N.O. Shotgun is AWESOME. Thank you Csar!

[wanescotting]

I was previously taking N.O. Explode. That shit went into the trash(whole tub of N.O. Explode) after my first workout with N.O. Shotgun. Big thanks to Csar. I probably would have never tried the product, but after reading your thoughts on it, I gave it a shot.

A miracle supplement it is not, but it does give you the pump. Cool thing is, the harder you push, the better the effects of the supplement (at least it seems). I am by no means a bodybuilding veteran, but I can assure you, this stuff is great.

[notorious_mem]

I was previously taking N.O. Explode. That shit went into the trash(whole tub of N.O. Explode) after my first workout with N.O. Shotgun. Big thanks to Csar. I probably would have never tried the product, but after reading your thoughts on it, I gave it a shot.

A miracle supplement it is not, but it does give you the pump. Cool thing is, the harder you push, the better the effects of the supplement (at least it seems). I am by no means a bodybuilding veteran, but I can assure you, this stuff is great.

would you mind grabbing the xplode outta the trash and mailing it too me?

[chuck89gt5.0]

I thought I was the one promoting this product.......oh well as long as you guys enjoy it

[CSAR]

I thought I was the one promoting this product.......oh well as long as you guys enjoy it

Chuck deserves all the praise!! He's the one who got me interested on it, but I do appreciate the thanks wanescotting. I'm glad it's working for you!!

I agree, it delivers better than anything with respect to the pumps. I have to force myself to stop!

[l2elapse]

No shotgun is the bomb!

[surfnsailor]

IMO it is overpriced for people on a budget. Not worth the money unless you have it to blow. Not a necessity like whey pro. ECA, AMP, and just plain old caffeine pills will give you an intense work out, and it is being smarter with your money. IMO

S&S

[Kaioken]

guys how potent is the focus?

compare to coffee please if you can

[Crowned]

Glad to hear it.... again. Ordering my tub in a day.

[CSAR]

IMO it is overpriced for people on a budget. Not worth the money unless you have it to blow. Not a necessity like whey pro. ECA, AMP, and just plain old caffeine pills will give you an intense work out, and it is being smarter with your money. IMO

S&S

I agree to a point - most things are overpriced for people on a budget...budget being the key word here. For those on a reduced income, drinking a cup of strong instant coffee is good enough. I think whey is a necessity as well (excellent point). If I were on a budget, I'd spend my money primarily on whole foods. Thankfully, I can afford to experiment with different supps and find the ones that help me "raise my game" a little higher.

I don't think this is an unreasonably priced supplement. It is only meant to be used on workout days. I lift 4 days per week and a tub of NO Shotgun (30 servings) at roughly $40 lasts me 7.5 weeks. That's about $5.33 per week for a supplement that does exactly what it's advertised to do and I don't have to take 15 different products to get the same effect.

Kaioken - I find the focus produced by NO Shotgun to be similar but slightly different to that of coffee. For me, NO Shotgun produces a mellow, but controlled increase in energy and focus. For whatever reason, coffee leaves me feeling jittery and slightly irritates my stomach. NO Xplode made me shake and I was so hyper that I felt like a ferret on crack.

[Crowned]

Roughly 40? I'm picking mines up for 29.95. It is a 1.78 lb tub though.

[Liftnainez]

from where?

[l2elapse]

guys how potent is the focus?

compare to coffee please if you can

i dont get very focused but the pumps are amazing

[CSAR]

Roughly 40? I'm picking mines up for 29.95. It is a 1.78 lb tub though.

Yes, I looked at several websites and offhand, it looked as though $40 was a rough estimate. Certainly you can get it cheaper than $40, but it's also selling for more than $40. That's why I said "roughly."

If you could give a link to where you're picking yours up, that'd be really great!!

[Panzerfaust]

Besides giving off a hellacious pump, what is the after effects of NO Shotgun?

Muscle growth? Cut you up? Or just designed to give you a boost in energy?

[surfnsailor]

I don't think this is an unreasonably priced supplement. It is only meant to be used on workout days. I lift 4 days per week and a tub of NO Shotgun (30 servings) at roughly $40 lasts me 7.5 weeks. That's about $5.33 per week for a supplement that does exactly what it's advertised to do and I don't have to take 15 different products to get the same effect.

I only here this type of reasoning from a sales tactic, are you making money promoting this item? I can tell you all I want is 50 cents a day for you to buy my bike, then bill you $365 for 2 years? If you could buy 4 servings for $5.33 than you could say that it costs $5.35 but you can’t. I have to spend roughly $40 to buy, that is how much it cost. It is all about how much you have to dish out at once.

Using your reasoning you could also say you spend roughly $300 a year on a product that is not that important for gains. That sounds foolish to me. IMO


IMO these people are wayyy over pricing there products, almost to a point of ripping you off. All you bros out there should save your money and buy some whey, flax, vitamins, big tub of creatine (without all the fancy hype wording)….all this stuff is wayyy more for your money.

You want a intense work out take ECA, AMP, or coffee.

[surfnsailor]

IMO. Just looking out for those who want to be wise with there money. IMO

[Schmidty]

my shotgun is awsome...

[UpstateTank]

guys how potent is the focus?

compare to coffee please if you can

In comparison to Amplify O2...

Focus & energy wise --> amplify hands down
Pump wise --> NO Shotgun hands down

[UpstateTank]

Besides giving off a hellacious pump, what is the after effects of NO Shotgun?

Muscle growth? Cut you up? Or just designed to give you a boost in energy?

Aside from the "hellacious pumps" (nothing else has ever gotten me this pumped)...
imo NO shotgun does have a bit of an anabolic factor to it, unlike other preworkout NO supplements. Its got a full dose of creatine and branch chains, which have anabolic properties to em. I'm sure it also has a small effect on fat burning given the caffeine & other thermogenic agents, but im gonna guess its minimal at best. When you compare shotgun to other preworkout NO supps (i.e. NO explode, superpump, amplify O2--ive used all 3), they dont have the same profile as the shotgun. Sure they have the arginine,caffeine & a smidge of creatine (not enough to really "do the job"), but in no way do those previously listed ingredients have anabolic properties to them. The one area thats def lagging in the shotgun is the focus and energy, but it more than makes up for it w/ the skin tearing pumps...the pumps are just this side of painful!

[Kaioken]

do you have the New Amplify 02 or the original?

the new Amplify is the "xt"

[UpstateTank]

do you have the New Amplify 02 or the original?

the new Amplify is the "xt"

original

[CSAR]

I only here this type of reasoning from a sales tactic, are you making money promoting this item? I can tell you all I want is 50 cents a day for you to buy my bike, then bill you $365 for 2 years? If you could buy 4 servings for $5.33 than you could say that it costs $5.35 but you can’t. I have to spend roughly $40 to buy, that is how much it cost. It is all about how much you have to dish out at once.

No, I'm not a salesman, nor am I affiliated with VPX (the maker of NO Shotgun). And no, I'm not interested in paying 50 cents for your bike.

How do you equate a payment plan (i.e., your "50 cents a day for you to buy my bike, then bill you $365 for 2 years?" idea) with buying something outright? Who in their right mind would buy single servings of a supplement?

I stated the rough price for one tub of NO Shotgun and broke it down into how many weeks it would last. I then gave a cost per week, which has nothing to do with your idea of a payment plan. Several supplement websites will give price per week and price per serving as a means of comparing supplements, NOT for payment plans. Obviously you're a graduate of Harvard Business School.

Just to make sure, you're saying that NO Shotgun doesn't produce gains? Jeez, what was I thinking? A product with creatine, BCAA's, and glutamine that also increases focus, energy, and motivation in the gym? Yeah, you're right...it does nothing for gains.

If you want to discourage people from buying supplements in the supplement forum, then start your own thread.

BTW brah, Dog the bounty hunter called and he wants his mullet back...

[surfnsailor]

No, I'm not a salesman, nor am I affiliated with VPX (the maker of NO Shotgun). And no, I'm not interested in paying 50 cents for your bike.

How do you equate a payment plan (i.e., your "50 cents a day for you to buy my bike, then bill you $365 for 2 years?" idea) with buying something outright? Who in their right mind would buy single servings of a supplement?

I stated the rough price for one tub of NO Shotgun and broke it down into how many weeks it would last. I then gave a cost per week, which has nothing to do with your idea of a payment plan. Several supplement websites will give price per week and price per serving as a means of comparing supplements, NOT for payment plans. Obviously you're a graduate of Harvard Business School.

Just to make sure, you're saying that NO Shotgun doesn't produce gains? Jeez, what was I thinking? A product with creatine, BCAA's, and glutamine that also increases focus, energy, and motivation in the gym? Yeah, you're right...it does nothing for gains.

If you want to discourage people from buying supplements in the supplement forum, then start your own thread.

BTW brah, Dog the bounty hunter called and he wants his mullet back...

You got me brah...

I just think it's to expensive

[surfnsailor]

Just to make sure, you're saying that NO Shotgun doesn't produce gains? Jeez, what was I thinking? A product with creatine, BCAA's, and glutamine that also increases focus, energy, and motivation in the gym? Yeah, you're right...it does nothing for gains.

Wow you’re just like a car salesman with this crap. I said it was not that “important” for gains, not that it won’t help you at all with gains. Man you have a thick skull.

The whole point is that we can be wiser with our money. Some supp are priced way to high for what you get. We have to decide which products are worth our money. I believe spending around $300 a year on this particular one is foolish. JMO

Like he says a product with Glu, BCAA, Cre… all this stuff can be had at a fraction of the cost. Mixed in one jug. Only taking a few minuites to mix will last you all year or longer. Would you rather pay a supp co. $150 to mix it for you when you can do it in a few minutes?

Anyway, I hope there are some brothers out there that are receiving this, that I am not writing all this in vain. I know there are some brothas out there that work hard for there money and want to be wise with it. Take care bros

[Panzerfaust]

Well this thread should be closed...all the useful info went away when the bickering started...thanks Surfnsailor.

[surfnsailor]

Well this thread should be closed...all the useful info went away when the bickering started...thanks Surfnsailor.

I guess you’re not the one who appreciates a good conflicting discussion. No bickering here, just the truth. Take it or leave it but don’t put the blame on me and put me down.

The youngsters are the target of these overly priced supp CO. and somebody’s got to look out for them. If you or others don’t like that that is too bad, I will look out for the youngsters no matter how many people think I’m “bickering”

THEY NEED TO HEAR BOTH SIDES

[Panzerfaust]

At 1:01am you say:

You got me brah...

I just think it's to expensive

At 3:06pm the next day, you start up again and say:

Wow you’re just like a car salesman with this crap. I said it was not that “important” for gains, not that it won’t help you at all with gains. Man you have a thick skull.

The whole point is that we can be wiser with our money. Some supp are priced way to high for what you get. We have to decide which products are worth our money. I believe spending around $300 a year on this particular one is foolish. JMO

Like he says a product with Glu, BCAA, Cre… all this stuff can be had at a fraction of the cost. Mixed in one jug. Only taking a few minuites to mix will last you all year or longer. Would you rather pay a supp co. $150 to mix it for you when you can do it in a few minutes?

Anyway, I hope there are some brothers out there that are receiving this, that I am not writing all this in vain. I know there are some brothas out there that work hard for there money and want to be wise with it. Take care bros

That my friend is bickering..all you had to say was..wow that is to expensive for me and alot of others, glad it works for you.

Of course there are companies out there ripping people off, not their fault they are to ignorant to decide what truly works and what does not.

Some of you take AAS..i do not and think it is expensive but i don't complain about it..

I'm not calling you out as i understand where you are coming from but it should'nt have been brought up in this thread, make another one.

[CSAR]

The youngsters are the target of these overly priced supp CO. and somebody’s got to look out for them. If you or others don’t like that that is too bad, I will look out for the youngsters no matter how many people think I’m “bickering”

THEY NEED TO HEAR BOTH SIDES

I guess the mullet comment pushed you over the edge, 'cause you had to come back hours later to make another post.

Instead of hijacking another person's thread with your anti-supps rhetoric, why don't you START YOUR OWN THREAD?

Have you even tried NO Shotgun? Until you do, you'll just come across as ignorant and un-informed.

BTW, where's your hall pass brah?

[JJP480]

I have been experimenting for years with pre work out elixirs . From gobblin down ephedrine caffine creatine glutamine ......the list goes on .
All mixtures helped but sooner or later fell by the waste side .
Then I tried No Explode and was very pleased but holy mac when I tried the Shotgun it blew me away . Wicked product for pre work out and the pumps ....well all who have tried it know what I am talking about .
It is expensive yes, but if you eat sleep train and then some .... you don't mind dippin into the pocket book .
IMO it does the job it set out to do and my workouts benifit ten fold .
It is not a necessity but what the hell drink it down ....just dont plan to sleep for a few hours after .

[wanescotting]

WOW! When did this thread become a fire hazard? I was just trying to pass along some useful info to others. If I want to spend $300 a month on supplements (and I do), I will.
Surfnsailor you claim you are watching out for the "youngsters"? Maybe Csar is trying to further that by letting folks know what works and what doesn't. Why don't you post YOUR wonder formula for a N.O. preworkout supplement? That would be helpful, your thread crapping is not.

[wanescotting]

Leg day #2 on N.O. Shotgun. CALM....I never realized how anxious and jumpy I was on N.O. Explode. It always mellowed me out, but today was awesome. Now, don't get me wrong, it doesn't make you tired or anything, but you feel relaxed (I am VERY high strung).
I did my normal workout, yet I feel as if I have done nothing, I have a feeling Doms (delayed onset muscle soreness) will be a bitch on Saturday.

[Anti]

Is buying supplements online run risky?
or is it just as good as buying in store?
It is almost hard to beieve its just as good online b/c its so much cheaper online!

[UpstateTank]

Is buying supplements online run risky?
or is it just as good as buying in store?
It is almost hard to beieve its just as good online b/c its so much cheaper online!

didnt i already answer this???

they are the exact same
there is no difference between any supplement that can be bought online or in a store

[StoneGRMI]

I'm going to give this product a shot. If this thread is still open by the time I have my review I'll let everyone know what I think!

[StoneGRMI]

I guess the mullet comment pushed you over the edge, 'cause you had to come back hours later to make another post.

Instead of hijacking another person's thread with your anti-supps rhetoric, why don't you START YOUR OWN THREAD?

Have you even tried NO Shotgun? Until you do, you'll just come across as ignorant and un-informed.

BTW, where's your hall pass brah?

I know thats an older post but that had me rollin'! What a great episode.

[CSAR]

I guess I should apologize to surfnsailor 'cause that wasn't very nice of me. I have no excuse for my rudeness other than to say MyogenX makes me "testy". He does have a good point - most supps are crap and way overpriced. Saving time and money are exactly why we should help each other and share info on supps that really work. There's also a thread on how to make your own supps, so if anyone has any ideas please post them.

Regarding the South Park episode...Brah, do you know what this is? It's bear mace!

[toyo92]

i agree with the NOxplode comment about feeling jittery certain times i took it...esp with little food in the stomach

write back with your review, nearly everything i need has to be ordered and takes about 10-14 days to get here. i try and take my time with products.

[TheNatural3456]

i just got mine....busting it out 2morrow....

[RANA]

I guess I should apologize to surfnsailor 'cause that wasn't very nice of me. I have no excuse for my rudeness other than to say MyogenX makes me "testy". He does have a good point - most supps are crap and way overpriced. Saving time and money are exactly why we should help each other and share info on supps that really work. There's also a thread on how to make your own supps, so if anyone has any ideas please post them.

Regarding the South Park episode...Brah, do you know what this is? It's bear mace!

CSAR - Amen, that is exactly what needed to be said!!!!!!!!!!!