can someone help me out with this?

[Got Insulin?]

M1,4ADD Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1 capsule
Servings Per Container: 60
Amount Per Serving:
Methyl-1,4-ADD 30mg

what exactly is this, and what do i expect from it?

could someone type for me the superdrol orignial chemical structure?

[rafael]

im finding the rest of the info now. will post back

[italianplayboy09]

this is the structure of SD 2a-17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one

[rafael]

from what i gather its a 2,17 dimethyl dht derived from androstane. the methyl binding on the second position may increase binding to shbg or albumin. T50 (half life is most likley increased by the alpha methyl dht- mestanolone.

[italianplayboy09]

if youre gonna go the prohormone route then go with m1t bro, i mean you can run SD if you want b/c i good some pretty good dry gains from it but im loving m1t that im running right now

[UpstateTank]

from what i gather its a 2,17 dimethyl dht derived from androstane. the methyl binding on the second position may increase binding to shbg or albumin. T50 (half life is most likley increased by the alpha methyl dht- mestanolone.

isnt that a bad thing?

[rafael]

isnt that a bad thing?

offcourse its a bad thing.. anything methylated is gonna put extra stress on the liver.

[UpstateTank]

offcourse its a bad thing.. anything methylated is gonna put extra stress on the liver.

well yea thats a given
but about the shbg...when you say "...the second position may increase binding to shbg..."

is that a bad thing?

I know shbg will bind to test basically lowering its bioavailability so would that fall under the category of being "bad"? Or would it be a "good" thing because this product is binding itself to shbg thus 'lowering' the amount of shbg and subsequently increasing the bioavailability of test?

[rafael]

it will hinder your natural recovery..yes...so thats a bad thing. i have been considering sugesting proviron to combat this.. however i have to read into this further .

[UpstateTank]

it will hinder your natural recovery..yes...so thats a bad thing. i have been considering sugesting proviron to combat this.. however i have to read into this further .

what about gains?

[rafael]

well if we mix SD with proviron ...proviron has a high affinity to bind to SHBG thus incraseing other AAS's effectivness bcse they stay unbound to shbg. however there is a downside to this as well..since priviron also has a high affinity to bind to steroid hormones in the blood. So less AAS's can bind to receptors. Now..youre asking about gains. im thinking it has to be a balancing act between SD and whatever else youre talking with it. I justused proviron as an example since it can help. But with proviron one would have to increase the dosage of SD to combat the negative effect proviron has. I will do some more research on this and post back

[Bryan2]

M14ADD is a prohormone to DBOL guys this is not the same as sd!

M14ADD will convert into DBOL at 15% you will see the exact same sides as you would with dbol because it converts into it.

[dboy]

if youre gonna go the prohormone route then go with m1t bro, i mean you can run SD if you want b/c i good some pretty good dry gains from it but im loving m1t that im running right now

i'm gonna ask again 'cause i did like sd but i heard m1t is insane - how the hell is everyone running m1t on here if it's banned as shit??? is there tons kicking around in the right places or is it available under a diff't name ??? i really wanna try it in the next month to 2 --- feedback pls

[Got Insulin?]

ya ditto are there any other names for m1t ?

[Got Insulin?]

i mean like that guy said i can find d bol in a prohormone form basically, superdrol, the not so winstrol , halodrol, and pplex..but man m1t is like finding a needle in a hay stack

[Got Insulin?]

check this out..

Serving Size: 1 Caps
Servings per container: 60
Amount Per Serving
12-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-diene 17
6-17 dihydroxyetiocholone-3-ol proponate 30mg

[rukus43]

Bryan2,
Are you sure that M14ADD converts into DBOL ? If so, it is not good to do a D-bol only cycle. Most of the time it is run with a test ester.

[dboy]

C'mon M1T'ers let us know the scoop

[Bryan2]

its bad to run an oral only cycle EVER to put things into perspective for you and yes it does convert into dbol

[rukus43]

Sounds good, I posted another thread on this subject with regards to staying away from M14Add since the gains off of D-bol only cycle are mostly water and non-sustainable. Other orals may be toxic but at least the gains are more solid. Am I on the right track here?