Winstrol or Winni-v

**Csousax603** · 02-22-2009, 02:22 PM

Im new to this so any comments are welcomed and needed. a little about myself im 5'7 right now around 184 i was 239 so a very big big boy. im only 19 years old. ill upload a pic asap. a before and current. Now a lot of my boys that i workout with say winii-v is a great cutter but everything i read online says its nothing special and cardio and diet are just the way to go. I feel like i do a lot of cardio every week and diet right i just dont see a loss of weight in the past 3 weeks. So im thinking about taking one of the 2 supplements even though there basically the same thing right?

**Csousax603** · 02-22-2009, 03:49 PM

update im actually 184 now so ive lost 55lbs in about a year. all natural basically just eating right. but any help would be welcomed. I just need to know if winstrol injectables are worth doing to cut my weight by 15-30lbs over a cycle. I do a lot of cardio and have started eatign right again so i think this may be a good thing for me. Any HELP?

**ralph4u2c** · 02-22-2009, 04:52 PM

continue researching accredited sources. remember, diet and training IS ALWAYS the main thing to get results. also, remember research from accredited journals and sites > your friends and their bro-science.

i have no clue what the **** winni-V is, if my memory serves me right that is an herbal product sold by SDI Labs and not winstrol . continue to research over the next 2-3 years, you are 19 you have no need using hormones. try a good fat burner, low carb diet, and 30 minutes of cardio 4-5x a week.

if you need help with research, diet, or training please let us know we'll be more than happy to help. using winstrol is the wrong idea, specially at the age of 19. if you aren't making gains that means you need to up the cardio and cut the cals. good luck.

**Csousax603** · 02-22-2009, 04:58 PM

no problem man and ur right about winni-v it is from sdi labs. Its garbage. but winstrol is the real sh** supposedly that i think i should take in a month or two before i get down to 175 because im @ 184 right now and im barely 5'7. i wanna get to 160 and around 10% bf. i just feel like i cant lose anymore weight even though i really can. i run everyday and i've been stuck @ 184 for 3 weeks almost a month. Im trying a new diet tomorrow so we'll see how this goes over the next 2-3 weeks. I wasn't planning on taking the winstrol for another month till i got my tax money back lol Thanks for the advice though. Any other knowledge you have let me know man im all ears. Thanks again!

**ralph4u2c** · 02-22-2009, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Csousax603

Any other knowledge you have let me know man im all ears. Thanks again!

Winstrol helps me to become more vascular and hard, its fat loss properties are nothing like a good diet and cardio in conjunction with a good fat burning stack.

What types of fat burners have you tried, what is your real current and future diet plans, and what type of cardio have you been doing. Be honest

**POPS** · 02-24-2009, 08:46 PM

I agree bro! Diet and cardio all the way. Try thworing a little creatine in the mix and see what happens, esp at 19..

**NBRD1808** · 02-24-2009, 09:02 PM

For get the winstrol mate for now do everything to ensure your diet is on point 100% and factor in a decent cardio and weight training regime. By doing this it will be failure proof and you will reach your goals without having to use winstrol. grab yourself a good fatburner to complement ya diet. Winstrol by itself isnt much chop and winstrol by itself with no pct definantly isnt much chop. goodluck man

**Csousax603** · 02-26-2009, 03:54 PM

thanks guys for all your input. My current diet is like every other popular diet out there in mens fitness magazines. 2000 calories or less. Right carbs and high protein very low fat. My cardio is real good actually. I run almost ED to atleast 5 days a week 20-45 mins each occurance. I do this hydroxycut running program and it burns more calories then i would ever imagine in less than 15 mins im above 240 calories. I just purchases "Asia Black 25" and within the first 30 hours i lost 4 lbs. Now i know most of this is water weight but i feel like i will lose 10-20 lbs on this in just 2-4 weeks of 2 bottles. 2-4 pills a day. Let me know what u guys think about my cardio if i should do more or less. I also do my weight trainging as well. Is Asia Black 25 a good fat burner? i hear its the best.