Don't Try this At Home

[Windex]

Starting : 251.6lbs 15.5% BF
Goal : 268 lbs 13.5-14.5% BF

Week 1-21

50IU Lantus AM
6IU HGH AM
12.5mg MK677 AM + 25mg MK677 PM
450mg EQ
1050mg Primo
220mg Test
100mg Deca

Week 7-21 Adding

875mg Mast
30mg Cardarine (GW)

For anyone curious on macros

100g Fat, 250g Protein, Carbs will start at 600g working up towards 900g. Majority of my carbs are from fruit.

[SampsonandDelilah]

You’ve been quiet lately, now I know why. You’ve been hatching this diabolical plan

Nice work, looks solid. I’m in

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Like seeing the fruits. I eat lots.
Too many people are afraid of oranges and pears.

[SampsonandDelilah]

Like seeing the fruits. I eat lots.
Too many people are afraid of oranges and pears.

Who is scared of oranges and pears? What kind of people are you hanging out with? Lol

[tarmyg]

1050 of primo and I was literally about to create a thread asking if 600 is way to much. Guess that answers that question. Lol. Fck me!

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Who is scared of oranges and pears? What kind of people are you hanging out with? Lol

Many people are anti-carb...

Also...
There are people who will tell you that fruits are bad because fructose can't be converted into glycogen.
What they fail to realize is that fruits have more carbs than simply fructose.

[Bio-Active]

Many people are anti-carb...

Also...
There are people who will tell you that fruits are bad because fructose can't be converted into glycogen.
What they fail to realize is that fruits have more carbs than simply fructose.

Agree I have heard over and over to reduce carbs.... ugh I need tons of carbs otherwise I go flat and can’t make gains. I have never been a fan of low carb unless you are depleting for a show or something but I’m done with those days

[SampsonandDelilah]

Many people are anti-carb...

Also...
There are people who will tell you that fruits are bad because fructose can't be converted into glycogen.
What they fail to realize is that fruits have more carbs than simply fructose.

No, I know. I meant those two fruits specifically....was being funny. Anti carbohydrate folks are scarier than anti vaccination people

No carbs = no growth

I especially love my fructose first thing in his morning and right after a workout

I do believe there’s a genetic component to carbohydrates as well...my body runs off of glucose. I’m worthless without them. Some guys I know will put on belly fat quickly with rice, grains or oats

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Without carbs my training suffers.
I advocate drinking a Gatorade during workouts.

When cutting weight for a meet I go low carb for several days. Easily lose 3-4lbs of water.
I then drink/eat plenty of carbs to bloat back up for the meet.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

I do believe there’s a genetic component to carbohydrates as well...my body runs off of glucose. I’m worthless without them. Some guys I know will put on belly fat quickly with rice, grains or oats

Agreed...
and to clarify...

I am "low" carbs by some measures in that I primarily eat meat and fruit.
It is hard to get as many calories from watermelon as it is from pasta.

I actually have what's called reactive hypoglycemia so I shouldn't eat too many carbs. (I've actually passed out several times...)
But before, during, and after my workouts I make sure to eat/drink plenty of carbs.

I think fruits are the healthiest option.

And the reason I said oranges and pears is because I didn't want to mention my favorite fruit watermelon... trying to avoid coming across like a was making a off handed comment

[kelkel]

Like seeing the fruits. I eat lots.
Too many people are afraid of oranges and pears.

Addicted to grapes and pineapple here. I eat several pounds of grapes per week easily. And I wonder why I spend so much time in the bathroom....

Who is scared of oranges and pears? What kind of people are you hanging out with? Lol

The older you get the funnier you are. Probably won't last.....

[kelkel]

Starting : 251.6lbs 15.5% BF
Goal : 268 lbs 13.5-14.5% BF

Week 1-21

50IU Lantus AM
6IU HGH AM
12.5mg MK677 AM + 25mg MK677 PM
450mg EQ
1050mg Primo
220mg Test
100mg Deca

Week 7-21 Adding

875mg Mast
30mg Cardarine (GW)

For anyone curious on macros

100g Fat, 250g Protein, Carbs will start at 600g working up towards 900g. Majority of my carbs are from fruit.

That's almost a full time job!

[charger69]

That's almost a full time job!

You hit the nail on the head. That is why I do not like taking slin. I take it, but it almost becomes a job because timing is everything.


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[SampsonandDelilah]

Addicted to grapes and pineapple here. I eat several pounds of grapes per week easily. And I wonder why I spend so much time in the bathroom....

Have you had the “pretty lady” varietal? They’re the big green plump ones...I’m addicted.



The older you get the funnier you are. Probably won't last.....

Seems to be working for you

I’m definitely past my peak...

[Capebuffalo]

Seems to be working for you

I’m definitely past my peak...

Yeah. You are just skin and bones. Lol

[Capebuffalo]

Starting : 251.6lbs 15.5% BF
Goal : 268 lbs 13.5-14.5% BF

Week 1-21

50IU Lantus AM
6IU HGH AM
12.5mg MK677 AM + 25mg MK677 PM
450mg EQ
1050mg Primo
220mg Test
100mg Deca

Week 7-21 Adding

875mg Mast
30mg Cardarine (GW)

For anyone curious on macros

100g Fat, 250g Protein, Carbs will start at 600g working up towards 900g. Majority of my carbs are from fruit.

This is per day right?

[SampsonandDelilah]

Yeah. You are just skin and bones. Lol

I meant in the humor category



Per day on those dosages? Whaaaaaaa??

I guess I assumed the insulin, MK and HGH were daily and the oils were weekly?

[Cuz]

No, I know. I meant those two fruits specifically....was being funny. Anti carbohydrate folks are scarier than anti vaccination people

No carbs = no growth

I especially love my fructose first thing in his morning and right after a workout

I do believe there’s a genetic component to carbohydrates as well...my body runs off of glucose. I’m worthless without them. Some guys I know will put on belly fat quickly with rice, grains or oats

Hell yea . I wish planet earth realized this. All these damn keto people in the gym trying to look like a bodybuilder i just shake my fuckin head. Cutting for a comp sure but you gotta have em to grow at least i have

[tarmyg]

Since we are talking about grapes, pineapples, carbs, and how Samson is small AF I am going to ask my question. Is there a more reasonable dosage for someone who has not used Primo before? No way I am pushing 1000mg/week of that :-)

[SampsonandDelilah]

Since we are talking about grapes, pineapples, carbs, and how Samson is small AF I am going to ask my question. Is there a more reasonable dosage for someone who has not used Primo before? No way I am pushing 1000mg/week of that :-)

You know I used to like you

At least I can count on your for always posting amazing food porn

Shit, that 1000 a week of primo on top of that other regimen. I understand the title of the thread for sure...

My only run with it was at 400, was great but didn’t make me a loyalist.

[Capebuffalo]

I meant in the humor category



Per day on those dosages? Whaaaaaaa??

I guess I assumed the insulin, MK and HGH were daily and the oils were weekly?

Newbie.

[tarmyg]

I think I'll shoot for 500-700/wk to test this. Seems like 12-weeks should be enough unless someone has another opinion? Should you run anything else with this? Mast?

[Fluidic Kimbo]

It took some digging but I found my old thread back from when I decided to do 1.2g Tren E per week:

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...irst-week.html

I had only intended on taking such a high dose at the very beginning (i.e. to 'frontload' or to 'kickstart') but I ended up continuing at that dosage for a month or two. Also I was taking 70mg dbol daily.

[flexin-rph]

Does the Lantus say 50 is or 5 iu.....50 iu is a crap-ton!

[Windex]

You’ve been quiet lately, now I know why. You’ve been hatching this diabolical plan

Nice work, looks solid. I’m in

Thank you kindly

[Windex]

Does the Lantus say 50 is or 5 iu.....50 iu is a crap-ton!

It's 50 IU not 5

[Narkissos]

Who is scared of oranges and pears? What kind of people are you hanging out with? Lol

Indeed!

[Narkissos]

Does the Lantus say 50 is or 5 iu.....50 iu is a crap-ton!

Of Lantus?
It really isn't.

50-100Ius is where you want to be, if all other factors are dialed in appreciably.

[Narkissos]

Starting : 251.6lbs 15.5% BF
Goal : 268 lbs 13.5-14.5% BF

Week 1-21

50IU Lantus AM
6IU HGH AM
12.5mg MK677 AM + 25mg MK677 PM
450mg EQ
1050mg Primo
220mg Test
100mg Deca

Week 7-21 Adding

875mg Mast
30mg Cardarine (GW)

For anyone curious on macros

100g Fat, 250g Protein, Carbs will start at 600g working up towards 900g. Majority of my carbs are from fruit.

How is your blood pressure presently?

[Windex]

I think I'll shoot for 500-700/wk to test this. Seems like 12-weeks should be enough unless someone has another opinion? Should you run anything else with this? Mast?

I akin Primot EQ where really shines at 14-16 weeks to each their own.

[Windex]

How is your blood pressure presently?

122 / 71 was last reading. I'm typically 120-125 / 70-80

[Windex]

Since we are talking about grapes, pineapples, carbs, and how Samson is small AF I am going to ask my question. Is there a more reasonable dosage for someone who has not used Primo before? No way I am pushing 1000mg/week of that :-)

400-700mg is great. Can be paired with test or just TRT + an Androgen. The cycle I laid out is not very nice on the wallet

[Windex]

That's almost a full time job!

Beauty of partial retirement

[Windex]

Many people are anti-carb...

Also...
There are people who will tell you that fruits are bad because fructose can't be converted into glycogen.
What they fail to realize is that fruits have more carbs than simply fructose.

Took me years to get over being afraid of fruit

[Windex]

I meant in the humor category



Per day on those dosages? Whaaaaaaa??

I guess I assumed the insulin, MK and HGH were daily and the oils were weekly?

That's correct. Oils are weekly

[SampsonandDelilah]

That's correct

This all makes sense then. Be excited to hear how it pulls together. Rooting for you and have no doubt you can achieve your goals

[jstone]

Does the Lantus say 50 is or 5 iu.....50 iu is a crap-ton!

lantus is long acting insulin taken 1 time per day usually. 50iu is a pretty standard dose.

[Windex]

Without carbs my training suffers.
I advocate drinking a Gatorade during workouts.

When cutting weight for a meet I go low carb for several days. Easily lose 3-4lbs of water.
I then drink/eat plenty of carbs to bloat back up for the meet.

I use to drink BCAA's/EAA's religiously along with other similar products before dropping all my supplementation outside of vitamins.

Now I drink Gatorade during my workout and I'm a huge fan. Happy to see someone else on the same train of thought.

[Windex]

Forgot to add a few tidbits:

Pre Workout :
4 Pickles
2x Serving Choc Milk
1 Banana
Sodium, Potassium, and Hydration

Post Cycle will transition to a modified HRT program of

3IU HGH
100-150mg Test (dose TBD)
100mg Deca Durabolin
150mg Primo
150mg EQ
10mg Anavar/day


I do not take any fitness supplements (creative, protein powder, preworkoit, stims, etc). Vitamin/Mineral stack is very simple:

Multivitamin
Activated B Complex
Bone Complex
Vitamin D3

[Charlie67]

I think I'll shoot for 500-700/wk to test this. Seems like 12-weeks should be enough unless someone has another opinion? Should you run anything else with this? Mast?

600/wk makes me a happy. I run it with about 300 of test and either Tren or Deca depending an what else I'm up to at the time.