How does this stack look

**crazypat123** · 08-26-2010, 03:10 AM

Muscle tech - naNO vapor (honestly never been a fan of muscle tech but this really works!)

Creatine Monohydrate - just starting it not sure if i should do a loading phase, usually i just take one scoop after my workout with apple juice.

L-Arginine one teaspoon before bed with water

Trump Multi-vitamins with breakfast

Vitamin B-100 with meal after workout

**bcaasdirty** · 08-26-2010, 12:38 PM

wat r ur goals? hard to give a response w/ out an ends in mind

lets see some goals and ill let u know!

**bigslick7878** · 08-26-2010, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by crazypat123

Muscle tech - naNO vapor (honestly never been a fan of muscle tech but this really works!)

Creatine Monohydrate - just starting it not sure if i should do a loading phase, usually i just take one scoop after my workout with apple juice.

L-Arginine one teaspoon before bed with water

Trump Multi-vitamins with breakfast

Vitamin B-100 with meal after workout

What is the purpose of taking arginine before bed? I mean it won't hurt but...

It should be taken pre workout and near the end of the workout. Same with the creatine.

**...aydn...** · 08-26-2010, 04:49 PM

ur gonna be pissing some expensive urine.

**crazypat123** · 08-26-2010, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by bigslick7878

What is the purpose of taking arginine before bed? I mean it won't hurt but...

It should be taken pre workout and near the end of the workout. Same with the creatine.

arginine is known to stimulate the release of growth hormones, sleeping is the when most test is produced

**juicyjayjay** · 10-16-2010, 11:22 PM

looks okay but you can do better on the pre-workout

**l2elapse** · 10-17-2010, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by crazypat123

Muscle tech - naNO vapor (honestly never been a fan of muscle tech but this really works!)
muscle tech is always overpriced, look into cheaper alt
Creatine Monohydrate - just starting it not sure if i should do a loading phase, usually i just take one scoop after my workout with apple juice. 5 g pre and 5 g post work best for me

L-Arginine one teaspoon before bed with water take 3 g before workout

Trump Multi-vitamins with breakfast staple

Vitamin B-100 with meal after workout

not needed that is the B-100

**Times Roman** · 10-18-2010, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by crazypat123

arginine is known to stimulate the release of growth hormones, sleeping is the when most test is produced

not sure about your dose mate. A teaspoon? How many grams is that? I've read an optimal dose is 7 to 10 grams on an empty stomach before bed will trigger the effect you are craving. Since arginine is some nasty stuff that can make you nauseaus, I continuously cut it back until finally at only 2 grams, then I 86'd it entirely. But I'm 48, and probably too old anyways. I hope you are fully grown, and at least 21 or 22, otherwise there could be some sides you may not expect or want.

Have you read about GABA? it too is a known secretague triggering the release of HGH. Search on GABA either here or on the net. You can also try Wiki for some good info. Let us know what you find out.