Thread: chest w/o. too much?
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04-11-2006, 09:30 AM #1
chest w/o. too much?
ive been told its to much but i felt fine and feel fine now.
5sets of flat bench (smith machine)
4sets 1 armed dumbbell press (flat bench)
close armed chest press machine thing (4sets)
fly machine , 4sets
then 4sets on the wires, pressing.
i also did weighted dips and pullups , 5sets on each
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04-11-2006, 09:36 AM #2
If you have high intensity then you would not be able to finish that workout IMO without cramping etc... Seems like you're either lacking training intensity, not enough worksets, or you are just simply overtraining.
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04-11-2006, 09:40 AM #3
Why pullups they are for lats? You are also doing 26 sets for chest that is a lot. I do nine and my chest is sore for days later. Just do three sets each on incline flat and a fly. All you really need if you do it right. I used to think more is better but it ain't.
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04-11-2006, 10:00 AM #4
Originally Posted by MartyMcFly
i didnt think that session was hard. just right, plus wen i go with my other mate warren hes on steroids , we do alot more then that
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04-11-2006, 10:01 AM #5
u do nine sets too, how long you at the gym? 15 min
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04-11-2006, 10:55 AM #6
9 sets here, I'm there for 1hr - 1hr 15mins. 15mins?
Also, your buddy that is using gear doesn't seem to know how to train if he's doing 2hr chest workouts with over 15sets.-B D
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04-11-2006, 10:59 AM #7
well hes huge and beches 140kg flat bench. and shoulder presses 120kg for fun so he must be doin something right at the gym
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04-11-2006, 11:07 AM #8
15 sets not enough 26 to much stay in the middle an up ur weight bro.how many reps per set?
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04-11-2006, 11:21 AM #9
Originally Posted by spencer
a pro might use that much in a workout,if you hit it hard enough with good form theres no need for that amount at all!
it may work for you or your mate but to me its like floggin a dead horse once its dead its dead no need to keep wacking it,same goes for your chest.
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04-11-2006, 11:23 AM #10
Originally Posted by pumpd4lif
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04-11-2006, 11:25 AM #11
already told you mate that's way to much
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04-11-2006, 11:27 AM #12
Originally Posted by helium3
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04-11-2006, 11:28 AM #13
Originally Posted by stocky121
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04-11-2006, 11:33 AM #14
Yes it is too much, everyone is telling you that and your getting mad at them like they dont know what they are talking about. If your going to ask for help at least be appreciative of it.
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04-11-2006, 11:36 AM #15
Originally Posted by spencer
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04-11-2006, 11:38 AM #16
Originally Posted by PurplePatriot
Last edited by spencer; 04-11-2006 at 11:42 AM.
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04-11-2006, 11:44 AM #17
Heres my suggestion, if you want to become bigger and strong faster:
Get rid of the 1 armed presses and cables machine at least.
Knock all your sets down to about 6-8reps max. If you are doing your set and you have enough energy in your body to do 9 reps then you do not have nearly enough weight tacked on. If you have to push every vein in your body to the verge of rupture to put up rep number 7 and still only make it half way up... Then you have the right amount of weight on.
If you can do any disp after sets of *wide grip bench, chest presses, and flys done like that then i dont think you had enough weight on.
Just my two cents.
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04-11-2006, 11:46 AM #18
Originally Posted by spencer
I dont care if you are ronnie coleman or my 8 year old neice. To get BIG you have to lift BIG. Steroids dont change any of that.
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04-11-2006, 11:49 AM #19
Originally Posted by PurplePatriot
i dont want to get bigger. just keepn up with my body shape.
my main gaol is keeping fit and just decided to chest today.
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04-11-2006, 11:50 AM #20
Originally Posted by PurplePatriot
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04-11-2006, 11:53 AM #21
if steroids dont change that why take them then
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04-11-2006, 11:57 AM #22
Originally Posted by PurplePatriot
have you ever done 1arm dumbell press. tell u wat try then tell me what u think
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04-11-2006, 12:00 PM #23
Originally Posted by spencer
No I do tri's also. Around 9 or 10 sets. With a 3 min rest in between sets that is 27 min per muscle so about an hour total.
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04-11-2006, 12:01 PM #24
Originally Posted by spencer
Your muscles grow because they are being torn and rebuilt while you rest. They only tear when you are giving those weights everything you have, so obviously the less weight you lift the less effective this would be. Its all about WEIGHT not quantity.
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04-11-2006, 12:03 PM #25
Originally Posted by spencer
The number of workouts you do has nothing to do with muscle growth.
understand that.
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04-11-2006, 12:04 PM #26
Originally Posted by MartyMcFly
Your muscles grow because they are being torn and rebuilt while you rest. They only tear when you are giving those weights everything you have, so obviously the less weight you lift the less effective this would be. Its all about WEIGHT not quantity..
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04-11-2006, 12:06 PM #27
Originally Posted by spencer
ive been told its to much but i felt fine and feel fine now.
5sets of flat bench (smith machine)
start on 70kg,80kg,85kg,90kg,95kg 10reps
4sets 1 armed dumbbell press (flat bench)
30kg 10reps 4sets e/arm
close armed chest press machine thing (4sets)
10reps 85kg,90,95,100kg
fly machine , 4sets
10reps on 5o,60,70,75
then 4sets on the wires, pressing.
this was just a burn out
If you are doing 10 reps on your last set what is the point of all the build up just do 95 kg 10 times for all sets, it would probably do more. Why no incline or decline. Need to hit it at different angles. There should be no need for a burnout, if you hit chest right you shouldn't have anything left to burnout.
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04-11-2006, 12:13 PM #28
Originally Posted by MartyMcFly
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04-11-2006, 12:14 PM #29
Originally Posted by PurplePatriot
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04-11-2006, 12:27 PM #30
ok lets try another approach,what would be your average leg workout?
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04-11-2006, 12:36 PM #31
Originally Posted by spencer
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04-11-2006, 12:39 PM #32
Originally Posted by spencer
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04-11-2006, 12:48 PM #33
Originally Posted by helium3
your legs have 2-3 times more muscle than your chest so if you train around 20 sets for your chest you must do 40-50 sets for your legs!!does that sound right,no it doesnt.
you are doing way way way too much which tells me
1.you dont know how to train properly
2.you are going very light
3.you are taking the piss.
keep listening to your mate you cant go wrong
i didnt wanna come across like that but looking at your recent responses you have no clue at all mate.
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04-11-2006, 12:50 PM #34
Originally Posted by helium3
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04-11-2006, 12:56 PM #35
Originally Posted by spencer
no flame mate really just have a look at some of the guys workouts on here youll see what i mean,but if you are happy with it then keep doin it just throwin my 2 cents in.
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04-11-2006, 12:58 PM #36
Originally Posted by helium3
i train legs not that often. i play football (soccer)wed night, thurs nite saturday and sunday. boxing mon and friday. theres my leg w/o basically. ido squats and leg curls only, dont say thats shit cause its fine for me that.
as i say my main goal is gettin to my best fitness as im trying out for the parachute regement, i cant take steroids because you'll get ****ed off straight away while on selection training.
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04-11-2006, 01:00 PM #37
Originally Posted by helium3
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04-11-2006, 03:04 PM #38
i agree with everyone...i think that is too much
i do 10 sets for chest and i constantly see gains
140 kg isnt all that much, i can do that and im natural
no flame against your buddy at all
how fast do you see gains with that current workout? with my 10 set w/o i put 5 lbs on all my sets for my chest every two weeks
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04-11-2006, 03:13 PM #39
obviosly im training wrong, i thought it was fine but shit im well off.
how much do u weigh if ur benching 140. im 13st bang on now, 82kg.
i dont have a planned w/o i.e adding weight each time. i just go gym and do either chest or shoulders and back and i dont keep track of wat i did, do and gonna do with adding weight. as for gains a lad i know andy asked me if i was on gear today so i cant be too bad.
i started this thread wen i got back from gym so it was fresh in my mind
how would u change my w/o for chest
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04-11-2006, 03:19 PM #40
A, It is too much. But maybe not for you because you are probably lifting like a pussy, which in turn allows you to do 25 sets for chest and not over-train.
B, you're a douchebag. If you don't want the advise then why the hell did you even post this?
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