SAFER TO DO ACTIVE STRETCHING. I don't have a specific rest time between sets. I just move on to the next set when I feel I'm ready. After my workout I drink a PWO shake consisting of 50 g whey protein and 100 g dextrose.(YOU DO NOT NEED 100 GRAMS POST WORKOUT UNLESS YOU ARE USING INSULIN. THAT MANY CARBS WILL MOST CERTAINLY CAUSE FAT GAIN UNLESS YOU ARE AN ECTOMORPH AND FROM WHAT YOU HAVE DESCRIBED YOU ARE MORE MESO/ENDO.) STAY WITH AROUND 40 GRAMS OR YOU CAN SKIP DEXTROSE ALL TOGETHER AND EAT A WHOLE MEAL.

Mon.

1. Wide grip lat pulldowns to the front 4x8-10
2. Bent over two arm db rows to chest with elbows flared 4x8-10 (as seen here except I will do them with db instead of a bb: http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...arDeltRow.html)
3. Seated db curls 3x8-10
4. 4 way neck machine (front, left, right, back) 3x8-10 all 4 sides

AND TOO FEW EXERCISE!TOO LITTLE VOLUME


Weds.
1. Sled hack squat machine 4x8-10
2. Lying leg curls 4x8-10
3. Standing calf raises 4x8-10
4. Lying crunch machine 3x8-10

AGAIN TOO FEW EXERCISES AND TOO LITTLE VOLUME




Fri.

1. Flat db bench press 3x8-10
2. Incline db bench press 3x8-10
3. Seated db lateral raises 4x8-10
4. Tricep pushdowns 3x8-10

TOO FEW EXERCISES AND TOO LITTLE VOLUME

2 questions:

1. How does this routine look? IT'S NOT OPTIMAL BY ANY MEANS

2. Can you build a big, strong body by training a body part only once every 7 days?YES, IT'S THE BEST WAY BUT YOU HAVE TO DO MORE VOLUME PER BODYPART. 6-12 SETS TO FAILURE ONCE PER WEEK![/QUOTE]ABOVE

Thanks Ronnie. It looks like I'm going to have to go back to the drawing board LOL

[The Titan99]

Hey Ron,
I'm in the 3rd week of carb cycling and it's going great. One thing though. My carb up days are Mon. (Chest) and Thurs (Legs). I'm felling a drop in energy and strength on those days. Really struggling to go up in weight/Reps. The days following are huge increases! Is this normal? My Macro breakdown is 350p/200c/80f 3000 cals. I'm 245 lb 17% BF but dropping fast.

[Ronnie Rowland]

hey ronnie im new on here and i am glad i came nice read. Just wondering what a good cycle would be and a good place to get it. For about 25 lb. And alot of gain!! Thanks again for the read please read the rules! You cannot ask for source info on public forum.

above

[Ronnie Rowland]

hey ronnie im new on here and i am glad i came nice read. Just wondering what a good cycle would be and a good place to get it. For about 25 lb. And alot of gain!! Thanks again for the readplease read the rules! You cannot ask for source info on public forum.

above

[adlyn]

Hi Ronnie, Im a noob here and was very impressed by the level of your knowledge and exprience. I've read each and every single page of this thread, belived me it took me DAYSss to finish it and only today I got onto this page. Since you are the knowledgable one, I would like a piece of your advice or recommendation on how should myself go about a cycle, what type and quantity should I go about. Previously early this year I was on a cycle which was advice by some friends on what to take and how much.

I was on Sustanon 250 for 8week. The cycle goes like:
Week 1: 1ml (once per week)
Week 2: 1ml (twice per week)
Week 3: 1ml (three time per week)
Week 4: 1ml (four time per week)
Week 5: 1ml (four time per week)
Week 6: 1ml (three time per week)
Week 7: 1ml (two time per week)
Week 8: 1ml (one time per week)

Right after the 8th week I was told by a friend I should take Chromi or Clomid im not really sure. It was a red tab. I was told I need to take one tab a day for the next 10 days only and I did. Right after that cycle, I was on clen for the next 2 month plus or so. It goes like 2 days on 2 days off untill im finish with the 100 tabs. Each day I took 3 tabs at one go. And that was how my cycle was.

But after reading all this post on this thread, I feel what I did was like shit or felt I was cheated due im very noob in this, I just followed blindly on the advices without knowing anything or even bothered to do more research.I did some minor research on what type of steroid, the side effects and what it can actually do. So with your expertise I seek ur advice on how to go about my next cycle with pct and fine tune it. My details are as follows:

Age: 25/Male/Asian (is fine to start on cycle?)
Weight: 77kg
Height: 180cm
Exprience on workout: 2 year plus(1 years seriously commited and the other on off as im tied up with work)
Diet: I try to have 160g of protein per day which make off 80g by whey protein and 80g by food. Carbs I dont really count as I only take carbs from wheat or low GI food (pasta, sweet potato, oat meal and etc). My Fat came from Olive oil or Canola oil and snack on almond or chick peas. Minimum sugar and salt. All of that I break it into 5 to 6 small meal everyday. My supplement is Vitamin B complex, Vitamin C 1000, whey protein and proscar as my hair is dropping .
BMI: 24 (not sure does it matter)
Frequency of workout: 3 to 4 time per week



What I have currently in mind for my next cycle is:
Sus 250 or Test Prep, Deca and D-Bol. (not sure is it too little or too much for myself)



Thanks in advance.....

[Indian Muscle]

Hey Ron, I am currently on week 4 of 2nd reload and till now I have not gained even a single lb.

1st Cycle - 8 week, 500mg Sust & 200mg Deca (gained around 17lbs)

2nd Cycle(1st reload) - 8 week, 500mg Test E & 300mg Deca (gained around 11bs)

2nd Cycle (2nd reload) - currently in week 4, 750mg Test E & 300mg Deca.

My diet is much better that the previous cycle and even the dosage is high than the previous cycle but still i have not made any gains, what could be the reason? I am planning to switch to Sust from week 5 since i made the best gains on Sust. All the Test i buy is genuine since it is legal here and Deca (from Canada) is from a reliable source so there is no way that i am using a fake. Please help!

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=Indian Muscle;5296667]Hey Ron, I am currently on week 4 of 2nd reload and till now I have not gained even a single lb.

1st Cycle - 8 week, 500mg Sust & 200mg Deca (gained around 17lbs)

2nd Cycle(1st reload) - 8 week, 500mg Test E & 300mg Deca (gained around 11bs)

2nd Cycle (2nd reload) - currently in week 4, 750mg Test E & 300mg Deca.

My diet is much better that the previous cycle and even the dosage is high than the previous cycle but still i have not made any gains, what could be the reason? I am planning to switch to Sust from week 5 since i made the best gains on Sust. All the Test i buy is genuine since it is legal here and Deca (from Canada) is from a reliable source so there is no way that i am using a fake. Please help! For your body type the dosages are too low at this point. Add 50 mgs of d-bol per day to the test/deca you are already taking. Next stop is more test and some GH.[/QUOTE]ABOVE

[adlyn]

Hi Ronnie, Im a noob here and was very impressed by the level of your knowledge and exprience. I've read each and every single page of this thread, belived me it took me DAYSss to finish it and only today I got onto this page. Since you are the knowledgable one, I would like a piece of your advice or recommendation on how should myself go about a cycle, what type and quantity should I go about. Previously early this year I was on a cycle which was advice by some friends on what to take and how much.

I was on Sustanon 250 for 8week. The cycle goes like:
Week 1: 1ml (once per week)
Week 2: 1ml (twice per week)
Week 3: 1ml (three time per week)
Week 4: 1ml (four time per week)
Week 5: 1ml (four time per week)
Week 6: 1ml (three time per week)
Week 7: 1ml (two time per week)
Week 8: 1ml (one time per week)

Right after the 8th week I was told by a friend I should take Chromi or Clomid im not really sure. It was a red tab. I was told I need to take one tab a day for the next 10 days only and I did. Right after that cycle, I was on clen for the next 2 month plus or so. It goes like 2 days on 2 days off untill im finish with the 100 tabs. Each day I took 3 tabs at one go. And that was how my cycle was.

But after reading all this post on this thread, I feel what I did was like shit or felt I was cheated due im very noob in this, I just followed blindly on the advices without knowing anything or even bothered to do more research.I did some minor research on what type of steroid, the side effects and what it can actually do. So with your expertise I seek ur advice on how to go about my next cycle with pct and fine tune it. My details are as follows:

Age: 25/Male/Asian (is fine to start on cycle?)
Weight: 77kg
Height: 180cm
Exprience on workout: 2 year plus(1 years seriously commited and the other on off as im tied up with work)
Diet: I try to have 160g of protein per day which make off 80g by whey protein and 80g by food. Carbs I dont really count as I only take carbs from wheat or low GI food (pasta, sweet potato, oat meal and etc). My Fat came from Olive oil or Canola oil and snack on almond or chick peas. Minimum sugar and salt. All of that I break it into 5 to 6 small meal everyday. My supplement is Vitamin B complex, Vitamin C 1000, whey protein and proscar as my hair is dropping .
BMI: 24 (not sure does it matter)
Frequency of workout: 3 to 4 time per week



What I have currently in mind for my next cycle is:
Sus 250 or Test Prep, Deca and D-Bol. (not sure is it too little or too much for myself)



Thanks in advance.....

[VASCULAR VINCE]

thank you...thank you...ronnie...best thread on the internet bro!!!!

[Ronnie Rowland]

hi ronnie, im a noob here and was very impressed by the level of your knowledge and exprience. I've read each and every single page of this thread, belived me it took me daysss to finish it and only today i got onto this page. Since you are the knowledgable one, i would like a piece of your advice or recommendation on how should myself go about a cycle, what type and quantity should i go about. Previously early this year i was on a cycle which was advice by some friends on what to take and how much.

I was on sustanon 250 for 8week. The cycle goes like:
Week 1: 1ml (once per week)
week 2: 1ml (twice per week)
week 3: 1ml (three time per week)
week 4: 1ml (four time per week)
week 5: 1ml (four time per week)
week 6: 1ml (three time per week)
week 7: 1ml (two time per week)
week 8: 1ml (one time per week)

right after the 8th week i was told by a friend i should take chromi or clomid im not really sure. It was a red tab. I was told i need to take one tab a day for the next 10 days only and i did. Right after that cycle, i was on clen for the next 2 month plus or so. It goes like 2 days on 2 days off untill im finish with the 100 tabs. Each day i took 3 tabs at one go. And that was how my cycle was.

But after reading all this post on this thread, i feel what i did was like shit or felt i was cheated due im very noob in this, i just followed blindly on the advices without knowing anything or even bothered to do more research. yes you got bad advice! What you did was merely "hrt" not a real steroid cycle! i did some minor research on what type of steroid, the side effects and what it can actually do. So with your expertise i seek ur advice on how to go about my next cycle with pct and fine tune it. My details are as follows:

Age: 25/male/asian (is fine to start on cycle?)
weight: 77kg
height: 180cm
exprience on workout: 2 year plus(1 years seriously commited and the other on off as im tied up with work)
diet: I try to have 160g of protein per day which make off 80g by whey protein and 80g by food. you'll need way more protein from real food than 80 grams per day unless you are a genetic freak! carbs i dont really count as i only take carbs from wheat or low gi food (pasta, sweet potato, oat meal and etc). My fat came from olive oil or canola oil and snack on almond or chick peas. Minimum sugar and salt. All of that i break it into 5 to 6 small meal everyday. My supplement is vitamin b complex, vitamin c 1000, whey protein and proscar as my hair is dropping .
Bmi: 24 (not sure does it matter)
frequency of workout: 3 to 4 time per week



what i have currently in mind for my next cycle is:
Sus 250 or test prep, deca and d-bol. (not sure is it too little or too much for myself)

do a 20 week slingshot cycle consisting of 2 phases!

phase 1:
weeks 1-8 (reload) sustanon 1- cc injected eod or mwf/deca 400 mgs wk
weeks 9-10 (deload) sustanon 1-cc 1 times per week
phase 2:
weeks 11-18 (reload) sustanon 1-cc eod/400 mgs of deca/25 mgs of d-bol daily
weeks 19-20 1 shot of sustanon wk

weeks 21-24-pct


thanks in advance.....

above