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10-09-2005, 08:24 PM #1Associate Member
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How do you know youre overtraining exactly!
OK I ve read lots of literature and heard so many different opinions, so whats yours? First off, working out on test or off test will be 2 different cases, so lets stick with (on)Test cycle.
Now some say work 1 body part a seesion for an hour TOPS!
--after an hour I'm just getting pumped up
If you work 2 body parts a session, should you be there 2 hrs.???
When and how does this whole overtraining thing come in??
I just need to be clearified, with cortisol levels too high, etc.ect.
It drives me crazy.
Now Bill Pearl, Arnold, and Flex and other magazines say:to get bigger you need to increase the intensity::
1.more sets
2.more reps
3more weight or
4.less time between sets........ok............
Now if you should ABSOLUTLY NOT go over 8 sets for bis or tris and youve been lifting for 20 years and kept it at 8 sets ONLY, then you should be doing 3 sets of 100 lb. tricep kickbacks with no rest before moving on to your measly 5 other sets right? Then thats it.Triceps are done?I dont get it.
To sum it up does overtraining mean??.....
a)you can do 8 reps of 60 lb. dumbell press for a session, then can only do it for 5 reps the next session?
b)or...feel exhausted all day and lift when you feel exhausted, but can still put up your weight? Thanks for any feedback
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10-10-2005, 06:10 AM #2Associate Member
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Anybody ???????????I dont feel like I overtrain, but sometimes people say I overtrain wayyyyyyyyyy to much.When you are overtrained, do you feel fine but just cant lift as much or does it mean you feel unbeilevably exhausted after a workout and your muscles wont grow??????Please
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10-10-2005, 07:13 AM #3Originally Posted by ScottyShotty
1 not sleeping properly, 8 hours is good,
2 you training Intensely, but you nutritional protocol in not in order,
3 you suffer with bad D.O.M.S for days at a time, but still no visible muscle growth,
4 you feel lethargic and don’t look forward to training,
5 lack of hypertrophy,
6 training to long!! people these days don’t seem to no when to stop,
7 hitting biceps and triceps with 20sets that will do it…..
There are many more that I’m sure other people will mention...Last edited by S.P.G; 10-10-2005 at 09:08 AM.
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10-10-2005, 07:22 AM #4Originally Posted by ScottyShotty
Last edited by S.P.G; 10-10-2005 at 08:04 AM.
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10-10-2005, 08:56 AM #5Associate Member
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Thanks alot spg! That helps alot. So as long as you can do AT LEAST the same reps and weight for a particular exercise, then that means you are NOT overtraining right?Period.
And if you were on a test cycle, either you should move up 1 or more reps or move up in weight a little, for a particular exercise every session if your not overtrained?
Does this sound like a good rule of thumb?
Thanks again for the feedback
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10-10-2005, 09:15 AM #6Originally Posted by ScottyShotty
ps....top ava.. bro.....Last edited by S.P.G; 10-10-2005 at 09:21 AM.
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10-10-2005, 09:18 AM #7
Here is my own little rule of thumb. And i am still natural by the way. IF i am not making progress every single workout, then i am not overtraining. I i have 2 workouts in a row where i see no progress, then its time to take a step back for a week or 2
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10-10-2005, 09:25 AM #8Originally Posted by IronReload04
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10-10-2005, 12:36 PM #9Associate Member
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ok thanks alot guys.
I was just wondering because about 5 weeks ago I would naturally spend 2 1/2 to 3 hrs. a session and got flamed for it bad. (Now I'm only 1 to 1 1/2). But I was still going up in weight and reps. Whatever, I'll stick to this:
No more than 16 sets for large muscle groups and 12 sets for small
No more than an hour and a half Tops in the gym
And if two sessions go by with no increase in weight, then cut some sets for a week or two.
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10-10-2005, 02:54 PM #10Originally Posted by S.P.G
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10-10-2005, 02:57 PM #11Originally Posted by ScottyShotty
what used to hold me back was too many sets and not enough food.
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10-12-2005, 04:42 PM #12
I have seen too many guys in the gym when I get there and still working out when I leave.....they always look the same!!!!!!!!! I myself have found that more than 3 days a week on my schedule is more than sufficent and I do alternate the intensity at different workouts. It is not necessary to push to failure every workout. Enjoy a higher rep workout to about 80 percent.....it ain't gonna kill ya.....just an opinion.
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10-12-2005, 08:36 PM #13Associate Member
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