Vascularity

[austinite]

Everyone is different. I see veins at 15% BF. Some people won't see veins even at 10 or 11.

[largerthannormal]

L-arganine and L- citrulline

can they be purchased at walmart or walgreens in vitamin section?

[largerthannormal]

I see them at 15% also especially in the leaner areas. shoulders / upper chest/ arms and so on.

Everyone is different. I see veins at 15% BF. Some people won't see veins even at 10 or 11.

[austinite]

I see them at 15% also especially in the leaner areas. shoulders / upper chest/ arms and so on.

right. I mean you won't see veins on your abdomen if your BF% is mostly compiled there, but you certainly can see it in leaner parts.

[Brazensol]

L-arganine and L- citrulline

can they be purchased at walmart or walgreens in vitamin section?

UPS is bringing mine today! Can't wait to try it out.

[human project]

right. I mean you won't see veins on your abdomen if your BF% is mostly compiled there, but you certainly can see it in leaner parts.

My body is just weird bc one of the first places I get veins is my stomach.... Well after for arms and calves of coarse

[austinite]

My body is just weird bc one of the first places I get veins is my stomach.... Well after for arms and calves of coarse

yeah everyone is different. I get them on my chest and shoulders before my forearms, where I really want them!

[largerthannormal]

must be nice.. im trying hard for that right now...

My body is just weird bc one of the first places I get veins is my stomach.... Well after for arms and calves of coarse

[largerthannormal]

I found a few L-ARGANINE L-CITRULLINE combo powders, I may give that a whirl. Do any of you run those combos or do you buy them all separate?

i just started l-arginine monday

[austinite]

I found a few L-ARGANINE L-CITRULLINE combo powders, I may give that a whirl. Do any of you run those combos or do you buy them all separate?

i just started l-arginine monday

I'm not a fan of combos because you cant really adjust the ratio. I prefer to supplement separately or mix myself.

[gbrice75]

OP, drop to around 10% bf and I bet you become more vascular...some don't see veins at 12% bf.

Agreed. I wasn't very vascular around 10% to be honest, with the exception of being VERY pumped in the gym. Just walking around though, I hardly had anything in my bi's showing like I see on a lot of guys (with higher bodyfat).

[kelkel]

yeah everyone is different. I get them on my chest and shoulders before my forearms, where I really want them!

Waaaaa....

Agreed. I wasn't very vascular around 10% to be honest, with the exception of being VERY pumped in the gym. Just walking around though, I hardly had anything in my bi's showing like I see on a lot of guys (with higher bodyfat).

Waaaa......#2

[austinite]

Waaaaa....





Waaaa......#2

lmao. Still waiting for that Fedex tracking number...

I need a Waaaambulance.

[gbrice75]

Waaaaa....

Waaaa......#2

Easy for a guy wearing a roadmap to say!

[Brazensol]

Any reason not to expect this vascularity to apply to the entire body? Including internal organs, brain, etc,,.

[Nicholas1]

Low bf% plus high muscle mass will have your veins popping in no time genetics is not relevant..

[austinite]

Low bf% plus high muscle mass will have your veins popping in no time genetics is not relevant..

Genetics absolutely 100% have a role.

[Armykid93]

Genetics absolutely 100% have a role.

I always thought genetics were the biggest factor in determining how vascular you are?

[RescuesPitbulls]

Genetics definitely have a huge role. I'm 13% bodyfat, maybe 14 & i have visual popped out veins in my neck, chest, biceps, triceps, forearms, abs & calves. My blood pressure is also naturally high, maybe this is a factor not sure.

[M302_Imola]

Genetics definitely have a huge role. I'm 13% bodyfat, maybe 14 & i have visual popped out veins in my neck, chest, biceps, triceps, forearms, abs & calves. My blood pressure is also naturally high, maybe this is a factor not sure.

Sick man! Love those upper chest road map veins...look sick when you have a pump!

[Brazensol]

Genetics definitely have a huge role. I'm 13% bodyfat, maybe 14 & i have visual popped out veins in my neck, chest, biceps, triceps, forearms, abs & calves. My blood pressure is also naturally high, maybe this is a factor not sure.

How high and do you take anything to control it? Pics look great btw!

[gearbox]

UPS is bringing mine today! Can't wait to try it out.

Do not expect to much from a few supplements. As said above its bf and genetics that play a role. Anyone under 10% will have some serious vascularity. And I mean a true under 10% not these jokers that said they stand on a scale and it said I was 7 blah blah....

[Brazensol]

Time will tell. I think the low dose cialis has already made a difference. I've been taking it several months now. Already seeing veins in my biceps, shoulders and of course forearms. My feet are also more vascular than 3 months ago. I've been 10-12% body fat before and never had much more than a slight biceps/forearm vascularity. I doubt I'm under 25% yet but might (big might) be 23-24%. Now it could be that the cialis along with potential genetics accounts for the change. I really don't know.

What I am trying to find out is if this vascularity increase goes all the way down to the smallest of blood vessels or if it just applies to the larger ones. It seems like it should effect all vessels of all sizes.

[RescuesPitbulls]

Sick man! Love those upper chest road map veins...look sick when you have a pump!

Hell yea bro, i love that feeling wearing an undershirt.

[RescuesPitbulls]

How high and do you take anything to control it? Pics look great btw!

I've had higher than average blood pressure since i was youngin', although i'm still pretty young lol I'm 22 years old. After years of diet changes my doctor came to the conclusion the higher than normal blood pressure is normal for me & there's no changing it. It's not damaging me, just slightly higher. I was never put on meds for it.

I'm a pretty high strung guy, always anxious & very short tempered so that could also be a factor.

I included a pic of my triceps which are also very vascular. This picture was taken after breakfast.


& PS, before questions arise
I have done 0 cycles of PHs or AAS. I am interested but not sure if i'm ready. I'm looking to enter an NPC show soon.

[Brazensol]

I've had higher than average blood pressure since i was youngin', although i'm still pretty young lol I'm 22 years old. After years of diet changes my doctor came to the conclusion the higher than normal blood pressure is normal for me & there's no changing it. It's not damaging me, just slightly higher. I was never put on meds for it.

I'm a pretty high strung guy, always anxious & very short tempered so that could also be a factor.

I included a pic of my triceps which are also very vascular. This picture was taken after breakfast.


& PS, before questions arise
I have done 0 cycles of PHs or AAS. I am interested but not sure if i'm ready. I'm looking to enter an NPC show soon.

Looks great! Careful with the anxiety. It'll take years off your life and life's to short as it is.

[RescuesPitbulls]

Looks great! Careful with the anxiety. It'll take years off your life and life's to short as it is.

lol yea i know man. I'm learning to not stress minor things.

[M302_Imola]

I've had higher than average blood pressure since i was youngin', although i'm still pretty young lol I'm 22 years old. After years of diet changes my doctor came to the conclusion the higher than normal blood pressure is normal for me & there's no changing it. It's not damaging me, just slightly higher. I was never put on meds for it.

I'm a pretty high strung guy, always anxious & very short tempered so that could also be a factor.

I included a pic of my triceps which are also very vascular. This picture was taken after breakfast.


& PS, before questions arise
I have done 0 cycles of PHs or AAS. I am interested but not sure if i'm ready. I'm looking to enter an NPC show soon.

Look great bro especially for no aas cycles under your belt (no homo)! Way to be smart and not cycle at an early age!

[Indymuscleguy]

As rusty said, Arginine and Citrulline are great. You could do 3 grams of Cit and 2 grams of Arg 30 minutes before lifting.

Anyone using cialis needs to make sure they don't have low blood pressure before taking ANY dose.

I've been doing the L-Arginine and Cialis protocol ... couldn't find Citruline...I am getting pumps that are very painful...in a good way! My forearms, biceps, and calves have veins popping out everywhere. My delts and chest are really shredded right now...but no vasularity there...yet!

[austinite]

I've been doing the L-Arginine and Cialis protocol ... couldn't find Citruline...I am getting pumps that are very painful...in a good way! My forearms, biceps, and calves have veins popping out everywhere. My delts and chest are really shredded right now...but no vasularity there...yet!

Awesome. Keep it up Champ.

[kelkel]

Genetics definitely have a huge role. I'm 13% bodyfat, maybe 14 & i have visual popped out veins in my neck, chest, biceps, triceps, forearms, abs & calves. My blood pressure is also naturally high, maybe this is a factor not sure.

Looks good RP!

[RescuesPitbulls]

Looks good RP!

Thanks man


Need all the compliments i can get to boost some confidence heading to my first show.

[basketballfan22]

I've had higher than average blood pressure since i was youngin', although i'm still pretty young lol I'm 22 years old. After years of diet changes my doctor came to the conclusion the higher than normal blood pressure is normal for me & there's no changing it. It's not damaging me, just slightly higher. I was never put on meds for it.

I'm a pretty high strung guy, always anxious & very short tempered so that could also be a factor.

I included a pic of my triceps which are also very vascular. This picture was taken after breakfast.


& PS, before questions arise
I have done 0 cycles of PHs or AAS. I am interested but not sure if i'm ready. I'm looking to enter an NPC show soon.

I don't want to call you out, but your profile states that you are 25. If you don't mind my asking, what is your height and weight?

[human project]

lol yea i know man. I'm learning to not stress minor things.

When you figure it out bub please pm me....

[human project]

This is after a tren mast cycle..... I wasn't on any supplements then although now I'm taking huge doses of tons of aminos and I'm barely vascular at all..... It's all about bf % really bub... When I'm over 12% you can't find a vein on me...... Just my 2cents

[kelkel]

^^^^ Nice!

[Brazensol]

This is after a tren mast cycle..... I wasn't on any supplements then although now I'm taking huge doses of tons of aminos and I'm barely vascular at all..... It's all about bf % really bub... When I'm over 12% you can't find a vein on me...... Just my 2cents

What bf% you at in those pics. Very impressive!

[human project]

What bf% you at in those pics. Very impressive!

I don't know exactly... Probably between 5-6 I was probably between 4-5 for my contest which was way too lean to say the least.... I probably shouldn't of come down this low for the show and saved some size at the cost of a little vascularity..... Do burn up all your muscle trying to burn bf in hopes of seeing a little vascularity.... I've done it many times and each time promise to never do it again.... I'm getting better but still far from having it down.... I was 230ish in those pics but I'm under 12% bf with very little vascularity around 260-270....

[BluPhin]

This is after a tren mast cycle..... I wasn't on any supplements then although now I'm taking huge doses of tons of aminos and I'm barely vascular at all..... It's all about bf % really bub... When I'm over 12% you can't find a vein on me...... Just my 2cents

The vascularity of your delt/bicep is sick. That's what I would like to accomplish. What ~bf% was this at?

My bad...question already answered

[austinite]

Low body certainly has it's place. Let's not discount genetics and your NO levels. High NO levels WILL help even at higher body fat.

Not everyone will be able to get under 10 % and there are things you could do to achieve vascularity at higher BF. Restricting advice to lower BF is becoming more bro-science than anything. Like I said, BF% should be everyone's focus, but don't let that stop you if you can't reach 10%.

Take my old business partner who has never seen a gym, I tested his NO levels and he is higher than me. This guy is at 19.1 % BF, we both did bodpod assessments the same day. He puts some BB's to shame with his veins.