who has/currently uses HIT or DOGGCRAPP training?

**Haro3** · 01-19-2007, 04:56 PM

I'm wanting to change my routine and i've heard alot of interesting things about HIT and Doggcrapp training. my question is for those who have done it/do it do you like it? results? would u recommend it while natural or only while "on" since ur such higher intensity...etc..?

**timtim** · 01-19-2007, 05:57 PM

the stretching works, thats for sure. as for the routine, try it and see. i get injured whenever i push the limits required. so i dont do it anymore, just the stretching.

**Haro3** · 01-19-2007, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by timtim

the stretching works, thats for sure. as for the routine, try it and see. i get injured whenever i push the limits required. so i dont do it anymore, just the stretching.

the stretching works as in..? promotes better growth or what? cuz the stuff i've been readin says its supposed to be very explosive growth.

**shortie** · 01-25-2007, 11:20 AM

Haro, I have been hitting the DC method now for only 6 weeks-absolutely love it, I can't see me training any other way from here on out. First week was tough to make myself do, but it really does the for me, most gains I can recall in a "natuaral" state. Stretching works both to help prevent injury and to stretch fascia-

The muscle is already nice and warm from the working sets, so this is the most beneficial time to stretch, not only does it stretch the Fascia, but aids in recouperation and helps to bring shape to the muscle. In-Human

**Columbus** · 01-25-2007, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by shortie

Haro, I have been hitting the DC method now for only 6 weeks-absolutely love it, I can't see me training any other way from here on out. First week was tough to make myself do, but it really does the for me, most gains I can recall in a "natuaral" state. Stretching works both to help prevent injury and to stretch fascia-

do you need a partner for DC?

Also, what would a lg routine look like? Tats one I cant find....

**IBdmfkr** · 01-25-2007, 11:40 AM

Done both, prefer HIT by far. DC is good but different.
Workout partner is a must, at the very least you'll need a spot for each set. But that goes with any routine IMO if you want to go to failure.

**SMCengineer** · 01-25-2007, 12:00 PM

I'm researching DC training right now and I'll probably be starting a new routine soon. I'll probably post up my log here (an important aspect of DC training). As a side note, I'll be starting DC training while I'm still natural, but I'll be starting a cycle when I find out how DC training affects my growth.

**IBdmfkr** · 01-25-2007, 12:10 PM

Not to take anything away from Dante, but do realize all DC training is, is a spinoff of HIT training personalized by DC himself. My best advice (and what I've done) is to read through all forms of HIT (mentzer's/DC/Ironman/Dorian's/etc), try each one and then over time incorporate what has worked from each into your own style. Since doing this I've made the best gains in my life and I spend half the time in the gym.

**Haro3** · 01-25-2007, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by I**mfkr

Not to take anything away from Dante, but do realize all DC training is, is a spinoff of HIT training personalized by DC himself. My best advice (and what I've done) is to read through all forms of HIT (mentzer's/DC/Ironman/Dorian's/etc), try each one and then over time incorporate what has worked from each into your own style. Since doing this I've made the best gains in my life and I spend half the time in the gym.

sweet advice i**. i know i've talked to you about it and im going to research it pretty thorough. my problem is the workout partner. finding one equally as dedicated etc so we'll see what happens

**Columbus** · 01-25-2007, 12:47 PM

my problem is the workout partner. finding one equally as dedicated

**shortie** · 01-26-2007, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by Columbus

do you need a partner for DC?

Also, what would a lg routine look like? Tats one I cant find....

You will find a lot of DC users utilize machines in their workouts to compensate for not having a partner, so long as you use compound movements/maximal effort you have a winner. And to be honest, I have a partner and in this style he has been somewhat of a hinderance is certain situations so far as timing. As for workout layouts, I am hardly qualified to give you one, but here is a couple of very informative websites regarding DC training.

www.intensemuscle.com
http://dc-training.blogspot.com

First week sucked, I felt I was not getting a pump, didn't feel at all like I was even working out. But I promised myself I would give it a few weeks, and not try to change it, once I learned to really lay it all on the table and kick my ass every set I was sold. Plus, like IB said, I spend half the time in the gym I used to, and still get my work in.

**BITTAPART2** · 01-26-2007, 09:59 AM

ive used DC (IMO a modified form of HIT) with good success, if you go onto intense-muscle you will constantly be told you arent doing it right but thats another story. I have learned for me It is just all about intensity in the gym, go in beat the livingshit out of the weights progressivly increase the weights week by week and try to guage were you stand w/ overtraining and your good. just remember it emphasizes what we all should be doing and that is putting 110% into all our endevours wether it be training or life in general.

**marcus300** · 01-26-2007, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by I**mfkr

Not to take anything away from Dante, but do realize all DC training is, is a spinoff of HIT training personalized by DC himself. My best advice (and what I've done) is to read through all forms of HIT (mentzer's/DC/Ironman/Dorian's/etc), try each one and then over time incorporate what has worked from each into your own style. Since doing this I've made the best gains in my life and I spend half the time in the gym.

Agree with the above, HIT is very good but try it and then put your own style to it,

**ah2006** · 02-08-2008, 03:53 PM

Been using DC training for 2-3 months now. At first it was very tough to get used to (one big set, the extreme stretching, working out only 3 days a week), but i gave it some time and have never been as strong as i am now. i havent gained that much overall weight, but thats due to my diet. as for as the training goes, i am pushing the most weight ive ever pushed. i love it. cuttin w/o times in half is also a good thing!

**Machdiesel** · 02-08-2008, 05:00 PM

DC training will prob be overtraining for most people, but the theory behind it it spot on(imo). I have used to IronMan HIT training program which is alittle more practical for the average person, and have seen AMAZING strength and size gains. I will never train one body part once a day. once a week EVER again!!

**Columbus** · 02-09-2008, 11:29 AM

why is it overtraining?? Explain the basic layout....

**Undecided09** · 02-09-2008, 03:14 PM

Is there a sticky or thread on this site where HIT and DC are explained in full?

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**TR'05** · 02-09-2008, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by Undecided09

Is there a sticky or thread on this site where HIT and DC are explained in full?

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It's in the "Training Techniques" sticky, bro.

I would check out intensemuscle.com- Dante's board- as it has a more thorough collection of information, training logs, stickies, etc.