You'll want to read this!

[slimshady01]

[QUOTE=Ronnie Rowland;5687686]

our inclined barbell bench is not adjustable and prob 30 degrees, is this too much and be a waiste of time? IT IS UNLESS YO ARE GENTICALLY GIFTED IN UPPER CHEST AREA. DO DUMBBELL INCLINES USING AN ADJUSTABLE SEAT OR SMITH MACHINE IS EVEN BETTER. USE A MEDIUM/CLOSE GRIP TO INCREASE RANGE OF MOTION u can feel it working very high onda chest. DO YOU GET SORE IN UPPER CHEST AREA OR FRONT DELTS? IF YOU HAVE A SHALLOW UPPER CHEST ODDS ARE GOOD IT WILL NEVER DO A LOT AS THE UPPER CHEST IS LIKE CALVES (YOU EITHER HAVE IT OR YOU DON'T BUT IT CAN BE IMPROVED) also i still wasnt given accutane but was given tetralysal. been taking them since saturday and since monday ive a permanent pain in my right hamstring out of no where , its like ive pulled or strained it and feels the same if ive my leg straight or bent, wudnt have anything to do with weakening the tendons or anything like uve mentioned to me or have i just strained it unknowns to myself ? IT HAPPENED SO FAST ITS PROBABLY JUST A STRAIN.[/QUOTE][B]NOTE: [/B][U]HERES A PICTURE I TOOK OF MY WIFE A FEW DAYS AGO. NOTICE HOW HER UPPER CHEST HAS A LOT OF VASCULARITY AND CROSS STRIATION. I SIMPLY CANNOT GET THOSE KIND OF CROSS STRIATIONS IN MY UPPER PECS AND WE DO THE SAME EXERCISES FOR THAT AREA ONCE A WEEK (3 SETS OF 15 DEGREE INCLINES USING A SMITH MACHINE). I AM ALSO ABLE TO USE MORE WEIGHT ON INCLINES THAN HER SO IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU THAT GENETICS MORE SO THAN ANY OTHER FACTOR DETERMINE MUSCLE GROWTH, SIZE, SHAPE, DETAILS, ETC![/U]

I saw this on your FB page to. All i can say is amazing. You can tell her hard work is paying off.

I wish i had her genetics!

[slimshady01]

Ronnie im finishing up my first deload and will start the next reload on monday.

First 8 weeks were test 500 and deca 400.

I planned on doing test 750 and deca 400 for the last 8.

I may go another route im not quite sure as im confused. Im worried my hair may be thinning out and im nervous taking the test to 750mg.

My 2 options right now are keep the test at 500ish and up the deca to 600. I know i may screw myself sexually but i can live with that for 8 weeks.

Second option is forget bulking anymore, since I know i wont ever do higher doses of test in the fear of hairloss I may just start a cut.

I can be happy at 175 shredded, im 192 now but carrying a little fat on the belly, seem to be leaner everywhere else.

So what do you recommend.

Option 1 - Test 500ish Deca 600 keep bulking this last reload and then i would plan a 4 week pct then right away start a cut.

Option 2 start a cut now. Not sure if I could cut with Deca and if so how much would you run and how much test. I also have 5000mg of var that i plan on using to but I would like to get around 12% before adding the var.

So if i could cut with deca and test im thinking 500test 400 deca for 8 weeks then test 500 and var 75mg a day for another 8 with no deload since im cutting.

If you think i could still put on some nice mass with option 1 I would go with that and then take a month off and then start option 2. If you think option 1 is pointless then I would start the cut now.

What do you think? I hope this makes sense to you.

Also i only stick to the following compounds due to me being prone to hairloss.

Deca
Test "i can control DHT somewhat"
Var
Tbol
EQ which is a waste and i wont ever run.

Other things like tren dbol, adrol i wont touch even though i would love to.

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=slimshady01;5687443]Ronnie im finishing up my first deload and will start the next reload on monday.

First 8 weeks were test 500 and deca 400.

I planned on doing test 750 and deca 400 for the last 8.

I may go another route im not quite sure as im confused. Im worried my hair may be thinning out and im nervous taking the test to 750mg.

My 2 options right now are keep the test at 500ish and up the deca to 600. I know i may screw myself sexually but i can live with that for 8 weeks.

Second option is forget bulking anymore, since I know i wont ever do higher doses of test in the fear of hairloss I may just start a cut.

I can be happy at 175 shredded, im 192 now but carrying a little fat on the belly, seem to be leaner everywhere else.

So what do you recommend. I would cut if you are worried about hair loss or you could use a dht blocker and take as much test as you want and bulk up even further.

Option 1 - Test 500ish Deca 600 keep bulking this last reload and then i would plan a 4 week pct then right away start a cut.

Option 2 start a cut now. Not sure if I could cut with Deca and if so how much would you run and how much test. I also have 5000mg of var that i plan on using to but I would like to get around 12% before adding the var. I would start var immediatedly on a cut to help maintain strength and 3-400 mgs of deca per week.

So if i could cut with deca and test im thinking 500test 400 deca for 8 weeks then test 500 and var 75mg a day for another 8 with no deload since im cutting. You could do this but i would run var all the way through if you can afford itIf you think i could still put on some nice mass with option 1 I would go with that and then take a month off and then start option 2. If you think option 1 is pointless then I would start the cut now. I would cut.What do you think? I hope this makes sense to you.

Also i only stick to the following compounds due to me being prone to hairloss.

Deca
Test "i can control DHT somewhat"
Var
Tbol
EQ which is a waste and i wont ever run.

Other things like tren dbol, adrol i wont touch even though i would love to. you may try winstrol but it can make your hair thin as well. primobolan and var with a little test may be best for you![/QUOTE]above

[slimshady01]

[QUOTE=Ronnie Rowland;5690513]

Ronnie im finishing up my first deload and will start the next reload on monday.

First 8 weeks were test 500 and deca 400.

I planned on doing test 750 and deca 400 for the last 8.

I may go another route im not quite sure as im confused. Im worried my hair may be thinning out and im nervous taking the test to 750mg.

My 2 options right now are keep the test at 500ish and up the deca to 600. I know i may screw myself sexually but i can live with that for 8 weeks.

Second option is forget bulking anymore, since I know i wont ever do higher doses of test in the fear of hairloss I may just start a cut.

I can be happy at 175 shredded, im 192 now but carrying a little fat on the belly, seem to be leaner everywhere else.

So what do you recommend. I would cut if you are worried about hair loss or you could use a dht blocker and take as much test as you want and bulk up even further.

Option 1 - Test 500ish Deca 600 keep bulking this last reload and then i would plan a 4 week pct then right away start a cut.

Option 2 start a cut now. Not sure if I could cut with Deca and if so how much would you run and how much test. I also have 5000mg of var that i plan on using to but I would like to get around 12% before adding the var. I would start var immediatedly on a cut to help maintain strength and 3-400 mgs of deca per week.

So if i could cut with deca and test im thinking 500test 400 deca for 8 weeks then test 500 and var 75mg a day for another 8 with no deload since im cutting. You could do this but i would run var all the way through if you can afford itIf you think i could still put on some nice mass with option 1 I would go with that and then take a month off and then start option 2. If you think option 1 is pointless then I would start the cut now. I would cut.What do you think? I hope this makes sense to you.

Also i only stick to the following compounds due to me being prone to hairloss.

Deca
Test "i can control DHT somewhat"
Var
Tbol
EQ which is a waste and i wont ever run.

Other things like tren dbol, adrol i wont touch even though i would love to. you may try winstrol but it can make your hair thin as well. primobolan and var with a little test may be best for you![/QUOTE]above

Thanks so much Ronnie,

I pinned this morning for the 750mg and 400deca but still leary about the hair. My wife says im the same and nothing has changed "she cuts my hair". I just get worried because ive had thin fine hair my whole life and done a lot to hold onto it. "i would look horrible bald".

I may give it a shot and try the 750mg the last 8 week reload here and see how i do. I doubt i will go this high again but i guess ill try it this time.

My goal is to cut right after. Should i just do 2 week deload and jump right into a 16 week cut after this 20 week run with no deloads. Or would you have me take a month PCT break then start the cutting cycle. I have 3 kids and another in the wifes belly now "that one was unexpcted" and absolutley do not want anymore, its hard enough on a single income as my wife doesnt work. Oh and im 35 years old.

For my cutting cycle I know you said run var staight through, but my question is, is it safe to run var 16 weeks at 75mg. I know its mild but its not that good on cholesterol.

So for the cutting cycle can you help me create one based on the compounds i run with my fine hair.

IM thinking

Test 300mg "can do 400 mb 500 depending how this 750 run goes"
Anavar 75mg
I have tons of deca but as you stated im thinking primo would be better?
Ive never ran Primo so im not sure what dose, ive seen 200-400mg a week? Stuff is expensive but ill give it a go.

On a side note

Ive almost considered staying on a low dose test TRT because i actually feel like i have a better quality of life.
My sex drive has been crap since my mid 20s for some reason even though blood tests have been on the low normal range. Ive been married almost 5 years and ive had almost a non existent sex drive that has made my wife insecure with herself. Ever since being on test we are having sex a good once a day and she and I are loving it. I told her i was going to come off completely in fear of losing my hair and she almost paniced. Bottom line is i think Test saved my marriage.

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=slimshady01;5691052]

Thanks so much Ronnie,

I pinned this morning for the 750mg and 400deca but still leary about the hair. My wife says im the same and nothing has changed "she cuts my hair". I just get worried because ive had thin fine hair my whole life and done a lot to hold onto it. "i would look horrible bald". I HAVE FINE HAIR AS WELL BUT LUCKILY IT HAS NOT RECEEDED MUCH AT AGE 45. THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO WATCH OUT FOR!I may give it a shot and try the 750mg the last 8 week reload here and see how i do. I doubt i will go this high again but i guess ill try it this time.

My goal is to cut right after. Should i just do 2 week deload and jump right into a 16 week cut after this 20 week run with no deloads. START 16 WEEK NON-STOP CUT AFTER 2 WEEK DELOAD (WEEKS 19-20). Or would you have me take a month PCT break then start the cutting cycle. I have 3 kids and another in the wifes belly now "that one was unexpcted" and absolutley do not want anymore, its hard enough on a single income as my wife doesnt work. Oh and im 35 years old. FORGET PCT FOREVER..LOL..JUMP STRAIGHT INTO CUTTING PHASE!For my cutting cycle I know you said run var staight through, but my question is, is it safe to run var 16 weeks at 75mg. I know its mild but its not that good on cholesterol. I WOULD RUN 50 MGS ED FOR 16 WEEKS. SINCE YOU ARE GOING TO BE EATING CLEAN AND DOING CARDIO-ANY SMALL CHOLESTEROL WON'T BE OF CONCERN AS EVERYTHING ELSE WILL COMBAT IT.
So for the cutting cycle can you help me create one based on the compounds i run with my fine hair.

IM thinking

Test 300mg "can do 400 mb 500 depending how this 750 run goes"
Anavar 75mg
I have tons of deca but as you stated im thinking primo would be better?
Ive never ran Primo so im not sure what dose, ive seen 200-400mg a week? Stuff is expensive but ill give it a go.

TEST 500 MGS PER WEEK IF 750 GOES FINE. IF NOT DROP DOWN TO 300
ANAVAR 50 MGS DAILY. IF SEX DRIVE DECREASES DROP DOWN TO 20 PER DAY.
PRIMOBOLAN 800 PER WEEKOn a side note

Ive almost considered staying on a low dose test TRT because i actually feel like i have a better quality of life. I AGREE!My sex drive has been crap since my mid 20s for some reason even though blood tests have been on the low normal range. Ive been married almost 5 years and ive had almost a non existent sex drive that has made my wife insecure with herself. Ever since being on test we are having sex a good once a day and she and I are loving it. I told her i was going to come off completely in fear of losing my hair and she almost paniced. Bottom line is i think Test saved my marriage.YOU'D BE BETTER OFF WITH NO HAIR THAN NO SEX DRIVE! I WOULD CUT ALL MY HAIR OFF IT THATS WHAT IT TOOK TO GET A SEX DRIVE. THATS ABOUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN LIFE. EVEN MORE SO THAN BIG MUSCLES IN MY BOOK!

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[Gi812Many]

Hey Ronnie,

Not new to the site, just can not remember my previous screen name. Im starting back AS use after a 7 year period of no use. Really love the Reload/Deload idea...I did something similar back in the day but it was 16 weeks total w/ an increase in the amount of AS use at 9 weeks and a 4 week peroid where I would cruise. Looking at from that perspective I can see where this would work and probably save money as well...My question for you, Tren E...Im going to be using 500mgs of Test E, 600mgs of EQ and was going to use 300mgs of Tren E. How do you feel about running Tren so often? 8 weeks all 3 compounds - 2 weeks 250mgs of Test E / Weekly....then obviously start up with the previous reload and maybe up the dosages?

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=Gi812Many;5688293]Hey Ronnie,

Not new to the site, just can not remember my previous screen name. Im starting back AS use after a 7 year period of no use. Really love the Reload/Deload idea...I did something similar back in the day but it was 16 weeks total w/ an increase in the amount of AS use at 9 weeks and a 4 week peroid where I would cruise. Looking at from that perspective I can see where this would work and probably save money as well...My question for you, Tren E...Im going to be using 500mgs of Test E, 600mgs of EQ and was going to use 300mgs of Tren E. How do you feel about running Tren so often? I think it fine to run tren often . The orals like anadrol are the ones to be concerned with 8 weeks all 3 compounds - 2 weeks 250mgs of Test E / Weekly....then obviously start up with the previous reload and maybe up the dosages? Looks good. I would not waste my money on EQ unless you need an increase in apettite. Better to use more test or tren![/QUOTE]above

[The Titan99]

Hey Ron, quick workout question. I recently started a new reload and on leg night I do 3 working sets of squats on the Smith machine, 3 sets of hack squats (machine) and 3 sets of leg extensions for quads. I also do 6 sets of leg curls and 8 sets of calf raises(5 standing, 3 seated). I just tried switching leg presses for hack squats. I like the feel of it and it seems to hit the glutes more which is something I need to work on. It doesn't seem to hit the quads as hard though. If I wanted to leave the leg presses in, should I do more squats, leg extensions or leave it like it is? Thanks Buddy!!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey Ron, quick workout question. I recently started a new reload and on leg night I do 3 working sets of squats on the Smith machine, 3 sets of hack squats (machine) and 3 sets of leg extensions for quads. I also do 6 sets of leg curls and 8 sets of calf raises(5 standing, 3 seated). I just tried switching leg presses for hack squats. I like the feel of it and it seems to hit the glutes more which is something I need to work on. It doesn't seem to hit the quads as hard though. If I wanted to leave the leg presses in, should I do more squats, leg extensions or leave it like it is? Thanks Buddy!!

LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS TO PREVENT OVER-TRAINING OF CNS AND JOINTS. Going with a wide stance with feet fairly high on leg presses really stimulates the glutes. Lunges on a smith machine using a step up are even better for glute development. May want to give those a try !

[The Titan99]

Got it man, thanks a lot!!

[ricky23]

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[kelevra]

Leg help during cut PLZ..
Squat 135 & 225 for a set of 10 each to warm up.
Squat 3x 315 for 12 or so. (smart failure)
Lunges weighted 2 sets to failure
Ex 2 sets 14-16 reps (to low of reps hurt knees on this lift)
Ham Curl 3 sets 8-10 reps (smart failure)
10sets + 2 warm ups
Is this too much volume for cutting? I decreased the weight used on Squat as i was doing 405 for sets of 8, but upper body is getting to weak to support it. Bothering mid back and traps. (no injuries wanted)

[Ronnie Rowland]

leg help during cut plz..
Squat 135 & 225 for a set of 10 each to warm up.
Squat 3x 315 for 12 or so. (smart failure)
lunges weighted 2 sets to failure
ex 2 sets 14-16 reps (to low of reps hurt knees on this lift)
ham curl 3 sets 8-10 reps (smart failure)
10sets + 2 warm ups
is this too much volume for cutting? no its not too much volume for cutting. I decreased the weight used on squat as i was doing 405 for sets of 8, but upper body is getting to weak to support it. Bothering mid back and traps. (no injuries wanted)

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[lynxeffect1]

wow ur wife looks in super shape ron! tried 15degrees (roughly anyway) and saw a big differance , really felt the chest being hit way more and hardly felt the shoulder engaging much at all. was under the impression before that the higher the incline the higher up the chest u worked, so thanks for that ron! how do the pro's manage to take steroids inda off season when there flying to differant states/ countries guest posing ? also with the extreme doses they take how do they know when theyve hit their genetic potential and are using a high enough dose that they;ll ever need to use ? and not think maybe if i add another few grams a week il get to the next level yet again, is it basically ..try it and see since everyone differant and u wont know otherwise?

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=lynxeffect1;5689770]wow ur wife looks in super shape ron! tried 15degrees (roughly anyway) and saw a big differance , really felt the chest being hit way more and hardly felt the shoulder engaging much at all. was under the impression before that the higher the incline the higher up the chest u worked, so thanks for that ron! how do the pro's manage to take steroids inda off season when there flying to differant states/ countries guest posing ? I cannot answer this on the open forum for obvious reasons. also with the extreme doses they take how do they know when theyve hit their genetic potential and are using a high enough dose that they;ll ever need to use ? Once they hit a certain point they realize more is not helping because each individual has only so many receptors to activate. They focus on insulin and GH a lot along with various steroids so taking high dosagers of steroids alone won't give you that kind of size and you must have the genetics, slin, gh and lots of protein/calories and not think maybe if i add another few grams a week il get to the next level yet again, is it basically .Taking more once you reach a certain point does not help unless you have a lot of receptors to absorb it. For example, I've seen guys go from taking 1.5 grams of test per week to 3 grams per week and the difference seen was mostly in their wallet not in their physique. And insulin and GH are just as responsible for thier size of these heavy weight pro-bodybuilder's as the various steroids. Most of us could not afford a pro cycle year round because we do not have sponsors nor could our bodies handle such high dosages without feeling sick most of the time! These men also use synthol. ..try it and see since everyone differant and u wont know otherwise? Your body will let you know when enough is enough because you will start to feel ill. I am of the belief that those with the most receptors and muscle fibers can use higher dosages while experiencing less side effects.[/QUOTE]above

[kelevra]

hey Ron, we know you are not too far out from a show. Could you give an example of the split you are on now, this far into your cutting? and total of sets for each group?
thanx Ron & Good luck to the Misses & yourself.

[Ronnie Rowland]

hey Ron, we know you are not too far out from a show. Could you give an example of the split you are on now, this far into your cutting? and total of sets for each group?
thanx Ron & Good luck to the Misses & yourself.

It hasnt changed and if it did I would do less sets the last few weeks. Still on that same 4 day split. Diet and cardio is what gets you ripped. Trying to burn more fat through increasing volume is a BIG MISTAKE IMO as it can cause joint problems and muscle loss. During a cutting phase you are not making gains, only trying to maintain what you gained prior.
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[paulzane]

Hi again Ronnie I am nearly finished week 4 of my first reload and was wondering if I should add some deca for my aging joints for the next 4 weeks before my deload (I am 56). I did follow your recommendations from my previous post but have slight joint probs. What you quoted is below:

Week 1-4 Dbol 50mg/day or Anadrol 50 50mg/day (go with d-bol because some find it hard to put on size with anadrol because it destroys their appetite. Drink more water while on d-bol to stay hydrated and keep kidney pain at bay.)

Week 1-8 Deca 550mg/week (mixture is 275mg/ml) (drop the deca during first reload and use during second reload)

Week 1-8 Test E 500mg/week or one 250mg inj every 3 days

Week 1 - 18 Proviron 50mg/day

My next Nebido will be due on week 7 so will this be enough to see me through week 9 & 10 or should I do a Test E one 250mg inj a week as well? Add in 250 mls of test-e

Week 10 - 18 Test E 750mg/week or 250mg every other day

Week 10 -18 Deca 550mg/week

Week 19 Nebido

[Tom Bodo]

Your wife looks great. All the best for her upcoming contest.


Here you see some pictures off me after reloading and deloading:



This reloading and deloading really kicks ass Thanks again for sharing your honest knowledge with us.

[djdizzy]

Here you see some pictures off me after reloading and deloading:

This reloading and deloading really kicks ass Thanks again for sharing your honest knowledge with us.

Nice gains! So did you do 2 back 2 back blasts or did you run pct in between for the 9 months?

[Tom Bodo]

Nice gains! So did you do 2 back 2 back blasts or did you run pct in between for the 9 months?

I did back to back blasts since february without going off. The months before I was without drugs.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Your wife looks great. All the best for her upcoming contest.


Here you see some pictures off me after reloading and deloading:



This reloading and deloading really kicks ass Thanks again for sharing your honest knowledge with us.

You made one heck of a transformation. You could compete and do well if you keep up this pace!

[Ronnie Rowland]

hi again ronnie i am nearly finished week 4 of my first reload and was wondering if i should add some deca for my aging joints for the next 4 weeks before my deload (i am 56). add one cc of deca per week for your joints! You might want to get some cabergoline and cialis.i did follow your recommendations from my previous post but have slight joint probs. What you quoted is below:

Week 1-4 dbol 50mg/day or anadrol 50 50mg/day (go with d-bol because some find it hard to put on size with anadrol because it destroys their appetite. Drink more water while on d-bol to stay hydrated and keep kidney pain at bay.)

week 1-8 deca 550mg/week (mixture is 275mg/ml) (drop the deca during first reload and use during second reload)

week 1-8 test e 500mg/week or one 250mg inj every 3 days

week 1 - 18 proviron 50mg/day

my next nebido will be due on week 7 so will this be enough to see me through week 9 & 10 or should i do a test e one 250mg inj a week as well? add in 250 mls of test-e

week 10 - 18 test e 750mg/week or 250mg every other day

week 10 -18 deca 550mg/week

week 19 nebido

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[ricky23]

hey ronnie, been reloading-deloading for 7 months and think it might be a good time for a prime (even though ive made strength and size gains every reload) just feel abit burned out
was thinking of doing a 2 week deload followed by a 2 week prime with a pct in there (abit confused whether to do this aas free or would 300mg test be ok?)
for the 7 months i haven't been using hcg but will do this time - will 2500ius eod 2 weeks be enough?
if you dont mind could you please give an example of the 4 week deload/prime?
thanks very much ronnie

[Ronnie Rowland]

hey ronnie, been reloading-deloading for 7 months and think it might be a good time for a prime (even though ive made strength and size gains every reload) just feel abit burned out
was thinking of doing a 2 week deload followed by a 2 week prime with a pct in there (abit confused whether to do this aas free or would 300mg test be ok?) discontinue all steroids when doing a 2 week prime to achieve full receptor cleansing! Pct is optional.for the 7 months i haven't been using hcg but will do this time - will 2500ius eod 2 weeks be enough? yesif you dont mind could you please give an example of the 4 week deload/prime? 2 week deload in your case would be 300 mgs of sustanon once per week. 2 week prime that follows would be hcg 2500ius eod 2 weeks with no anabolics thanks very much ronnie

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[ricky23]

ronnie what do you think of running proviron to attach to SHBG and free up test? best to run during deload or reload or not at all?
also good idea to swap adex for aromasin next reload?

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=ricky23;5692000]ronnie what do you think of running proviron to attach to SHBG and free up test? I think proviron is best used as an anti-es during both reloads and deloads. I do not buy into the theory it frees up enough test to make a noticeable difference. best to run during deload or reload or not at all?
also good idea to swap adex for aromasin next reload? always stay with proviron unless its too weak to prevent gyno symptoms as proviron can actually increase sex drive where as adex can destroy it.[/QUOTE]above

[lynxeffect1]

with regards to the 15 degree incline and decline you reccomended and i tried and it def took the shoulders out of the equation, how come no matter what in every video you see and even the big lads at my own gym , they all do at least 30 to 45 degrees?

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=lynxeffect1;5692060]with regards to the 15 degree incline and decline you reccomended and i tried and it def took the shoulders out of the equation, how come no matter what in every video you see and even the big lads at my own gym , they all do at least 30 to 45 degrees? Well, just because someone is big does not mean they are doing things correctly. Also, if someone has good upper chest genetics their upper pec will actually take over the movement as opposed to the anterior delts even at a higher degree of angles. [/QUOTE]above

[kml999]

update
i did further BW for just estro and total test on the 5th day of pct...now my estro used to be 69.14 (7.63-42.6) and now is 38 (11-44) and my total test was 1.67 (2.8-8.0) and now total test is 4.83 (3.0-10.6). i ran this when i started my 3rd pct 5 days ago:

day1: 37.5mg aromasin, 100clomid
day2: 37.5 aromasin, 100 clomid, 40 nolva
day3: 12.5 aromasin, 40 nolva
day4: 12.5 aromasin, 40 nolva
day5: 12.5 aromasin, 40 nolva (havent taken the nolva on this day when i did the test and took it afterwards before sleep)

i did the bw test on the 5th day of this pct and did estrodiol and total testosterone ONLY at a local lab and got the above results. i will keep aromasin at 12.5mg per day and 20 nolva until the 10th day

should i stop on the 10th day? should i still do hcg?

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=kml999;5692467]update
i did further BW for just estro and total test on the 5th day of pct...now my estro used to be 69.14 (7.63-42.6) and now is 38 (11-44) and my total test was 1.67 (2.8-8.0) and now total test is 4.83 (3.0-10.6). i ran this when i started my 3rd pct 5 days ago:

day1: 37.5mg aromasin, 100clomid
day2: 37.5 aromasin, 100 clomid, 40 nolva
day3: 12.5 aromasin, 40 nolva
day4: 12.5 aromasin, 40 nolva
day5: 12.5 aromasin, 40 nolva (havent taken the nolva on this day when i did the test and took it afterwards before sleep)

i did the bw test on the 5th day of this pct and did estrodiol and total testosterone ONLY at a local lab and got the above results. i will keep aromasin at 12.5mg per day and 20 nolva until the 10th day

should i stop on the 10th day? should i still do hcg? I WOULD ALWAYS DO SOME HCG AND KEEP ANTI-ES IN FOR MINIMUM OF 3 WEEKS POST CYCLE.[/QUOTE]ABOVE

[trainhard10]

Alright so this is my first time on here and am hoping I'm in the area. I am going on my fourth cycle but my first three I did zero thinking, everything was done for me when it came to putting the cycle together by my former training partner. He had moved and sold me the last of what he had so I was wanting to know if anyone could help me set up a cycle with what I have. Yes I have been reading up and doing my homework but just want to be sure this is done correct. I did some research on the stuff and it both inject ables say to take once a week? I hope I'm typing this correct.
Enanthate 200mg + Boldenone Undeclynate 50mg I have three 250mg x 10ml Vials
250mg/ml x 10ml/vials x 2 = 5000 mgs testosterone propionate (30 mg); testosterone phenylpropionate (60 mg); testosterone isocaproate (60mg); and testosterone decanoate (100 mg)
and thats two of those vials.
250 10mg Danabol tabs
As far as during and after I have all the proper antiestragens figured out as well as my HCG.
Anyway I hope this is the correct area and I hope that I posted everything right and thanks for the help.
I hoping to get a 12 week cycle out of the injectable.

[ridedivefx]

Hi Ron,

I am on my 2nd week of PCT after my 1st Blast. Strength is up lost a bit at the top end but still very good. I have lost size but that cud be mostly water retention.

Since my strength is up, Does this mean I am maintaining the muscles mass I gained?

Also since my blast is done do I continue to blast (reload/delaod) through PCT and time OFF before my next blast?

I now have some access to HGH, would it be wise to use it now between 3-4iu (5on2off) or should I wait and use it with my next blast and cycle?

Can I run hgh now to help burn some fat and to help maintain or even gain some muscle mass or is it not worth it?

Will run HGH 5-6 months straight

Thanks

[Ronnie Rowland]

hi ron,

i am on my 2nd week of pct after my 1st blast. Strength is up lost a bit at the top end but still very good. I have lost size but that cud be mostly water retention.

Since my strength is up, does this mean i am maintaining the muscles mass i gained? its a good sign for sure!
also since my blast is done do i continue to blast (reload/delaod) through pct and time off before my next blast? yes. You reload and deload whether training natural or drug enhanced.i now have some access to hgh, would it be wise to use it now between 3-4iu (5on2off) or should i wait and use it with my next blast and cycle? use it with cycle to create a synergistic muscle building effect!can i run hgh now to help burn some fat and to help maintain or even gain some muscle mass or is it not worth it? you wont gain without the steroids because it takes many months to put on new muscle with gh. Why not just start up another cycle now instead of waiting around. Summer is the time to look your best!
will run hgh 5-6 months straight IS IT GENERIC OR PHARM GRADE GH?
thanks

above

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=trainhard10;5692587]Alright so this is my first time on here and am hoping I'm in the area. I am going on my fourth cycle but my first three I did zero thinking, everything was done for me when it came to putting the cycle together by my former training partner. He had moved and sold me the last of what he had so I was wanting to know if anyone could help me set up a cycle with what I have. Yes I have been reading up and doing my homework but just want to be sure this is done correct. I did some research on the stuff and it both inject ables say to take once a week? I hope I'm typing this correct.
Enanthate 200mg + Boldenone Undeclynate 50mg I have three 250mg x 10ml Vials
250mg/ml x 10ml/vials x 2 = 5000 mgs testosterone propionate (30 mg); testosterone phenylpropionate (60 mg); testosterone isocaproate (60mg); and testosterone decanoate (100 mg)
and thats two of those vials.
250 10mg Danabol tabs
As far as during and after I have all the proper antiestragens figured out as well as my HCG.
Anyway I hope this is the correct area and I hope that I posted everything right and thanks for the help.
I hoping to get a 12 week cycle out of the injectable.[/QUOTE]I SET UP 20 WEEK CYCLES (MINIMUM) SO PROBABLY BEST TO POST IN ANABOLIC STEROIDS Q n A SECTION.

[trainhard10]

[QUOTE=Ronnie Rowland;5693411]

Alright so this is my first time on here and am hoping I'm in the area. I am going on my fourth cycle but my first three I did zero thinking, everything was done for me when it came to putting the cycle together by my former training partner. He had moved and sold me the last of what he had so I was wanting to know if anyone could help me set up a cycle with what I have. Yes I have been reading up and doing my homework but just want to be sure this is done correct. I did some research on the stuff and it both inject ables say to take once a week? I hope I'm typing this correct.
Enanthate 200mg + Boldenone Undeclynate 50mg I have three 250mg x 10ml Vials
250mg/ml x 10ml/vials x 2 = 5000 mgs testosterone propionate (30 mg); testosterone phenylpropionate (60 mg); testosterone isocaproate (60mg); and testosterone decanoate (100 mg)
and thats two of those vials.
250 10mg Danabol tabs
As far as during and after I have all the proper antiestragens figured out as well as my HCG.
Anyway I hope this is the correct area and I hope that I posted everything right and thanks for the help.
I hoping to get a 12 week cycle out of the injectable.[/QUOTE]I SET UP 20 WEEK CYCLES (MINIMUM) SO PROBABLY BEST TO POST IN ANABOLIC STEROIDS Q n A SECTION.

Thanks for the reply man.

[ricky23]

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[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=ricky23;5692977]hey ron, i ran test at 1.5g last reload and i respond well to it with not many sides or feeling ill, can i run test only cycles and expect similar results to test/tren if test is increased? NO! TEST AND TREN COMBO IS STRONGER THAN LARGER DOSAGES OF TEST AND ADDING D-BOL OR ANADROL TO TEST/TREN IS EVEN BETTER. IF YOU USED GH/SLIN/TEST THEN YOU COULD GROW LIKE A WEED WITH JUST TEST AS YOUR ONLY ANABOLIC. just been reading this whole thread again from page 1 - i would be lost without this thread lol
really appreciate the help mate
hows the prep going? PREP IS GOING WELL AND EVEN THOUGH MY LEGS HAVE IMPROVED I AM STILL TOP-HEAVY FROM THE NERVE DAMAGE IN MY LOWER BACK..MY WIFE SAID I LOOKED LIKE THE CARTOON CHARACTER MR.INCREDIBLE BACK IN THE OFF-SEASON.....LOL[/QUOTE]ABOVE

[ricky23]

[QUOTE=Ronnie Rowland;5693406]

hey ron, i ran test at 1.5g last reload and i respond well to it with not many sides or feeling ill, can i run test only cycles and expect similar results to test/tren if test is increased? NO! TEST AND TREN COMBO IS STRONGER THAN LARGER DOSAGES OF TEST AND ADDING D-BOL OR ANADROL TO TEST/TREN IS EVEN BETTER. IF YOU USED GH/SLIN/TEST THEN YOU COULD GROW LIKE A WEED WITH JUST TEST AS YOUR ONLY ANABOLIC. just been reading this whole thread again from page 1 - i would be lost without this thread lol
really appreciate the help mate
hows the prep going? PREP IS GOING WELL AND EVEN THOUGH MY LEGS HAVE IMPROVED I AM STILL TOP-HEAVY FROM THE NERVE DAMAGE IN MY LOWER BACK..MY WIFE SAID I LOOKED LIKE THE CARTOON CHARACTER MR.INCREDIBLE BACK IN THE OFF-SEASON.....LOL[/QUOTE]ABOVE

how much do you weigh in the offseason ron?
best of luck to you and your wife for the upcoming shows! we all really appreciate you taking the time to answer our questions even in this busy time!!

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=ricky23;5693583]

how much do you weigh in the offseason ron?
best of luck to you and your wife for the upcoming shows! we all really appreciate you taking the time to answer our questions even in this busy time!!

225 is where I like to stay. Been as high as 250 and arms got up to 22 inches pumped but I felt fat, lethargic, and began experiencing severe headaches from having high blood pressure..Never again..lol