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    A little help for new routine on upcoming cycle.

    Heres the deal guys I'll try to keep it short and sweet with a little background of myself maybe you can approve of this or lead me in the right direction.

    On monday I start my Epistane cycle possibly bridged with Superdrol
    with "Black Ice" as my ECA for my cut into the summer.

    SD weeks 1-3 20mg
    Epistane Weeks 3-6 30mg
    Eca 25mg before a.m cardio/25mg during lift.

    Age: 19
    Height: 5'10 1/2
    Bodyweight: 198
    Bodyfat: 15-17% (Top 2 abs visible with fat stores predominately from lower chest, lower abdoman region and lower back.)

    -Goal over the next 6-8 weeks is to keep as much muscle mass as possible while on this, perhaps maybe gain some while losing as much fat as I can.

    - The goal is clear here. Lets just say im carrying 35 pounds of fat which would be 17.5 percent that means im carrying lets just say roughly 160 pounds of LBM Muscle. The goal is do get to 10 percent at a given weight....lets say 185 pounds. If I lose 20 pounds of fat during my cutting cycle and gain 5 pounds of muscle I would be at a weight of 185 pounds with 15 pounds of fat....leading me to

    Age:19
    Bodyweight:185
    Bodyfat: 10% (36 existing pounds of fat - 20 pounds lost) Remember this is roughly.

    I know routines dont really make or break you when it comes to cutting but coupled with the upcoming cycle I want to maximize fat loss and maybe perhaps muscle gain. This is what I propose:

    Pushups to warm-up
    Incline Bench 12x10x8x6x5 - This will be switched every week with flat.
    (Flat Bench)

    Superset:
    Dumbell Incline press - 2 setsx10
    Incline Flyes - 2 setsx10

    Superset:
    Bench Press - 2 setsx10
    Flat Flyes - 2 setsx10

    Peck Deck (triple drop set)

    Tuesday (leg circuit):

    Barbell Squat - 12x10x8x6x5

    Superset:
    Leg Extensions - 2-3 setsx10
    Leg Press - 2-3 setsx10
    Lunges with DB - 2-3 setsx8

    Superset:
    Leg Curls - 2-3 setsx10
    Stiff Leg Deadlifts - 2-3 setsx10

    Wednesday (Arms):

    Superset:
    Barbell Curls - 3 sets
    Close Grip Bench Press - 3 sets

    Superset:
    DB Curls - 3 sets
    Hammer Curls - 3 sets

    Superset:
    Narrow EZ Bar Curls - 2 sets
    Overhead EZ bar Extensions - 2 sets

    Superset:
    Rope Pushdowns - 2 sets
    Overhead Rope Extensions - 2 sets
    Rope curls - 2 sets

    Thursday: Shoulders,Traps, Chest

    Shoulder press: 12x10x8x6x5 (Alternating with Smith Military every week)

    Superset:
    Lateral Raises - 3 setsx10
    Upright Rows - 3 sets x10

    Superset:
    Bent over raises - 2 setsx10
    Front cable raises - 2 sets x10

    Superset:
    Dumbell Shrugsx10 2 sets
    Flat Bench Smithx10 2 sets

    Superset:
    Barbell Shrugsx10 2 sets
    Decline Benchx10 2 sets

    Friday (Back):

    Pullups (30 reps) Even if you can only do 2 at a time, you must do 15 sets. Rest just long enough until you can go again

    Superset:
    Bent Over Barbell Rows - 2 sets
    Bent Over Dumbell Rows - 2 sets

    Superset:
    Narrow Grip Pulldowns - 2 sets
    (Wide)T-Bar rows - 2 sets

    Superset:
    (Close) T-Bar Rows - 2 sets
    Close grip Cable Rows - 2 sets

    Superset:
    Dumbell Pullovers - 2 sets
    Stiff Arm Pulldown - 2 sets

    - I know this sounds like overtraining....But I think with the compounds my body can handle it.
    - If anybody has any ideas throw them at me I'm all ears.

    Cardio:
    A.M Elliptical or Incline Walking 45 minutes 4-6 days a week.
    PWO cardio for 20 - 30 minutes.

    Someone used this as apart of their cut and had GREAT results. Maybe I can do it a diffent way, that I dont know which is why im asking for help.

    These are some current lifts which can possibly give you a better picture to where I am and help me devise something.

    Current Varios Lifts:

    Flat bench Barbell
    195x12
    205x10
    215x8
    225x6-8 (10 fresh) (Which leads me to believe I should start at a 10 rep lift and work my way down...but remember I want to burn fat so the extra reps are beneficial to my caloric expenditure)
    245x3-6
    275x1

    Deadlift
    225x12
    255x10
    275x8
    315x6
    365x3
    405x1 (Achieved a few weeks ago...I thought I was going to shit out a vertebrate in the process )

    Squat - unfortunately not ass down due to back but I get parallel
    225x12
    245x10
    255x8
    275x6
    295x4-6
    315x1-3

    Dumbell Press (shoulders)
    70x12
    75x10
    80x8
    85x6

    Incline Dumbell press(Chest)
    75x12
    80x10
    85x8
    90x6-8
    95x4-6

    This is what my diet will look like - Remember plan here is to drop as much fat as possible and become as schredded as I can be over these 6-8 weeks. Gaining huge amounts of muscle is not the goal so keep that in mind.
    Diet:

    First 4 weeks I will be consuming:
    280 Protein
    120 Carbohydrates (30 breakfast, 30 pre-wo, 60 pwo)
    45 Fat(Only from Fish,Flax,Salmon)

    Last 4 weeks I will be consuming:
    320 Protein
    80 carbs (30 pre-wo, 50 pwo)
    45 fat


    Meal 1: 8:30am
    10 egg whites
    1/2 cup of oats

    Meal 2:12:30pm
    1 can of tuna
    1tsp light mayo
    Veggies
    9 fish/flax/salmon (3 of each)

    Meal 3:4:00pm
    6 egg whites
    1/2 can of tuna
    9 fish/flax/salmon
    Veggies

    Meal 4:7:30pm
    1/2 cup of oats
    1 can of tuna or 1 1/2 scoops of whey

    LIFT

    Meal 5: 10:00pm
    3 scoops of cytogainer

    Meal 6: 11:00pm
    1/2 can of tuna
    1/4 cup of No Salt CC
    1 tbsp of Natural PB
    9 fish/flax/salmon

    -It's a total of 2,000 calories. I figure it will be closer to 2,200-2,300 becuase of mis-measuring and veggies that I dont include.
    -I know alot of you guys will say it's low but this has been pretty much my current diet for the past few months and I know my body and even with this lack consistency and the occasional booze and cheat meal I still managed to not lose a pound and at times gain weight.

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    well theres nothing short about your post......or sweet lol..j/k

    well atleast you have a plan.....

    but here is some advice......at 19 you DON'T need any of that hormone crap....you have enough going around your body at that age to build great amounts of muscle......and quit drinking ..theres my advice......

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    Dont drink very often maybe once a month tops...my body doesnt have what it needs to build as much muscle as the usual 19 year old as im on TRT therapy at a mere 200mg every other week which barel gets me to 500 if im luckky.....but how does it sound?

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    bump...any help ?

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    Any input from anybody....anything...

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    1) i don't think your workout routine* is optimal

    2) your diet looks good

    3) make sure you do your cardio bitch

    *405 my ass haha

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    you kno what im gonna say corey...BAD BAD BAD taking 2 otc roids at da same time


    but newayz what do u have planned 4 pct?? and where r yer support supps mister?? and NO BOOZING WHAT SO EVER during this cycle or post cycle
    Another thing b careful w/ the ephedrine b4 a workout...try maybe a half tab...a whole tab makes me feel like poo poo

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    Supporting supps:
    FF niacin
    Saw Palmetoo(Someone told me it lowers DHT for cycle or something)
    Hawthrone Berry
    Anabolic Xtreme Perfect Cycle

    PCT:
    None - since im on TRT 200mgs eveyr 2 weeks


    405 I did it for one, what workout routine would you suggest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoreyTampa09
    Supporting supps:
    FF niacin
    Saw Palmetoo(Someone told me it lowers DHT for cycle or something)
    Hawthrone Berry
    Anabolic Xtreme Perfect Cycle

    PCT:
    None - since im on TRT 200mgs eveyr 2 weeks



    405 I did it for one, what workout routine would you suggest?
    goddamit i keep forgettin yer on hrt

    if lethargy becomes a problem...ester vitamin C should help ya out...start out at 6g/day...taking 1g, 1hr preworkout, and 1g immed. pwo...then split the rest up evenly thruout the day...if 6 doesnt do the trick bump up to 8g

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    Im really concerned with my actual method of lifting....REMEMBER KEY GOAL IS TO LOSE ALL BODYFAT...extra muscle is secondary

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    So should I do this routine or a typical 12x10x8x6 normal sets and excervises in a 5 day split?

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    Well here is my log as i started yesterday

    Monday: Chest

    Flat Barbell - 185x12 205x10 225x6 225x6 235x4 *1 assisted
    Incline Dumbell - 80x8 80x8 80x8 80x8

    Decline Barbell**175x12 175x10 175x10
    Supersetted**
    Decline Flyes""30x12 30x10 35x8

    20 min pwo cardio

    Diet:
    8:00am - 10 egg white omelette 6mgs flax/fish
    12:00pm - 10 egg whites, 4 oz turkey, veggies 6 flax/fish
    6:00pm - 2 oz beef, 4 oz chicken, veggies, 1/2 cup of oats
    9:30pm - 3 1/2 scoops cyto gainer 1/2 banana
    11:00pm - protein bar, almonds, 6mgsfish/flax

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    Think im doing too little, too much ....FEEDBACK FROM SOME EXPERTS DAMN IT!

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    Tuesday

    Leg Press

    270x15
    360x12
    450x10
    540x8
    630x5

    Squat ASS DOWN
    225x8
    225x8
    225x8
    225x8

    Standing calf on smith
    180x12
    180x12
    200x10
    200x10

    Ham curl supersetted with leg extension

    140x10/185x10
    140x10/185x10
    140x10/185x10

    Diet
    2:00pm - 10 whites, 2 oz turkey, veggies
    5:30pm - 8 whites, 4 oz turkey, 2 oz chicken, veggies
    8:00pm - 1/2 oats 6 oz turkey
    11:00pm - 3 1/2 scoops cytogainer
    1:00pm - salad, 3oz chicken, 1 scoop whey

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    way to keep up with your journal

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