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    Ronnie im finishing up my first deload and will start the next reload on monday.

    First 8 weeks were test 500 and deca 400.

    I planned on doing test 750 and deca 400 for the last 8.

    I may go another route im not quite sure as im confused. Im worried my hair may be thinning out and im nervous taking the test to 750mg.

    My 2 options right now are keep the test at 500ish and up the deca to 600. I know i may screw myself sexually but i can live with that for 8 weeks.

    Second option is forget bulking anymore, since I know i wont ever do higher doses of test in the fear of hairloss I may just start a cut.

    I can be happy at 175 shredded, im 192 now but carrying a little fat on the belly, seem to be leaner everywhere else.

    So what do you recommend.

    Option 1 - Test 500ish Deca 600 keep bulking this last reload and then i would plan a 4 week pct then right away start a cut.

    Option 2 start a cut now. Not sure if I could cut with Deca and if so how much would you run and how much test. I also have 5000mg of var that i plan on using to but I would like to get around 12% before adding the var.

    So if i could cut with deca and test im thinking 500test 400 deca for 8 weeks then test 500 and var 75mg a day for another 8 with no deload since im cutting.

    If you think i could still put on some nice mass with option 1 I would go with that and then take a month off and then start option 2. If you think option 1 is pointless then I would start the cut now.

    What do you think? I hope this makes sense to you.

    Also i only stick to the following compounds due to me being prone to hairloss.

    Deca
    Test "i can control DHT somewhat"
    Var
    Tbol
    EQ which is a waste and i wont ever run.

    Other things like tren dbol, adrol i wont touch even though i would love to.

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    [QUOTE=slimshady01;5687443]Ronnie im finishing up my first deload and will start the next reload on monday.

    First 8 weeks were test 500 and deca 400.

    I planned on doing test 750 and deca 400 for the last 8.

    I may go another route im not quite sure as im confused. Im worried my hair may be thinning out and im nervous taking the test to 750mg.

    My 2 options right now are keep the test at 500ish and up the deca to 600. I know i may screw myself sexually but i can live with that for 8 weeks.

    Second option is forget bulking anymore, since I know i wont ever do higher doses of test in the fear of hairloss I may just start a cut.

    I can be happy at 175 shredded, im 192 now but carrying a little fat on the belly, seem to be leaner everywhere else.

    So what do you recommend. I would cut if you are worried about hair loss or you could use a dht blocker and take as much test as you want and bulk up even further.

    Option 1 - Test 500ish Deca 600 keep bulking this last reload and then i would plan a 4 week pct then right away start a cut.

    Option 2 start a cut now. Not sure if I could cut with Deca and if so how much would you run and how much test. I also have 5000mg of var that i plan on using to but I would like to get around 12% before adding the var. I would start var immediatedly on a cut to help maintain strength and 3-400 mgs of deca per week.

    So if i could cut with deca and test im thinking 500test 400 deca for 8 weeks then test 500 and var 75mg a day for another 8 with no deload since im cutting. You could do this but i would run var all the way through if you can afford itIf you think i could still put on some nice mass with option 1 I would go with that and then take a month off and then start option 2. If you think option 1 is pointless then I would start the cut now. I would cut.What do you think? I hope this makes sense to you.

    Also i only stick to the following compounds due to me being prone to hairloss.

    Deca
    Test "i can control DHT somewhat"
    Var
    Tbol
    EQ which is a waste and i wont ever run.

    Other things like tren dbol, adrol i wont touch even though i would love to. you may try winstrol but it can make your hair thin as well. primobolan and var with a little test may be best for you![/QUOTE]above

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    [QUOTE=Ronnie Rowland;5690513]
    Quote Originally Posted by slimshady01 View Post
    Ronnie im finishing up my first deload and will start the next reload on monday.

    First 8 weeks were test 500 and deca 400.

    I planned on doing test 750 and deca 400 for the last 8.

    I may go another route im not quite sure as im confused. Im worried my hair may be thinning out and im nervous taking the test to 750mg.

    My 2 options right now are keep the test at 500ish and up the deca to 600. I know i may screw myself sexually but i can live with that for 8 weeks.

    Second option is forget bulking anymore, since I know i wont ever do higher doses of test in the fear of hairloss I may just start a cut.

    I can be happy at 175 shredded, im 192 now but carrying a little fat on the belly, seem to be leaner everywhere else.

    So what do you recommend. I would cut if you are worried about hair loss or you could use a dht blocker and take as much test as you want and bulk up even further.

    Option 1 - Test 500ish Deca 600 keep bulking this last reload and then i would plan a 4 week pct then right away start a cut.

    Option 2 start a cut now. Not sure if I could cut with Deca and if so how much would you run and how much test. I also have 5000mg of var that i plan on using to but I would like to get around 12% before adding the var. I would start var immediatedly on a cut to help maintain strength and 3-400 mgs of deca per week.

    So if i could cut with deca and test im thinking 500test 400 deca for 8 weeks then test 500 and var 75mg a day for another 8 with no deload since im cutting. You could do this but i would run var all the way through if you can afford itIf you think i could still put on some nice mass with option 1 I would go with that and then take a month off and then start option 2. If you think option 1 is pointless then I would start the cut now. I would cut.What do you think? I hope this makes sense to you.

    Also i only stick to the following compounds due to me being prone to hairloss.

    Deca
    Test "i can control DHT somewhat"
    Var
    Tbol
    EQ which is a waste and i wont ever run.

    Other things like tren dbol, adrol i wont touch even though i would love to. you may try winstrol but it can make your hair thin as well. primobolan and var with a little test may be best for you![/QUOTE]above


    Thanks so much Ronnie,

    I pinned this morning for the 750mg and 400deca but still leary about the hair. My wife says im the same and nothing has changed "she cuts my hair". I just get worried because ive had thin fine hair my whole life and done a lot to hold onto it. "i would look horrible bald".

    I may give it a shot and try the 750mg the last 8 week reload here and see how i do. I doubt i will go this high again but i guess ill try it this time.

    My goal is to cut right after. Should i just do 2 week deload and jump right into a 16 week cut after this 20 week run with no deloads. Or would you have me take a month PCT break then start the cutting cycle. I have 3 kids and another in the wifes belly now "that one was unexpcted" and absolutley do not want anymore, its hard enough on a single income as my wife doesnt work. Oh and im 35 years old.

    For my cutting cycle I know you said run var staight through, but my question is, is it safe to run var 16 weeks at 75mg. I know its mild but its not that good on cholesterol.

    So for the cutting cycle can you help me create one based on the compounds i run with my fine hair.

    IM thinking

    Test 300mg "can do 400 mb 500 depending how this 750 run goes"
    Anavar 75mg
    I have tons of deca but as you stated im thinking primo would be better?
    Ive never ran Primo so im not sure what dose, ive seen 200-400mg a week? Stuff is expensive but ill give it a go.

    On a side note

    Ive almost considered staying on a low dose test TRT because i actually feel like i have a better quality of life.
    My sex drive has been crap since my mid 20s for some reason even though blood tests have been on the low normal range. Ive been married almost 5 years and ive had almost a non existent sex drive that has made my wife insecure with herself. Ever since being on test we are having sex a good once a day and she and I are loving it. I told her i was going to come off completely in fear of losing my hair and she almost paniced. Bottom line is i think Test saved my marriage.
    Last edited by slimshady01; 07-11-2011 at 06:28 PM.

  4. #4
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    [QUOTE=slimshady01;5691052]
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post



    Thanks so much Ronnie,

    I pinned this morning for the 750mg and 400deca but still leary about the hair. My wife says im the same and nothing has changed "she cuts my hair". I just get worried because ive had thin fine hair my whole life and done a lot to hold onto it. "i would look horrible bald". I HAVE FINE HAIR AS WELL BUT LUCKILY IT HAS NOT RECEEDED MUCH AT AGE 45. THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO WATCH OUT FOR!I may give it a shot and try the 750mg the last 8 week reload here and see how i do. I doubt i will go this high again but i guess ill try it this time.

    My goal is to cut right after. Should i just do 2 week deload and jump right into a 16 week cut after this 20 week run with no deloads. START 16 WEEK NON-STOP CUT AFTER 2 WEEK DELOAD (WEEKS 19-20). Or would you have me take a month PCT break then start the cutting cycle. I have 3 kids and another in the wifes belly now "that one was unexpcted" and absolutley do not want anymore, its hard enough on a single income as my wife doesnt work. Oh and im 35 years old. FORGET PCT FOREVER..LOL..JUMP STRAIGHT INTO CUTTING PHASE!For my cutting cycle I know you said run var staight through, but my question is, is it safe to run var 16 weeks at 75mg. I know its mild but its not that good on cholesterol. I WOULD RUN 50 MGS ED FOR 16 WEEKS. SINCE YOU ARE GOING TO BE EATING CLEAN AND DOING CARDIO-ANY SMALL CHOLESTEROL WON'T BE OF CONCERN AS EVERYTHING ELSE WILL COMBAT IT.
    So for the cutting cycle can you help me create one based on the compounds i run with my fine hair.

    IM thinking

    Test 300mg "can do 400 mb 500 depending how this 750 run goes"
    Anavar 75mg
    I have tons of deca but as you stated im thinking primo would be better?
    Ive never ran Primo so im not sure what dose, ive seen 200-400mg a week? Stuff is expensive but ill give it a go.

    TEST 500 MGS PER WEEK IF 750 GOES FINE. IF NOT DROP DOWN TO 300
    ANAVAR 50 MGS DAILY. IF SEX DRIVE DECREASES DROP DOWN TO 20 PER DAY.
    PRIMOBOLAN 800 PER WEEK
    On a side note

    Ive almost considered staying on a low dose test TRT because i actually feel like i have a better quality of life. I AGREE!My sex drive has been crap since my mid 20s for some reason even though blood tests have been on the low normal range. Ive been married almost 5 years and ive had almost a non existent sex drive that has made my wife insecure with herself. Ever since being on test we are having sex a good once a day and she and I are loving it. I told her i was going to come off completely in fear of losing my hair and she almost paniced. Bottom line is i think Test saved my marriage.YOU'D BE BETTER OFF WITH NO HAIR THAN NO SEX DRIVE! I WOULD CUT ALL MY HAIR OFF IT THATS WHAT IT TOOK TO GET A SEX DRIVE. THATS ABOUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN LIFE. EVEN MORE SO THAN BIG MUSCLES IN MY BOOK!
    ABOVE

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