BIG Myogenx CONCERN, worked too well

**bedavis** · 03-07-2007, 09:55 PM

Hey guys,

I deff a bit concerned as of now. I've been taking myogenx for a bit over 1 week at 5/day with 2 pills novadex XT at night. My left nipple is deffinitley sore/tender right now. I'm 165lbs, 5'7' and ~10% bf right now btw. What do you guys suggest I do? Thanks.

**spywizard** · 03-07-2007, 10:03 PM

well, 1st i'd stop taking the myogenx... did you have or develope childhood gyno??

all myogenx does is boost your own natural production of test, so that's what's going on..

**spywizard** · 03-07-2007, 10:05 PM

didn't you run pherea-plex???

what was your pct like with that???

**bedavis** · 03-07-2007, 10:12 PM

yes I ran PP and I was fine with that. I did PP 20mg ed for one month and then ran nolva and clomid for another month as PCT for that, I forget what doses I used for that though since it was a while ago when I did that. I had absolutly no negative side effects from that that I know of. I did not develop childhood gyno.

**spywizard** · 03-07-2007, 10:15 PM

have you ever run test???

**bedavis** · 03-07-2007, 10:17 PM

I've never ran a "true" cycle before. PP is the only steroid that I've ever used.

**Dude-Man** · 03-07-2007, 10:26 PM

how old are you?

**bedavis** · 03-07-2007, 10:30 PM

I just turned 21.

**Dude-Man** · 03-07-2007, 10:35 PM

you might be too young for this.. the hormonal system doesn't really normalize until around 23 in most people.

**bedavis** · 03-07-2007, 10:44 PM

I know, I guess it was a risk I was willing to take. I thought that I wouldn't have any problems with this since I took PP ~6months ago with no issues whats so ever, and I assumed that since this was supposed to be very safe that I couldn't possibly have any issues with this. I was taking novadex XT because I thought since test was rising I might have an aromatase issue, but I didn't think that it would be enough so to have to use a real SERM. And now my nipple is soar.

**spywizard** · 03-08-2007, 09:47 AM

ya know, i had this happen when i 1st ran myogenx, puffy nip from estro buildup from excessive test production..

it's expected actually and a measure that the product is working..

so congrats on finding a product that works too well it seems for some.

If there is anything that can be said for this product and your experience, it is that it worked too well for you.

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 03-08-2007, 02:01 PM

Isnt nolva for a PP cycle not a good idea? That there can cause you your gyno...

**Swifto** · 03-08-2007, 02:47 PM

This is one of the reasons I'm using a low dose AI with my MyoGenX run soon. Or Proviron .

**K.Biz** · 03-08-2007, 05:54 PM

Im running letro with it right now @ 6 pills a day. (letros for gyno from SD which is almost gone and its only day 5

And i have to say this stuff woirks real good. dont like the shoulder acne though.

**spywizard** · 03-08-2007, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by K.Biz

Im running letro with it right now @ 6 pills a day. (letros for gyno from SD which is almost gone and its only day 5

And i have to say this stuff woirks real good. dont like the shoulder acne though.

I wonder.. have you ever run letro before?? did you get sides like loss of libedo?? if you did, let us know if the myogenx can keep up with the letro sides regarding the libedo..

thanks

**K.Biz** · 03-08-2007, 06:30 PM

i have never run letro before but if anything my libido has increased... alot.

**Rippedcanuck** · 03-08-2007, 06:33 PM

I wish I had the same problem with myogenx, it didnt do anything for me

**Manpretty** · 03-09-2007, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

Isnt nolva for a PP cycle not a good idea? That there can cause you your gyno...

can you explain why you would get gyno from a PP cycle with a NOVA pct?

**Manpretty** · 03-09-2007, 10:21 AM

im thinking your talking about progestrone related sides

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 03-09-2007, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Manpretty

can you explain why you would get gyno from a PP cycle with a NOVA pct?

well, im not exactly sure.
From what Ive heard and read, its not a good idea to run nolva with SD or PP.

If I can find the thread Ill post it, but Im sure someone can chime in and give more info.

**BITTAPART2** · 03-09-2007, 01:50 PM

i dont know anything about PP or SD other than they are strong legal supplements that are actually steroids yet toxic. if they are progestins like trenbolone for example the nolvadex uploads progesterone receptors and can make gyno worse...allthough if your able to eradicate all estrogen like w/ aromasin or letro you should be fine. if there is no estrogen no gyno can happen period even with an abundance of progesterone.

**K.Biz** · 03-09-2007, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by BITTAPART2

i dont know anything about PP or SD other than they are strong legal supplements that are actually steroids yet toxic. if they are progestins like trenbolone for example the nolvadex uploads progesterone receptors and can make gyno worse...allthough if your able to eradicate all estrogen like w/ aromasin or letro you should be fine. if there is no estrogen no gyno can happen period even with an abundance of progesterone.

+1..

**Manpretty** · 03-10-2007, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by BITTAPART2

i dont know anything about PP or SD other than they are strong legal supplements that are actually steroids yet toxic. if they are progestins like trenbolone for example the nolvadex uploads progesterone receptors and can make gyno worse...allthough if your able to eradicate all estrogen like w/ aromasin or letro you should be fine. if there is no estrogen no gyno can happen period even with an abundance of progesterone.

no estrogen no gyno???? is that true? because you if you use say letro there is not estrogen however does that not cause a neg feedback of increased progestrone????? and thus progestrone related gyno,,