overtraining becomes easier when u are stronger?

**Akrus423** · 03-12-2006, 05:49 PM

I read somewhere, that the stronger u are, the less training you are suppose to be doing. It said that because when you are really strong, in each set you do, destroys more muscle than a person with weak muscles, in which, it take longer to rebuild, thus if you did do that many sets when u were benching 200that wouldn't be over-training, but when ur benching 400, it would be overtraining.
So is this true?

**bmg** · 03-12-2006, 06:01 PM

a more advanced trainee will be able to squeeze out a harder contraction with more intensity and focus. this additional intensity could cause overtraining. ...in reality though the whole situation is very complex and difficult to answer with a simple yes/no.

**Akrus423** · 03-12-2006, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by bmg

a more advanced trainee will be able to squeeze out a harder contraction with more intensity and focus. this additional intensity could cause overtraining. ...in reality though the whole situation is very complex and difficult to answer with a simple yes/no.

well i'd think it would take longer, simply because recover doesn't speed up and muscles become larger. But if there is something i don't know then what is it?

**bmg** · 03-12-2006, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Akrus423

well i'd think it would take longer, simply because recover doesn't speed up and muscles become larger. But if there is something i don't know then what is it?

the body's ability to recover does improve to a significant degree. .... all other factors being equal your work load should decrease a little as you develop.

**Akrus423** · 03-12-2006, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by bmg

the body's ability to recover does improve to a significant degree. .... all other factors being equal your work load should decrease a little as you develop.

so your still suppose to be training a body-part only once a week instead of twice a week when u just start training?

**bmg** · 03-12-2006, 07:41 PM

i would recommend whole body workouts three times a week for the first three - six months of weight training. after that i would go to a three on, one/two off and repeat split for the next year.

**ward065** · 03-12-2006, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by Akrus423

I read somewhere, that the stronger u are, the less training you are suppose to be doing. It said that because when you are really strong, in each set you do, destroys more muscle than a person with weak muscles, in which, it take longer to rebuild, thus if you did do that many sets when u were benching 200that wouldn't be over-training, but when ur benching 400, it would be overtraining.
So is this true?

yes it is true to an extent, i train every body-part every 8-9 days now, and, since early 2005 i have added about 140lbs to my bench press for reps. That means very ample recovery till i blast the targeted bodypart again, and boy do i blast it to hell!

**Akrus423** · 03-12-2006, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by bmg

i would recommend whole body workouts three times a week for the first three - six months of weight training. after that i would go to a three on, one/two off and repeat split for the next year.

whole body u mean training each body part 3 times a week, Isn't that over-training?

**Akrus423** · 03-12-2006, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Akrus423

whole body u mean training each body part 3 times a week, Isn't that over-training?

would u do that ward if u just started training?

**ward065** · 03-12-2006, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Akrus423

would u do that ward if u just started training?

Personally i do not like full body workout routines, because most of the time youre only doing 1 exercise per bodypart (e.g. 1 for chest, 1 for back, 1 for quads etc) read one of the topics up top that pinnacle posted and it explains it. I'm not saying it does not work, i'm saying i don't think it would work for me.

The reason being I find when i get a very good pump in the area i am training that day, i get a beter workout all-around. I do not feel i would get as good of a pump doing just 1 exercise per bodypart and then training like 5-6 bodyparts that workout. And the muscle is sore, meaning i worked it well.

**Akrus423** · 03-12-2006, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by ward065

Personally i do not like full body workout routines, because most of the time youre only doing 1 exercise per bodypart (e.g. 1 for chest, 1 for back, 1 for quads etc) read one of the topics up top that pinnacle posted and it explains it. I'm not saying it does not work, i'm saying i don't think it would work for me.

The reason being I find when i get a very good pump in the area i am training that day, i get a beter workout all-around. I do not feel i would get as good of a pump doing just 1 exercise per bodypart and then training like 5-6 bodyparts that workout. And the muscle is sore, meaning i worked it well.

what were the cycles and results and gains during the cycles?