Thread: CLA and r-ALA
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02-08-2005, 01:17 PM #1
CLA and r-ALA
What does CLA do? And what does r-ALA do? What are its benefits and purposes? Do steroids users like me, which btw I'm on the stuff all year round...really serve a purpose? Don't want to waste my money on unnecessary stuff when the money can go for things like liver protecters.
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02-08-2005, 03:50 PM #2
CLA...nothing see here A couple studies showing CLA is bunk
r-ALA is a good antioxidant and nutrient partitioner, best taken before workout and with large carb meals when eating an excess of cals. K-r-ala is the new and more stable form of r-ala that does not polymerize. Glucophase XR by Designer Supplements is a good k-r-ala supplement.
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02-08-2005, 03:54 PM #3
I read that taking CLA before a slin shot will help minimize fat gains.
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02-08-2005, 05:05 PM #4
wnope its a waste.
something like Sesathin will help insulin sensitivty and carb overload more so than CLA is and is much cheaper. Plus its a good anti oxidant to protect the liver as well.
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02-08-2005, 05:06 PM #5
From their webstie:
SesaThin and Androgens
by Par Deus
I am going to start doing a series of mini-articles, looking at the usage of various Avant Labs products for a variety of specific goals. This is the first of these. As with my full SesaThin™ article this month, I did not get this finished in time, so this is just a teaser. IOW, they will not be THIS “mini”. They will be more like 5 or so pages vs. the one page that this is. I hope to have the full article by Monday, November 1st.
While androgens are the unquestioned king for building muscle mass and strength, they do have their downsides. We will not get into the HPTA, legality, morality, etc. here today. Instead we will focus on visceral adipose tissue (‘roid gut), lipid profiles, heart disease and liver toxicity -- and why SesaThin™ should be a staple of any androgen cycle (particularly with methylated androgens, which are far worse than non-methylated androgens). This situation is even worse if the androgen is non-aromatizing, as estrogen exerts a protective effect on blood lipid profiles.
It is well established in the literature and the real world, that heart disease and abdominal fat accumulation occurs far more often in males than in females. The reason for this is testosterone . And, of course, synthetic androgens are structurally similar and share the same pathways.
Testosterone does its damage in several ways -- by increasing angiotensin II and beta receptor density, as well as by decreasing 11beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase activity. All of these act in concert to increase activity of cortisol and the stress axis. And, the stress axis is intimately linked with visceral adipose tissue accumulation, elevated blood lipids, oxidative stress/inflammation and heart disease.
SesaThin™ was tailor made by nature to protect against these pathologies. First and foremost, it decreases triglyceride (TG) formation and increases TG uptake and fatty acid oxidation, while decreasing cholesterol levels. It also just happens to be a potent anti-oxidant and anti-inflammatory (as well as inhibiting metabolism of the anti-oxidant/anti-inflammatory, vitamin E)
In addition to these health benefits, prevention of VAT accumlation will keep your belly from sticking out past you massive chest like a Mr. Olympia contestant, thus it should be most welcomed by the aesthetically cognizant steroid user as well.
As for the liver, SesaThin has also been found to be protective against liver damage, likely due to its anti-oxidant activity and inhibition of lipid accumulation.
So, for your next cycle, do not forget the SesaThin™
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