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09-09-2007, 11:16 PM #1
Which is the Best ProHormone?? Rate from personal experience.
Im thinking about doing a prohormone cycle bc im trying to pack on some serious size/mass. ive already done (2) juice cycles (1st was total screw up bc didnt know wat i was doing) and i the gear had 2 be bunk bs for my second one. Anyways i wana know which of these prohormones is the best
1) Epistane
2) H-Drol
3) M-Drol
4) Original H-D
5) Methyl DX-3
6) Testanate-50
7) Tren -X
8) Mass Tabs
9) Phera-Bol
10) 11-Oxo
11) Oxevol
12) Superdrol NG
13) Methyl E
14) Havoc
15) Testadrol
I know thats a long list but anybody who has had experience with one or more of these products would be a great help in letting me know ur results and side effects if any... Ive wasted so much money on supplements from gnc and wat not and i just wana find a product that will give me some of the gains that i am looking for. Thanks. MUCH APPRECIATED.
Stats = 21yrs old. 170lbs. 6'. 13% b/f. lifting around 3yrs (used to b fat, then got skinny, tryin 2 bulk up a lil bit but would like LEAN mass more than anything)
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Ive only ran superdrol and phera phlex. I prefer superdrol.
superdrol sides can be a bitch though compared to phera phlex, but the results i loved...and they r nice dry gains. up a solid 13lbs, and bench up 40lbs in 1 month is pretty cool
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09-10-2007, 11:45 AM #3
what kind of sides are we talking here?? like equivalent to d-bol or something? damn. those are crazy results for 1 month. wat results did u get from the phera plex?? thanks
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09-10-2007, 01:49 PM #4
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Phera-Plex the replacement for Superdrol
o and SD FTW!
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09-10-2007, 03:01 PM #5
i <3 superdrol as well
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09-10-2007, 04:38 PM #6
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I did 2 cycles of PP and enjoyed the results
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Originally Posted by BGIZZLE8629
sides...first time on SD, got a nosebleed (bloodpressure)....back pumps can be nasty...uuummm, headaches (bloodpressure)...and my liver was all jacked....but it all soons goes away with running the proper supporting supps.
phera phlex, i gained about 8lbs, but the gains seemed "wet", as compared to SD's dry gains. my strength went up just about the same as with SD.....and as far as PP goes, way less sides than SD...no nosebleeds, back pumps....
tforegot to add...as far was weight gain, alot depends on diet....with a solid bulker, you could gain a good 15-20lbs on SD or PP
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09-10-2007, 11:17 PM #8Originally Posted by bcaasdirty
thanks for the links... idk wat ftw means tho???
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09-10-2007, 11:51 PM #9Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx
Also, so wat is the BEST sd clone out now??? Methyl DX3? M-Drol? Reg. Oxevol (not oxevol-12)?? Idk which one to buy. Thanks for your help everybody.
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09-11-2007, 12:12 AM #10
i mean are these clones even worth giving a try?? they are like $25-60 while i found a source w/ the REAL THING but for $150.... do these clones even compare to the real thing or wat??
i can get the real PP for around $60 as well..... wat should i do guys?
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09-11-2007, 12:22 AM #11
Did you have any libido issues on PP? Which in your opinion was more suppressive of the two?
Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx
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09-11-2007, 01:01 AM #12
the only EXACT CLONES i can find for SD is "oxevol" and "torque"... "mass tabs" also greatly resembles sd w the addition of "-1-ene-" in between androstane and 3-one.... other than that all of the other "clones" just vaguely resemble the chemical structure of REAL SD. The next closest is Powerdrol which is missing the "hydroxy" chain in the chemical structure. Im not exactly sure wat mass tabs and powerdrol are actually missing/adding actually means so idk where to take that one.....
So w that said.. i should definitely stick w oxevol, torque, or mass tabs. Right?? Thanks again.
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09-11-2007, 06:23 AM #13Originally Posted by BGIZZLE8629
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09-11-2007, 09:37 AM #14
ha ok.
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Originally Posted by bulldawg_28
with PP, i had slight libido problems...but SD shuts you down hard...couldnt get my shit back until 3rd week of PCT lol
a great PCT to run for both SD and PP is:
wk1-4:clomid 105mg/105mg/70mg/70mg
wk1-4:aromasin 25mg/25mg/25mg/25mg
wk1-4:myogenx 6 caps ED
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Originally Posted by BGIZZLE8629
my first sd cycle, got gyno, but it was due to my very poorly done PCT.
my friend ran M-Drol and had very similar gains to my good sd cycle.
but ev1 is different.....
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09-11-2007, 06:51 PM #17
Alright. thanks bigsexxy. so you think that i should try the m-drol or stick w/ the EXACT same compound as SD (torque/oxevol)?? bump for other opinions as well
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Originally Posted by BGIZZLE8629
i would get the same exact compound if you can.
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09-12-2007, 03:27 PM #19
alrite cool.... ill probably get the oxevol then bc its hella cheaper. but so u didnt get any acne or mpb sides while on SD??
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09-12-2007, 04:02 PM #20
its between m1t and sd. i have done both. m1t helped me gain 2 more pounds than sd did in a month but m1t made my hair start falling out in the shower so i wouldnt do that sshit again. sd is great. no hair loss at all and the only side i had besides a slight loss of libido was a central nervous system overload. i liked to work out so much on that stuff that i would stay in the gym for hours to the point where i would have to sleep in the car afterwards just so i get enough strength to drive home. the gains were good (from 198-209lbs) and dry. strength gains were also nice. in fact i liked sd so much that i stocked up on the original anabolic xtreme SD so i have a few bottles left if i ever decided to jump on again.
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Originally Posted by BGIZZLE8629
but it was nothing outrageous..and i have mild acne btw
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09-13-2007, 10:33 AM #22
i used to love M-1-T
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09-13-2007, 10:47 AM #23
yea m1t was good shit
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09-13-2007, 11:15 AM #24
The only ones I ever took were 1-ad and Methyl-d. The 1-ad I made good gains on and kept them. The methyl-d was expensive and useless. My lipid profile was royally fvcked too.
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09-13-2007, 11:48 AM #25
not to jack the thread but whats the dif between Phera-bol and P-plex? other then like $4..
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09-13-2007, 10:12 PM #26Originally Posted by Sepsis
good 2 know about the hair loss as well... if sd is bad in any way for MPB ill prolly stay away from it all together. thanks again everybody.
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09-13-2007, 11:15 PM #27
I would have to say testanate 50 hands down if your looking for great mass and strength gains. its Finigenx/Superdrol/Halodrol all in one pill. just one bottle would b a 4 week cycle, save some money too. I gained a solid 12 pounds after p.c.t. with this. just take some liver supps while on and off cycle.
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09-13-2007, 11:19 PM #28
the best shit I ever took was AST 19-nor Andro 3 stacked with this stuff called Syntrax.
My gains were sick. That stuff is long gone though. I used it back in the day. Like 2001.
M1t never did anything for me by itself. But I stacked it once with 1-ad/4-ad transdermal, and I blew up like a Hulk.
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09-13-2007, 11:32 PM #29
testanate 50 is a stack in one pill. great gains with no harsh side effects. I'm goin hit this up again in december to bulk up in the winter months. stayin natural rite now, let my body build the test for awhile. just came off of IBold 200 stacked with Furzadrol for an 8 week cycle. great for lean muscle mass with some fat loss.
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09-14-2007, 12:10 AM #30Originally Posted by wukillabee
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09-14-2007, 12:20 AM #31Originally Posted by BGIZZLE8629
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09-14-2007, 08:04 AM #32Originally Posted by wukillabee
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09-14-2007, 10:56 AM #33
real simple, 60 caps come in a bottle. I go to the gym first thing when I wake up so first dose 30 minutes before the gym. since its methyl, take the second dose like 5 or six hours later. just two pills a day is all u need. simple prohormone p.c.t. is all u need. I love the reduce XT and inhibit-E combo. also a good liver cleanse while on and off cycle.
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09-14-2007, 03:27 PM #34Originally Posted by wukillabee
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Originally Posted by BGIZZLE8629
dont use that otc pct crap. just get clomid and aromasin . better safe than sorry trust me. my shit ass otc pct is what got me gyno.
and that testanate stuff..idk man..3 toxic orals into 1? doesnt sound good. u will get just as good results with superdrol alone
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09-14-2007, 07:59 PM #36Originally Posted by BGIZZLE8629
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09-14-2007, 08:18 PM #37Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx
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09-14-2007, 08:23 PM #38
for the dosing, just take one pill with lunch and the second with ur pre-workout whey shake 30-45 min. before ur evening workout. I'm taking leviathan right now with my p.c.t. and I notice it working nicely. it helps bring up ur natural test level and burns fat at the same time. great product to take with p.c.t.
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09-14-2007, 08:28 PM #39
or u can take ur first pill with breakfast. either way, the supp is methyl so it will stay in ur system as long as u take it twice a day at least 5 hrs apart. take no more than two pills a day. ull feel it by the end of the first week and probably peak by end of week 2. its a strong fast acting prohormone, ull love it. not too bad of a price either considering trying to buy 2 or more prohormones a la carte and then stacking them. 1 bottle will last u a 4 week cycle.
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Originally Posted by wukillabee
when you start stacking up toxic orals...especially with these "pro steroids ", the risks far outweigh the results, just ask anyone on here, that knows what their talking about, and im sure a cycle of SD alone would be their choice....MORE DOES NOT MEAN BETTER!!...30mg of SD is all you need
and how will proper bloodwork stop the toxicity? and also, PCT doesnt help detoxifiy the toxic compunds. and u also forgot to metion the BP supps and cholesterol supps,,,and prostate
it appears u dont know alot of what yr talking about, no offense or anything
lol man, wheres Kbiz, Bryan, Giants at? and all u other reliable supps guys??Last edited by xlxBigSexyxlx; 09-14-2007 at 08:59 PM.
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