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05-03-2014, 08:59 PM #1161
glucosamine, msm, chrondroitin (can find in a triple strength pill)
HGH
cissus_ I have heard from others on this but no personal experience with it.
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05-03-2014, 09:02 PM #1162
glucosamine, msm, chrondroitin (can find in a triple strength pill)
HGH
cissus_ I have heard from others on this but no personal experience with it.
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05-03-2014, 10:26 PM #1163Junior Member
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Awesome read, as usual, Austinite. Perhaps you could do a write up on, or add in, curcumin. The stuff seriously works wonders for inflammation without any of the potential negative side effects from OTC NSAIDs. It's not as strong as any of the NSAIDs but the aspect of no stomach bleeding/ulcers is pretty awesome. It's also been touted to reduce estrogen levels, albeit I'm sure it's not by a huge amount and I haven't read many studies on it as I just take the curcumin for reduced pain/inflammation.
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05-04-2014, 03:01 PM #1165New Member
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Hi, very interesting to read.
General question:
- Is your sup profile and the mg values you wrote on the first side the dose, roid users should use, or benefit naturals with these sups and their amount the same way?
- Do u take all these sups the hole year? No matter if cutting, bulking, on/off cycling etc.
- Are these values a total? So, also vitamins, minerals etc. from food, whey, etc. included?
Greetings
Ps: Sry for my bad English : PLast edited by Chepre; 05-04-2014 at 03:21 PM.
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05-04-2014, 03:09 PM #1166Junior Member
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That is interesting, I did not know that. Hey, even more power to curcumin. I take it before and after working out to primarily help with joint health. This was in response to Gearbox's post, accidentally didn't reply with a quote.
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05-05-2014, 09:04 AM #1169Junior Member
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That is interesting as well, I'd further look into it. Curcumin is recommended to a lot of breast cancer patients, so it would seem odd that they would recommend something that is potentially cancer causing when it is used to help treat breast cancer in conjunction with other methods. However, even if it is carcinogenic, I believe the minute risks (if any) of developing cancer are outweighed by it's other benefits. In this day and age, just about everything seems to be at least mildly carcinogenic.
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05-06-2014, 03:50 PM #1170New Member
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Hi Austinie, quiet new to this Forum, and a Beginner regarding supplementing AAs, Vits, Minerals etc.
Reading on the first page your daily supp plan, I was wondering about some things.
Maybe you could Point it out for me, would appreciate it.
1. Aren t there any important things missing?
- Beta Alanin
- Vit B 1,2,3,5,11
-Iron (taking it together with Vit C + B6)
-Calcium
-Calium (Vit D3 supportin the calium Resorption very good)
-Chrome
2. Some questions related to your list
- Glutamin:
Wondering about your 1500 mg before bed. Always thought about 10 g each day to have significant effect/Regeneration.
- L Tyrosin:
Thought this effects only during a diaet as pre workout?
- L Carnitin:
Same, thought it is only necessary in a diat, why perma use it?
- Vit B6:
Would you consider 100 g as an absolut max value daily? Afaik ovedosing possible with B6.
- Aspirin:
Any risks to supplement it daily? Related to your blood? Which effects has Aspirin?
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05-06-2014, 09:51 PM #1171
Rarely ever a need for calcium or iron.
No problem supplementing aspirin daily.
Everything else is answered in the thread my friend. Sorry, I've repeated myself one too many times~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
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05-09-2014, 12:13 AM #1172
aust- you mentioned something about getting from a doc to help with vascularity. Is it something other than Cialis?
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"It's human nature in a 'more is better' society full of a younger generation that expects instant gratification, then complain when they don't get it. The problem will get far worse before it gets better". ~ kelkel
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05-10-2014, 11:06 AM #1174
Aus where is a good place to buy empty capsules? I am gonna be putting together Nolvadex , Clomid, Cialis and some others into there own capsule as I find it to be way cheaper to buy in Powder form. Thanks!
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05-10-2014, 08:09 PM #1175
^ amazon. Anywhere really, empty caps are empty caps
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05-12-2014, 03:13 AM #1176New Member
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After I ve read now all 30 sites, I would like show my profile to check please I m not a native speaker, but think most things I got so far
Would appreciate any comments from you Austinate regarding this profile and timing.
I m 29, 174 cm tall, 73 kg, about 11 % BF. Training 4-5 Times a weak. Never used roids, and also at the moment not cycling yet.
Morning
Aspirin 80 mg
Beta Alanin (only during diet, 4-5g)
Cialis 10mg
Copper 2mg
CoQ 10 100 mg (together with fat?)
Fish Oil liquid: 5 ml
(5 ml have: Omega 3: EPA: 186 mg, DHA: 58 mg. Omega 6 :GLA 20mg, mixed tocopherole 9.6mg, Vit E (D alpha Tocopherol 1.92 mg)
L Arginin 1g
L Carnitin 3000 mg
L Citrulline 1g
Vit C 500 mg
Vit D3 4000 IU (together with fat?)
Zinc 50 mg
PRE-WORKOUT:
L-Citrulline Malate - 3 grams
L-Arginine (micronized) - 2 grams
L-Lysine - 2 grams
L-Methionine - 1 gram
POST WORKOUT:
Whey + Dextrose + Creatin (while bulking)
L-Cysteine - 1 to 2 grams (together with vitamin E?)
Vitamin C - 500 mg
Before bed:
NAC 600 mg
Magnesium Citrat 400 mg
L Tyrosine 3g (why you chose only 1g?)
Glutamin 10g (same here, why do u have only 1.5 g?)
Is the timing and mixture of these diff supps ok like this?
Maybe same important things you noticed, or something important stillt to add?
Was thinking to include GABA before Bed too, does it make sense?
A lil bit OFFTOPIC:
- I ve read in this thread, that you are not a fan of whey, and that most whey is useless/shit. But why, what do you mean exactly? And which brands of whey do u consider as "good"
- U also wrote, that most ppl are eating too much prots. What is too much for you? Wouldn t u consider 2.5-5g Prot each kg ?Last edited by Chepre; 05-12-2014 at 03:21 AM.
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05-12-2014, 07:21 AM #1177
I've answered the questions above,. Chepre, I can not longer repeat. But I'll answer what I think I havent.
Please find where I said whey is useless shit, and quote me so I know exactly what I was referencing. I may have been referencing it with respect to my diet.
Protein (although this should be in the diet section), you don't need to feed your fat. So never calculate or multiply protein by total weight. That would mean that a man that weighs 200lbs at 30% BF would require the same amount of a man weighing 200lbs at 9% BF. Make sense?
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05-12-2014, 11:58 AM #1178New Member
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On page 27.
Anyway, probably u have answered already some of the stuff I wanted to know. But due the fact, I just learned english in school many years ago and live in Germany I did not get everything 100 %. Just wanted to get it checked for me personally, if I unterstood it correct, and if my timing and mixture of the supps I listed is right. Did not want you to blame or sth. and to repeat yourself the 100 time because I am just to lazy to read. I v read every single post here
Ty anyway!
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05-12-2014, 04:56 PM #1179
Page 27 doesnt mean anything buddy. please quote the exact phrase. Everyone has different settings for pages and posts per page.
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05-13-2014, 03:17 AM #1180New Member
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Ah did not know sry. Too stupid to Quote Multi. Anyway, the question was:
Originally Posted by jwh7699 View Post:
Regarding Amino Acids. Wouldn't it be easier taking a protein powder with all of them in it? Thanks!!
Your answer:
And my second question: Reading sometimes about risk of stomach bleeding related to taking perma Aspirin. Am I right, that 80 mg is much too low for concerning about this issue?
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05-13-2014, 06:15 AM #1181
Garbage is in reference to sugar content and other ingredients/fillers that are commonly found in protein powders.
use enteric aspirin.~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
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05-13-2014, 01:56 PM #1182New Member
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Ty for clarafication.
Two final questions:
1. When you write in ur profile "mornings" do u mean u take supps on empty belly or after breakfast?
2. Would you change the amount of certain vitamins (depending on the vegetables) if you f.e. eat every day 1 lbs vegetables?
Best Regards
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05-13-2014, 09:28 PM #1183
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1. Does not matter.
2. No.~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
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05-18-2014, 11:01 AM #1184New Member
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Mhm, general question:
What would u answer is someone is asking: Why do you supplement all these things with that amount, do u have a medical deficiency on all of this?
How does it make sense, if you don't have a medical need on vits and minerals?
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05-18-2014, 11:57 AM #1185
your question is answered on this thread.
There are 3 stages of health states. Unhealthy, meaning you have a poor diet or medical condition.
Healthy, meaning your diet is good and keeps you healthy and within range.
Optimum, which is the state I look for where certain vitamins and minerals will take your body to an optimum level and utilize more of what you take.
You don't have to supplement anything. Food alone is good enough to keep you healthy. But food can never ever take you to optimum levels. Take your b12 serum to 4000+ and you'll note the difference. The healthy range of 300 to 1100 is not good enough for me.
Again, supplementing isn't for everyone.~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
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05-18-2014, 06:36 PM #1186
THIS THREAD IS NO LONGER SUPPORTED.
Thanks for all contributors and members that helped grow this thread. After over a year of support, I feel that all questions have been answered in great detail. If you read through the entire thread, you'll notice that the last 10 pages or so are repetitive. Same questions, same answers. There's only so many ways I can answer the same questions.
I hope you make great use out of the info in this thread and keep in mind, your questions are more than likely to be already answered in this thread. If you need my assistance, please start a new thread and get my attention, I will do my best to respond in a timely fashion.
Have a powerful day.
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05-19-2014, 01:37 PM #1187
I like all your post, Thanks
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05-20-2014, 10:08 PM #1188Member
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Long thread to find somebodys answers.
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10-08-2014, 04:26 PM #1189
I know this post isn't supported anymore but I'm hoping someone has a link to the image in the first post that spells out the amounts of each supplement. The article comes up but the image doesn't show up on my end and without the amounts I'm a little lost. Can anyone post the original image for me? Thanks.
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11-26-2014, 07:28 PM #1190New Member
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This may sound anecdotal but I read that even taking low dosages of NAC increases your chances of developing certain cancers by more than three fold.
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Does anyone have the link to the supplement chart image?? , the link is broken.
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05-16-2016, 10:20 AM #1193
hi my friend and what about using winstrol depot ? 1800 or 2400 mg ?
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How many gr of Vitamin C it's needed to prevent NAC oxidize?
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06-25-2017, 05:27 PM #1197Junior Member
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It's important what time of the day i take the NAC? I'm using a 17AA, and i'm taking 1200mg/day but the time of the day i dont know if i take when i wakeup or after traning, on empty stomach... what you guys do?
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07-13-2018, 04:19 PM #1198
Hello Austinite ... long long time my friend... hope all is going well with u.... excuse my question if it was answered before , I didn’t go through the whole thread (father of two now ) ... I see you suggest supplementing with nac on daily basis on ur thread (supplements for those who don’t like much supplements) while u suggest taking nac 3 days a week on this thread .. can u elaborate plz .? 3 days weeks or daily ? Much appreciated the answer in advance .. respect
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10-21-2018, 09:21 AM #1199
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10-21-2018, 01:22 PM #1200
Last time I used any supplement like this on a regiment it was twinlab amino fuel liquid. $50 for 16 oz.
It worked great. Actually added mass.
Now I just started to buy some again. Then I remembered that was 12 or 13 years ago. It probably had superdrol and m1t in it.
I was lucky I found that. No way I am sorting through all the shit supplements to find something worth anything. I will spend the extra $350 a month on food. Food is the supplement that always works.
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