Are prohormones the same thing as designer aas????

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-08-2010, 11:14 AM

Hi.

I have been reading alot about prohormones and designer aas....

Are prohormones the same thing as designer aas?

What is etioallocholan? Is it the same as androstan?

A DEA report said that they found Desoxymethyltestosterone (madol, 17α-methyl-5α-androst-2-en-17β-ol) in Phera Plex and clones such as CEL's P-Plex....

Are 17α-methyl-5α-androst-2-en-17β-ol and 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol the same thing?

http://www.cheapuksupplements.com/sh...php/635/p_plex
http://www.chemie.de/lexikon/e/Desox...ltestosterone/

My buoy D7M says they are not the same thing.

Is 4-hydroxyandrostenedione http://www.cheapuksupplements.com/sh...830/formestane the same thing as formestane I. M Dept?

***D7M*** · 02-08-2010, 11:32 AM

No, I said I didn't know if they are the same, and that I don't know squat about PHs.

**IM708** · 02-08-2010, 12:43 PM

they are the same thing.

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-08-2010, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by D7M

No, I said I didn't know if they are the same, and that I don't know squat about PHs.

sorry bruv....

i thought u said madol was more potent than phera plex!

I rememba u sayin u knew didly squat bout PHs!

What do u think of bp n cholesterol values?

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-08-2010, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by IM708

they are the same thing.

that is nutz!....

so basically CEL and others are not only selling a VERY ANABOLIC aas (P-Plex, Phera Plex and Phera Vol) but a VERY POTENT AI, PPI (Progesterone-Prolactin Inhibitor), SHBG lowerer, and 5-apha reductase inhibitor (Fomestane, Formex and Formadrol)!

That is bare sick and bare ill!

Isn't that a bit dodgy?

So PHs are designer AAS!

.... MENTAL!

**dec11** · 02-08-2010, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by GREAKWESSNIPES

that is nutz!....

so basically CEL and others are not only selling a VERY ANABOLIC aas (P-Plex, Phera Plex and Phera Vol) but a VERY POTENT AI, PPI (Progesterone-Prolactin Inhibitor), SHBG lowerer, and 5-apha reductase inhibitor (Fomestane, Formex and Formadrol)!

That is bare sick and bare ill!

Isn't that a bit dodgy?

So PHs are designer AAS!

.... MENTAL!

they can be much harsher than AAS, theyre just pushed onto the market with no research until they are banned then the company starts again with another product or alteration

**IM708** · 02-08-2010, 08:58 PM

Whats so mystifying about that...? Here's a short definition of desginer drug:

Designer drug is a term used to describe drugs which are created (or marketed, if they had already existed) to get around existing drug laws, usually by modifying the molecular structures of existing drugs to varying degrees,

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-09-2010, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by declan11

they can be much harsher than AAS, theyre just pushed onto the market with no research until they are banned then the company starts again with another product or alteration

yo bro.

There r some PHs that r MORE LIVER TOXIC than Anadrol n Metribolone, MORE DAMAGING to HDL/LDL than winnie and tren !

Av u ever used PHs/ designer AAS?

Do u think they r worth the money?

How effective r they at their job?

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-09-2010, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by IM708

Whats so mystifying about that...? Here's a short definition of desginer drug:

Designer drug is a term used to describe drugs which are created (or marketed, if they had already existed) to get around existing drug laws, usually by modifying the molecular structures of existing drugs to varying degrees,

Are they worth the money?

How effective r they at doin their job?

**IM708** · 02-09-2010, 03:12 PM

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-09-2010, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by IM708

Very funny!

I do not get ur post bro!

**dec11** · 02-09-2010, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by GREAKWESSNIPES

Are they worth the money?

How effective r they at doin their job?

havent used em and wouldnt either matey, they arent tried and tested.

**dec11** · 02-09-2010, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by GREAKWESSNIPES

Very funny!

I do not get ur post bro!

the kid still enjoys a bit of sesame street

**2jz_calgary** · 02-09-2010, 09:43 PM

they arent worth the money just do a tryed and tested oral such as dbol or anadrol . with test that is

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-10-2010, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by declan11

havent used em and wouldnt either matey, they arent tried and tested.

Thanx bro.

I thought alot of suup comps used animal tesing , cell line testing and uni sports students volunteers to test products....

Thats what someone told me in a supp shop neway!

Goose suggested em to me b4 that i was goin 2 use aas?

Wanna hear smfin COMPLETELY NUTZ....

Ill pm it 2 u!

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-10-2010, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by 2jz_calgary

they arent worth the money just do a tryed and tested oral such as dbol or anadrol. with test that is

I like primo and var 4 orals with test prop or androl.

I would not d-bol n a50s on my 1st cycle.

**lexruger** · 02-10-2010, 09:46 AM

i have to disagree that they do not work. The fact that real gear is better would make a lot of people not even mess with prohormones. They are toxic but for the price and the gains that are attainable with proper diet and training i think that they are worth the money,

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-10-2010, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by lexruger

i have to disagree that they do not work. The fact that real gear is better would make a lot of people not even mess with prohormones. They are toxic but for the price and the gains that are attainable with proper diet and training i think that they are worth the money,

I think they r descent n good value....

I rememba back in the day when maximuscle, BSN and Syntrax used to have 19 nor andro PHs n andro PHs!

You could buy them from a supplement store like Workout World or GNC!

I like CEL's and Anabolic Xtreme's ranges.

**Triple Stack** · 02-10-2010, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by lexruger

i have to disagree that they do not work. The fact that real gear is better would make a lot of people not even mess with prohormones. They are toxic but for the price and the gains that are attainable with proper diet and training i think that they are worth the money,

Yeah, and at $10 a bottle the distributors were blowing them out at right before the Jan 4th ban sure makes it worth the money !!!

Not that I stockpiled or anything,

but if I did I wouldn't be needing any supplements for a looong time