Thread: SD in bulk cycle!
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04-03-2007, 05:26 PM #1
SD in bulk cycle!
1-4 AD50 50mg ED
1-12 Test-e 500mg EW
1-12 HCG 250iu EOD,EOW
1-12 L-Dex .25mg ED
8-10 Superdrol 30mg ED
11-12 Superdrol40mg ED
PCT
1-2 Nolva 40mg ED
1-2 Clomi 100mg ED
2-4 Nolva 20mg ED
2-4 Clomi 50mg ED
Ill be 20yrs old when i do this and 3.5yrs training 195lbs 15%bf. Could i run some SD into my cycle like this at the end without any more probs. I figured why not throw this in the supp section to see what u guys say about using SD in a cycle.Last edited by Schmidty; 04-03-2007 at 05:29 PM.
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04-03-2007, 05:35 PM #2RETIRED VET
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Didnt u post this yesterday?
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04-03-2007, 05:52 PM #3
I'd keep the SD dosage between 20-30mg. 40 seems a bit excessive. Also don't forget your cholesterol and bp supps. Niacin, fish oil, Vit C, hawthorne berry, policosanol, etc.
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04-03-2007, 06:22 PM #4Originally Posted by CaptainDominate
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04-03-2007, 06:23 PM #5Originally Posted by bulldawg_28
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04-03-2007, 06:23 PM #6RETIRED VET
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I put the other 1 in the steroid Q and A
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04-03-2007, 06:40 PM #7
ive only seen one other person use SD in a "real" cycle on another forum...not sure how he liked the results cause he was banned b4 the cycle was over ! but if i recall correctly he was using it at the end of his cycle like you
not sure how SD wuld react in a "real" cycle, but like suggested 40mg mite be a bit too much! dont ferget all your proper support supps either!
L-dex is letro rite? If so i kno that stuff can wreak havoc on your cholesterol levels..combine that w/ SD which wreaks havoc on cholesterol levels too and you mite b putting too much stress on yer body
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04-03-2007, 06:57 PM #8Originally Posted by UpstateTank
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04-03-2007, 08:36 PM #9Originally Posted by hawktribal
either way a-dex is still harsh on cholesterol right?
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04-03-2007, 09:09 PM #10Originally Posted by UpstateTank
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04-03-2007, 10:49 PM #11Originally Posted by bulldawg_28
from what I understand there are 2 types (i ferget the names of each)...but newayz stuff like armidex/letro act in a certain way vs other AI's like aromasin
now I could be wrong in how im thinking of this but...
AI's like letro work by literally nerfing all estrogen floating around your body thus preventing aromatization from occuring...no estrogen = negative effects on cholesterol
An AI like aromasin works via binding to the aromataze enzyme, thus preventing aromatization from occuring...the kicker is that aromasin does NOT nerf estrogen floating about your blood stream...so the estrogen is there but it does not have ne thing to attach to, thus rendering aromasin "gentle" on cholesterol levels
*someone correct me if im WRONG *
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04-03-2007, 11:27 PM #12Originally Posted by UpstateTank
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04-03-2007, 11:32 PM #13Originally Posted by UpstateTank
To understand why Aromasin may be useful in conjunction with Nolvadex while both Letro and A-dex suffer reduced effectiveness, we’ll need to first understand the differences between a Type-I and Type-II Aromatase Inhibitor. Type I inhibitors (like Aromasin) are actually steroidal compounds, while type II inhibitors (like Letro and A-dex) are non-steroidal drugs. Hence, androgenic side effects are very possible with Type-I AIs, and they should probably be avoided by women. Of course, there are some similarities between the two types of AIs…both type I & type II AIs mimic normal substrates (essentially androgens), allowing them to compete with the substrate for access to the binding site on the aromatase enzyme. After this binding, the next step is where things differ greatly for the two different types of AI’s. In the case of a type-I AI, the noncompetitive inhibitor will bind, and the enzyme initiates a sequence of hydroxylation; this hydroxylation produces an unbreakable covalent bond between the inhibitor and the enzyme protein. Now, enzyme activity is permanently blocked; even if all unattached inhibitor is removed. Aromatase enzyme activity can only be restored by new enzyme synthesis. Now, on the other hand, competitive inhibitors, called type II AI’s, reversibly bind to the active enzyme site, and one of two things can happen: 1.) either no enzyme activity is triggered or 2.) the enzyme is somehow triggered without effect. The type II inhibitor can now actually disassociate from the binding site, eventually allowing renewed competition between the inhibitor and the substrate for binding to the site. This means that the effectiveness of competitive aromatase inhibitors depends on the relative concentrations and affinities of both the inhibitor and the substrate, while this is not so for noncompetitive inhibitors. Aromasin is a type-I inhibitor, meaning that once it has done its job, and deactivated the aromatase enzyme, we don’t need it anymore. Letrozole and Arimidex actually need to remain present to continue their effects. This is possibly why Nolvadex does not alter the pharmacokinetics of Aromasin (11).
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04-04-2007, 07:32 AM #14
^ nice post
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04-04-2007, 07:35 AM #15Originally Posted by Schmidty
Last edited by Schmidty; 04-04-2007 at 09:03 AM.
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04-04-2007, 09:09 AM #16
bump
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04-04-2007, 11:45 AM #17
yer gonna wanna take 25mg of exemestane per day, not .25--unless dats a typo!
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04-04-2007, 12:08 PM #18
schmidty since this is ur first cycle and considering ur liver problems why not stick to the test e?
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04-04-2007, 12:11 PM #19
i actually agree with notorious start off small on your first cycle esp if you have liver problems id stay away from orals
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04-04-2007, 12:23 PM #20
if you have liver problems bro you shouldnt even think about the orals. just chill, the cycle will be good enough. if its your first cycle, just do the test. no need for the SD
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04-04-2007, 12:25 PM #21
taking orals with liver problems is really gonna F you up
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04-05-2007, 12:37 PM #22
Sorry i didnt mean to bump this
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04-06-2007, 01:07 PM #23
so whats the verdict
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04-06-2007, 06:07 PM #24
no sd 4 me
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04-07-2007, 09:14 AM #25Originally Posted by Schmidty
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04-07-2007, 12:30 PM #26
I guess ill just use a bunch of tren instead. HAHAHAH no im fvckin around.
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04-07-2007, 12:33 PM #27Originally Posted by Schmidty
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